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Old 03-04-2011, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Wireless target camera. No spotting scope needed.

Just put this up on THR, but thought you guys might find it interesting.

Here's my take on a wireless camera setup. I've seen the versions that use a camcorder and a transmitter. I like this better because of the availability of IP cameras with pan/tilt/zoom that you can access and view on your laptop as a webpage.

What you need.
A) IP camera. Can be purchased from Newegg, Amazon etc. I bought the cheapy Panasonic BLC1A just to do a proof of concept type deal. I'd like to get one that has more resolution, and also pan/tilt/zoom.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-006-_-Product

B) A wireless link. Some IP cameras have WIFI built in, but I went with a wireless router and a wired IP camera due to the ease of tweaking the router and adding a better antenna. The Buffalo HP routers are nice (use DD-WRT). I am also using a 7dBi panel antenna. I have a few other antennas I'll be testing.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-134-_-Product

C) A way to power everything while it's down range. I am using a car battery and a couple power supplies. The router wants 5 Vdc, and the camera 9 Vdc. You can buy the power supplies off Ebay and also hobby stores (RC people use them for various things). $5 or so each.

D) A laptop to view the camera with at the bench. I originally planned on using a second Wifi router to receive at the bench and then connect the laptop to it. The router would certainly outperform the Laptops wifi especially after sticking a better antenna on it and cranking up the power. For now, I found I was able to get the range I needed.

I've tested range using the Buffalo router with stock antenna directly to my laptop. I ran out of room in the neighborhood testing (300 yards +). I don't expect 1000 yards being a problem.

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Here's what you get on your laptop. The camera shows up as a webpage that you simply point your browser at. Those are 22 cal. holes and also in the shade. If you had a fancier camera, you'd also be able to move the camera around and zoom

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I'd probably shoot the camera.

Cool idea for a personal range. I doubt the public ones around here would let me set on up.
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I'd probably shoot the camera.

Cool idea for a personal range.
x2 on both.

It's a cool idea, but the spotting scope is lighter
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Cool idea, but a little too complicated for me. Perhaps you could compact and combine the battery/camera/transmitter and start selling them?
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Glad somebody finally took the time to make a wireless version of this.
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Camera is further away from the target than it looks. You'd have to miss by 18" to hit it. I plan on armoring the camera anyways. You can also put the camera off to the side and further away. That's just the last placement I tried, so it got pictures taken of it.

It's not complicated at all really. It's basically a wireless network like you have in your house running off a car battery. No software to be installed.
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Depending on your cameras website to view the video you could use your smartphone as well instead of a laptop.

Nice setup, people could also use a small battery out of a UPS and get more portable.
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If the point is simply to eliminate the spotting scope - there are easier systems - much smaller too.

I use one on my RC plane to fly with. All you need is a 500mw video tx, a small decent antenna and a micro cam. It can be powered with a much smaller battery too.
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WOW! I could have all that instead of a spotting scope!

Actually, you just gave me an idea! Nice technical work there so maybe you could get this to work! How about this. A spotting scope with a camera attached to an eyepiece. Then a display screen at your shooting bench. That way you just have to glance over, or open eye it to see your target. No components out at the target, no wireless, much more compact.
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Looking around..... how about something like this?

http://www.shopkami.com/index.php?op...category_id=89

Or this...

http://www.amazon.com/MPEG4-Digital-.../dp/B0039J3OPW
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I'm going to do some video at my 2000 yard target later this month. I'm just going to set up my digital camera 100 yards short of the target. This would work better, but it seems fairly complicated.
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x2 on both.

It's a cool idea, but the spotting scope is lighter

see your bullet holes in paper at 500+ yards with your lighter spotting scope.
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Depending on your cameras website to view the video you could use your smartphone as well instead of a laptop.

Nice setup, people could also use a small battery out of a UPS and get more portable.
Thats what I am thinking.

Specially with some of the rail phone mounting devices.
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If the point is simply to eliminate the spotting scope - there are easier systems - much smaller too.

I use one on my RC plane to fly with. All you need is a 500mw video tx, a small decent antenna and a micro cam. It can be powered with a much smaller battery too.
Do you have more details?
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Cool build. I think this would be great at the entrance to my compound. Except, it would prob be easy to hijack the signal?

As for a home range, throw a solar trickle charger on it, weatherproof and you could leave it indefinitely. That would be pretty awesome.
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Ok, my idea sucks.

Here's one of those wireless cameras.....

http://www.nitroplanes.com/wosmlora24gh.html
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WOW! I could have all that instead of a spotting scope!
Can you resolve 22 caliber bullet holes at 1k+ yards with your spotting scope? Heck, even 600 yards can be problematic even with a good one. Ever dealt with mirage? The image quality on this is independent of range (until you lose your link of course).

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2000 yards should be doable. I'd probably need to improve the bench side of the link. Another Buffalo router with an upgraded antenna and the power cranked up would do it I bet. Are you trying to see where you hit, or are you trying to record video for youtube or whatever? The ip cameras don't have very good image quality.

There's nothing complicated about it at all. You're just taking a wifi router and an IP camera and powering them with a battery. The antennas screw right on.

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Nice setup, people could also use a small battery out of a UPS and get more portable.
Doesn't have to be a 12V car battery, I just had some handy. The power supplies accept a pretty wide range of input voltages (up to 40V IIRC). I might track down some LiPo batteries in the future. That's actually the battery out of one of my broke ass Heeps (both are broken right now ).
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Depending on your cameras website to view the video you could use your smartphone as well instead of a laptop.
I don't know about my camera, but a bunch of the IP cameras list being smartphone compatible. It's a standard wifi router, so it'd work with any IP camera.

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Two of these are much lighter than a car battery.

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2000 yards should be doable. I'd probably need to improve the bench side of the link. Another Buffalo router with an upgraded antenna and the power cranked up would do it I bet. Are you trying to see where you hit, or are you trying to record video for youtube or whatever? The ip cameras don't have very good image quality.

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If you're looking for something small a 1.2ghz 1000mw transmitter/receiver from ebay with high gain antennas will work. However the wifi/dd-wrt has a lot of benefits, like repeaters for unlimited range, multiple cameras, less interference and security. Also a car battery isn't needed, judging by the listed watt ratings you could run these off of a rc car 5000mah battery for close to 10 hours.

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A big reason I went the Wifi route is that I didn't want to deal with having a stupid TV monitor on the bench. The transmit end may seem complicated, but the receive end on the bench is nice. Just wip out your laptop and that's it.
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