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Old 11-25-2009, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Black Friday Gun Safe Deal?

http://www.tractorsupply.com/cannon-...n-safe-3809071



Store up to 24 rifles in the Cannon TS6030/21 E-lock Gun Safe.

* Size: 60 in. H x 30 in. W x 20 in. D
* 24 rifle capacity
* U.L. RSC security rating
* 21 cu. ft. of storage space
* Deluxe 5 spoke handle
* Commercial grade e-lock allows owner to change combination
* Built in Power Box provides two outlets inside safe
* Automotive grade upholstered shelving and interior walls
* Adjustable tracks allow shelves to be raised, lowered, or removed
* Pre drilled for bolting to floor
* 1 in. thick multi-layer door with 1 in. locking bolts
* 3 layers of armored hard plate protect the lock mechanism
* Spring loaded re-locker keeps safe locked even after lock has been removed
* 30 minute fire rating
* Expandable fire seal helps keep out smoke and heat - seal expands up 12 times its size
* Residential Warranty: Free repair or replacement of safe after a fire, natural flood or burglary attack
* Limited Lifetime Warranty



Black Friday I can get it for $599 - seems like a decent deal (and yes, I realize it's probably more of a 16 gun safe than 24 like they advertise).


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Old 11-25-2009, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm betting a safe like that uses sheet metal and not plate steel. Still, it probably offers more protection and rigidity than those flimsy gun locker type boxes.


I like Liberty safes and Sergeant and Greenleaf combo locks.
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I just picked up a similar safe at Sutherlands out here for $604 out the door. That seems like a good deal. Mine was branded winchester but made by Granite Security and a (up to) 24 gun safe, but it sure would be packing them on top of each other. I have 10 in it and cant see it holding 24, maybe 24 10/22s with no scopes........

Oh I just realized it has internal hinges...I'd have to pass on that style. I prefer hinge pins on the outside, more secure & you can remove the door to move the safe by yourself.
If you get it...NEVER let the door over swing out hard, it can bend those internal mounts if it does, then your door is screwed.

Overall its not bad for securing your firearms.
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How are external hinges more secure?
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One thing I liked about this one was the fire rating - most safes in that price range just say "fire resistant".
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Im not against anyone wanting that style of door. I myself am not a fan of them since they are not a servicable door.

Exposed door hinges/Hidden hinges
This makes the safe door removable, which makes it lighter to move or ship. Unlike hidden hinges, exposed hinges allows the safe door to be accidentally slammed open, without damaging the hinges, as well as, being able to open a full 180 deg. The only advantage to hidden hinges is the cosmetics of it. Exposed hinges do not compromise security
Their Non-Exposed Hinges

Beware of manufacturers that will have you believe hidden hinges are just as good as exposed hinges. Most hidden hinges are susceptible to damage simply by slamming the door open! Exposed hinges are stronger and allow for easier removal and hanging of the door. This is known in the industry as a "serviceable door".
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I'll be honest - the safe will probably end up in the shop, where there are enough tools of destruction that if someone *really* wanted in, they could get in, given enough time.
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Dick's (do you have one of them local?) has a 24-gun Stack-On for $450 with a $50 mail-in rebate (final price $400), black Friday till 2PM only (it's a coupon deal).
Same flyer has a buy one get one 50% off ammo coupon, BTW.

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com and go to the "preview our sale flyer" link.

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I'll be honest - the safe will probably end up in the shop, where there are enough tools of destruction that if someone *really* wanted in, they could get in, given enough time.
I have my sawzall and grinders in the safe for just that reason.
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Dick's (do you have one of them local?) has a 24-gun Stack-On for $450 with a $50 mail-in rebate (final price $400), black Friday till 2PM only (it's a coupon deal).
Same flyer has a buy one get one 50% off ammo coupon, BTW.

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com and go to the "preview our sale flyer" link.
Yes, I saw their flyer too... however that safe doesn't have a fire rating, just says "fire resistant". I think Dick's safes don't get a fire or water rating until you get up to their $799 and up safes.
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Why are you concerned about the fire rating? If a gun goes through a fire in a safe I probably would not want to use it anyway. I just got my safe to hopefully keep people from easily stealing my stuff. I just have a stack-on sheet metal safe with a combo lock.
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Why are you concerned about the fire rating? If a gun goes through a fire in a safe I probably would not want to use it anyway.
This will be in my shop, and a 30 minute fire rating should be plenty to protect the contents (may not just be guns) from the damage of a fire in a steel sided structure like my shop.

If I just wanted to "lock them up", I would go your route and get the stack-on gun cabinet or something similar.
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