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Old 02-02-2010, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So... I can't get in my gun safe.

For various reasons (working one weekend, out of town the next, etc) I haven't had to open my safe for about six weeks. My competition pistol and my carry gun don't live in there, so I only open it every feek weeks to grab the AR or my .22 for rare range trips.

I don't have a damn clue what the combination is. Honestly. Not a hint.

It's a Dick's sporting goods 28-gun stack-on. Nothing fancy. Dial combination. It's bolted down with 4 redhead anchors, so I'm not going to be able to turn it to see if there's a serial number or whatever on the back. If I call Stack-On, all I could tell 'em is that it's black with a silver door.

Do I call a local safe or locksmith company, and start looking around for someone who knows how to crack a safe?
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends how badly you want in there. Almost any good locksmith can drill it and break the lock, but that will trash your safe.

A locksmith I used to frequent a lot used to be able to crack dial safes. I'm not sure how common that is though.
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Old 02-02-2010, 09:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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hmm way to keep combo "SECRET"


Does it have a key in the combo cylinder? Locksmith might be able to crack it...
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The blue wrench should be able to get it open in just a few minutes
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The blue wrench should be able to get it open in just a few minutes
pics or a link of this wonder wrench???
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pics or a link of this wonder wrench???
It's made up of brass, hisses, and goes by the name Victor.
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I have the same safe, what did you do with the manual that came with the safe? The manual has the safe combo on it, maybe even the serial number too. The combo lock does not seem too high tech and should be easy enough to crack the code.
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The manufacturer should be able to give you a template where to drill the safe.
IIRC Liberty safe templates have 7 options. So if you get lucky you only cut one hole.
If you are unlucky you cut 7.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ahhh never heard that one...

obviously it prolly isn't a good idea to use a super hot flame to cut open a GUN SAFE... I would assume ammo is in there as well. I imagine its going to have to be drilled out
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I have the same safe, what did you do with the manual that came with the safe? The manual has the safe combo on it, maybe even the serial number too. The combo lock does not seem too high tech and should be easy enough to crack the code.
Probably locked in the safe...
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ahhh never heard that one...

obviously it prolly isn't a good idea to use a super hot flame to cut open a GUN SAFE... I would assume ammo is in there as well. I imagine its going to have to be drilled out
i have about a 2" layer of black powder on the bottom of my safe. i figure if i can't have my guns, nobody can
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open side like a can opener using a air chisel with sheet metal blade, push away fire board, unlock door, weld it back together, put new fire board in, wled a large bolt on the side and name it "Frankensafe"
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open side like a can opener using a air chisel with sheet metal blade, push away fire board, unlock door, weld it back together, put new fire board in, wled a large bolt on the side and name it "Frankensafe"
hahaha i vote this one
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I have the same safe, what did you do with the manual that came with the safe? The manual has the safe combo on it, maybe even the serial number too. The combo lock does not seem too high tech and should be easy enough to crack the code.
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Probably locked in the safe...
Don't be ridiculous. Of course it's locked in the safe.





Once I was certain I knew the combination by heart, I either threw away or moved everything with the combination into the safe. Didn't see much point in having the combo easily accessible to thieves.





We'll see if I can find someone to crack the combination. Because I'm going to try very hard not to cut or drill the bastard.

Mostly, I'm hoping that if I wait a couple of days, the mental pressure of being locked out of the stupid thing will subside, and I'll be able to actually remember the combination.
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You could try hypnosis, maybe your subconcious was smart enough to write the combo down.
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If you ever get it open, or destroy it and get another-

Write the combination down on a slip of paper disguised as a social security number.

Like,

Steve's SSN#
456-19-5689

If a burgler comes across it, in another part of the house, they will have nothing more than some made-up guy's SSN#. Yet you will be able to use it and not wind up being THAT DUMBASS WHO HAS NO WAY TO GET INTO HIS OWN SAFE.

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You could try hypnosis, maybe your subconcious was smart enough to write the combo down.


I can't speak though, I had to tape the combo to my little security safe to the bottom of the shelf that it's bolted to.
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I have one safe that I know the numbers, but always get the sequence off of "how many times you pass zero".

It is a commercial banking safe, and seems backwards to all other safes.
I have the card with the number of turns clockwise, then counter, then clockwise, etc.
I have the card hidden so well, I forgot where it was one time.
The chances of a thief finding the card and using are very slim.
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I have that same safe; there's no key backup or anything like that. And I have no idea how to get into it if I forget the combo. My folks spent more than ten years unable to open a safe in their house, before they finally decided to pay the locksmith to just come do it.

I did have a moment of quasi-brilliance, though--I locked the manual with the combo for that safe, in a box at work. And locked the spare keys for the box at work, in the safe. So if somebody knows where both are, and can open one, they can use what they find to open the other.

From what I remember from the manual, StackOn will only send you the combination if you send them a certified letter with the serial number, but I believe the serial is on the bottom of the safe, so if it's bolted down securely, you're going to be hard pressed to find the serial number for it.

On the plus side, it's only three numbers... should be able to cycle through all the possible combinations in... umm... a week or so.

There's a couple perceptible "clicks" to the combo dial when opening it, though. I don't know if those would be useful in cracking it, or if they're only relative to the previous number dialed. Never paid a lot of attention to them.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
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A grinder would be less obtrusive than a gas axe and you could just weld a plate over the hole. Of course, then you'll have to cu through twice as much next time.
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Drill a hole in the corner on the top to get the sawzall started and cut the top off. Drill in 3 of the four corners so when you go to weld it back on you know what way it goes. Then get youre stuff out and climb in and take the door apart.
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Have you waited a couple of days, and then gone to see if you remember it?

When my safe was new, I did that a couple of time. Went to open it, and completely spaced the combo. The harder I tried to remember, the less I could. Walk away, come back in a few hours, and start spinning the dial, and bam, there's the combination spinning right out of my fingers without even thinking about it.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:53 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Good luck with the safe. A decent locksmith should be able to open it without destroying much more than the lock. I would like to think it could be opened without damage, but I could be wrong.
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