S&W 15 vs double star 15 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

1010 · 10-15-2009, 02:24 PM

i might be getting a ar15 type rifle.....very new to the platform, ive shot a few ar's but dont know whats better than the other. i have the chance to buy a s&w m&p 15 or a double star 15.....what would you choose, and why? who makes the better rifle between the two manufactures...?

TheRedHorseman · 10-15-2009, 02:32 PM

DS has no ghey logo on every open surface.

The SW15 is nothing more than a Stag arms rifle with a higher price tag. While Stag makes good stuff, this knowlege lets you cut out the middle man and save a few bucks.

I've hear no real complaints about DS rifles, they seem to be solid.

ZjSteveO · 10-15-2009, 02:47 PM

I have a DS carbine. I love it and have had zero problems. I would not hesitate to buy another ds product.

Hop · 10-15-2009, 05:25 PM

How about DPMS?

broncman · 10-15-2009, 05:36 PM

IF the S&W and the DS were the same price, I would get the S&W because it would probably have a little better resale value to the general public.

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TheRedHorseman · 10-15-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hop

How about DPMS?

They have had issues with overly tight chambers, and their muzzle threading can be scary at times. As in very much non concentric.

I've used other parts without issue.

Vermin · 10-15-2009, 05:50 PM

I fell in love with the S&W M&P 15T years ago when I saw one sitting on the wall up at J&G. I added a longer Troy MRF, a Hogue grip and a Spikes fake can. The rifle has been very good to me - I'm still very much in love it.

Texas97 · 10-15-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermin

I fell in love with the S&W M&P 15T years ago when I saw one sitting on the wall up at J&G. I added a longer Troy MRF, a Hogue grip and a Spikes fake can. The rifle has been very good to me - I'm still very much in love it.

dude i swear i have the exact same setup. except mine is a YHM lower and RRA upper, but the look is identical with the 13.8 rail and fake can. it balances very well....

bet i paid less for mine though....

zainyD · 10-17-2009, 06:20 PM

I've been very pleased, with my S&W M&P15, but I have no experience with the Double Star.

AGUNTHER · 10-17-2009, 06:27 PM

I like others am happy w/ my M&P; however, like some have pointed out, it really is a rebadged Stag.

Mine shoots flawlessly after opening it up and adjusting the gas rings to a more uniform pattern. The little notches were all lined up when I bought it and the gun had trouble properly cycling.

kwrangln · 10-17-2009, 07:23 PM

While Stag origionally made the recievers for the M&P rifles, that stopped years ago. Today, they are S&W made. In the last few years S&W M&P rifles have earned a good reputation on their own merrits.

AGUNTHER · 10-17-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kwrangln

While Stag origionally made the recievers for the M&P rifles, that stopped years ago. Today, they are S&W made. In the last few years S&W M&P rifles have earned a good reputation on their own merrits.

Didnt know that. I was told stag pretty much made the whole thing and S&W just gussied it up. Nice to hear that they are doing it on thier own now.

lt1jeep · 10-17-2009, 08:42 PM

I have 5 doublestars m4's and they work perfect. I also have a bushmaster m4 you cant tell them apart if you cover up the names and logo's on them. I havent heard a bad thing about s&w either..

FlexCJ5 · 10-18-2009, 09:07 AM

We've got YHM, DPMS, Stag, S&W and Spikes in the shop. Honestly, they all do the same thing. Fit and finish is good all around, they put the same round downrange at the same rate of fire and have the same internal systems so...

You get different options with different rifles, but I don't see the point of spending the extra money on the MP15 unless you just love S&W.

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AGUNTHER struggling Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126828 Location: Mid-state NY Posts: 239	I like others am happy w/ my M&P; however, like some have pointed out, it really is a rebadged Stag. Mine shoots flawlessly after opening it up and adjusting the gas rings to a more uniform pattern. The little notches were all lined up when I bought it and the gun had trouble properly cycling. __________________ Im just here to learn, I dont want no trouble, if I ever say somthing stupid Ill smack myself.

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10-15-2009, 02:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheRedHorseman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64421 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 8,195	DS has no ghey logo on every open surface. The SW15 is nothing more than a Stag arms rifle with a higher price tag. While Stag makes good stuff, this knowlege lets you cut out the middle man and save a few bucks. I've hear no real complaints about DS rifles, they seem to be solid.

10-15-2009, 02:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZjSteveO Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100536 Location: Wyoming or montana, take your pick. Posts: 2,438	I have a DS carbine. I love it and have had zero problems. I would not hesitate to buy another ds product.

10-15-2009, 05:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hop Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Member # 120450 Posts: 830	How about DPMS?

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Vermin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6524 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 2,077	I fell in love with the S&W M&P 15T years ago when I saw one sitting on the wall up at J&G. I added a longer Troy MRF, a Hogue grip and a Spikes fake can. The rifle has been very good to me - I'm still very much in love it.

10-17-2009, 06:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
zainyD Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37340 Posts: 1,190	I've been very pleased, with my S&W M&P15, but I have no experience with the Double Star.

10-17-2009, 08:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
lt1jeep Wheeler Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23880 Location: harlan ky. Posts: 242	I have 5 doublestars m4's and they work perfect. I also have a bushmaster m4 you cant tell them apart if you cover up the names and logo's on them. I havent heard a bad thing about s&w either..