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Old 10-06-2009, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is 38 super cheaper than 45 ACP?

I've seen a few of these, I love 1911s, I've never bought or fired one in anything but God's Caliber...but with prices the way they are, I might consider it.

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Old 10-06-2009, 06:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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not trying to snub the question. But that was just funny.

Why would you want a 1911 in anything but .45?

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not trying to snub the question. But that was just funny.

Why would you want a 1911 in anything but .45?


I could say .22 or 9mm, but that is a moot point.
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not trying to snub the question. But that was just funny.

Why would you want a 1911 in anything but .45?
I want one in 9mm, just because of the ammo cost. Is it cheaper to reload .45, than to buy 9mm from walmart?
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I can see that for a second 1911. Guess I'm still dreaming of my first.
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Wouldn't mind an officer's model in a smaller caliber, for when the wife gets her CCW. I'll probably just end up getting her a revolver.
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I agree, I love my 45ACP 1911 and wouldn't dream of another caliber coming close in comparison. It's purely an ammo cost thing.
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I want one in 9mm, just because of the ammo cost. Is it cheaper to reload .45, than to buy 9mm from walmart?
Yes, if you load enough of it.
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Colt makes (maybe made) 1911a1s in 9mm, 38 super and even 9x23 win not just 45acp.
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Old 10-07-2009, 06:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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.38 stupid is typically cheaper to reload than .45 ACP since the bullets are less expensive.

It is a pretty neat round, and chases on the heels of the .357 magnum power wise.
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not trying to snub the question. But that was just funny.

Why would you want a 1911 in anything but .45?
Yup, a 1911 in 9mm just seems blashpemous. The only thing acceptable IMO is when Kimber did a limited run in 9mm and 10mm. IIRC .45 ACP is like 11.25mm


A .22 trainer is cool though, cuz you can't mess with a .22.
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I'm guessing you guys have never shot a 9mm 1911, or any other caliber 1911 for that matter.

Sure I love my .45, but other calibers in the 1911 frame can be slicker than snot on a glass doorknob. The weight of a 1911 with a 9mm makes recoil almost .22 like, talk about fast follow up shots, damn.
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.38 is definately cheaper and for the naysayers/nostalgia buffs I was looking at the same thing in 9mm for the wife but it was a tad bulky for her hands. A disappointment given it fit my ham hands just fine...

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Screw .38 super. Get a 9x23 gun. Then you can use all of that .223 range brass and make 9x23 brass, and have a 10 shot semi-auto gun that meets or exceeds .357 magnum performance .

AFA buying .38 super load ammo, good luck finding any. If you can find it, it's going to cost more than .45 ACP. But yeah, reloading it is cheaper, slightly.
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I reload .45 only... I shoot about 100 rounds per week....I can load to where it cost me 0.11 cents per round.... thats pretty cheap... even cheaper then store bought 9
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Yes, 45 reloads are cheaper than 9mm factory ammo. But 9mm reloads are REALLY attractively priced.

If I ever own a 1911, it will be 9mm. They're just sinfully easy to shoot fast.
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Yes, 45 reloads are cheaper than 9mm factory ammo. But 9mm reloads are REALLY attractively priced.

If I ever own a 1911, it will be 9mm. They're just sinfully easy to shoot fast.
I can't complain about my 1911. It was a cheap(free) starter(Llama), that came with 1600 rounds of .45(125.00).
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Dont alot of competition shooters shoot 1911's in .38 super?? i'm assuming less recoil makes for faster follow up shots?
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Dont alot of competition shooters shoot 1911's in .38 super?? i'm assuming less recoil makes for faster follow up shots?
In a compensated open gun, yes. many competitive shooters run 38 Super.

But that's a whole different animal than a stock pistol:



And besides, Major 9 (9mm 124gr running 1300-1400 FPS) is quickly overtaking it in popularity.
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And besides, Major 9 (9mm 124gr running 1300-1400 FPS) is quickly overtaking it in popularity.
Isn't that sorta running on the ragged edge of a KB?
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Depends what you're running it IN ... Although there are quite few *GASP* Glock 17 open guns out there.

But yes, there's little margin for error. It's loaded VERY long, and shot through a very good fitted barrel, and powder selection is crucial.
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I know the IPSC guys are nuts, but that's scary hot.

This is a regular old 9x19 case? Not some sort of 9x23-esque madness?

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That's the whole point. Cheap brass. The 38Super guys immediately begin combing through the grass for their brass. It's high dollar.

In 9mm, you just leave it behind. Besides, after a couple of runs through an Open gun, the primers fall back out if you reload it anyway.
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That's the whole point. Cheap brass. The 38Super guys immediately begin combing through the grass for their brass. It's high dollar.

In 9mm, you just leave it behind. Besides, after a couple of runs through an Open gun, the primers fall back out if you reload it anyway.
Um... dayumn. Do you have any numbers for what pressures those guns are running?
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