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Old 03-17-2011, 06:16 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Im thinking, try to get as far away from civilization as possible with as many resources as possible. Any town or populated area would be he has the most bullets wins.
You are living in the wrong state for that.

I live in a fairly rural area, 20 miles from Charleston.
I know that if "the checks quit coming" that a large portion of Charleston is going to be headed my way.

Bridges are going to be dropped and roads closed. People with local knowledge will be able to get around. Those without will be stuck.

The next step to rid the community of the undesirables.
Burn them out, shoot them if you have to.
They are not going to be leaching/stealing from me, and other good members.
If you are not from the area, you will likely be shot.

So those of you with a "I'm going to the country plan", you had better understand how those in the country are going to react.

The biggest thing is to understand the scope of the situation and get the hell out of dodge, before everyone else realizes how dire the situation is.

Don't think I am crazy, many people will end up with the same mind set as I have. However, I understand it going in - most will be "learning on the fly" and come to these conclusions.
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I live in a fairly rural area, 20 miles from Charleston.I know that if "the checks quit coming" that a large portion of Charleston is going to be headed my way.

So those of you with a "I'm going to the country plan", you had better understand how those in the country are going to react.
I was explaining this to my wife the other day. She is on a kick about building a bunker/root cellar/cold cellar. I was all about a project like that this summer.

I explained to her that when shtf, you wouldn't be fighting off the government or zombies, but all the people from the nearest town that live off of welfare after they looted and stole everything they could. I can only hope when they run out of water and start drinking out of the susquehanna river they get dysentery and die quickly of dehydration.
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ya, stock up the aliens are comming to kill us..

seriously, a years supply of food on hand?
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I've always wanted a cellar, and hope to build one this summer.
It has nothing to do with SHTF, it has to do with I don't have enough room to store my canned goods.

With a cellar, I will be able to can more, eat more stuff from my garden year round, and free up quite a bit of storage in the house.
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ya, stock up the aliens are comming to kill us..

seriously, a years supply of food on hand?
The Mormons take it pretty seriously. LDS even has canning stations to help you get there.

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ya, stock up the aliens are comming to kill us..

seriously, a years supply of food on hand?
A years supply of food really does make sense. Even if you plan to grow your own. What if you have a shitty year? Bad storms, weather, hail, etc. what do fall back on when there isn't a grocery store, or when inflation is a million percent? It's not like the plan would be to live off of that food alone for a year. If that's the plan, you're only delaying starving to death by a year.

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I've always wanted a cellar, and hope to build one this summer.
It has nothing to do with SHTF, it has to do with I don't have enough room to store my canned goods.

With a cellar, I will be able to can more, eat more stuff from my garden year round, and free up quite a bit of storage in the house.
I agree, there was a modular on my property when I bought it, so right now my garage has more square footage than my house. We had a large garden last year, but not a good place to store much. I just plan to make mine suitable as a shelter in the case of an emergency. Adequate ventilation and such.
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ya, stock up the aliens are comming to kill us..

seriously, a years supply of food on hand?
Coming from someone living on a flood plane next to a gigantic dormant volcano.. I can only laugh. You are like all the people that say "when xxx happens, I'll just come to your house". Bullshit. I'm ready - and I'm not giving handouts .. unless it comes out of the end of one of my rifles.
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seriously, a years supply of food on hand?
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Coming from someone living on a flood plane next to a gigantic dormant volcano.. I can only laugh.
Thats what I was thinking. Seattle, Tacohma, Olympia, big huge basin full of 'victims'
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Coming from someone living on a flood plane next to a gigantic dormant volcano.. I can only laugh. You are like all the people that say "when xxx happens, I'll just come to your house". Bullshit. I'm ready - and I'm not giving handouts .. unless it comes out of the end of one of my rifles.
your funny.

i bet jimmy hoffa is alive and well somewhere too.

BTW, i do not live on a flood plane.

thats down on the river... I'm good where i'm at.

I have a plan if that all happens... but i'm not paranoid

IF that happens, you gotta a rifle.. but you must no know how to hunt, or grow food indoors. or.. bla bla bla bla.
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IF that happens, you gotta a rifle.. but you must no know how to hunt, or grow food indoors. or.. bla bla bla bla.
??? You think you could grow enough food indoors to feed a family? Like five tomato plants in front of the window is a survival plan.
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seriously, a years supply of food on hand?
I would rather have and not need than need and not have. Being prepared for an emergency could save your life, being unprepared could cost you it.
And along the line of SilverZuk's thinking, I like my food/cooking better than the crap sold at the grocery store/restaurant.

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The Mormons take it pretty seriously. LDS even has canning stations to help you get there.

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I really, really respect their push for self-sufficiency.

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your funny.

i bet jimmy hoffa is alive and well somewhere too.

BTW, i do not live on a flood plane.

thats down on the river... I'm good where i'm at.

I have a plan if that all happens... but i'm not paranoid

IF that happens, you gotta a rifle.. but you must no know how to hunt, or grow food indoors. or.. bla bla bla bla.
I also have 8 months worth of mortgage payments in savings just in case I loose my job.
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I also have 8 months worth of mortgage payments in savings just in case I loose my job.


THIS, i understand.
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??? You think you could grow enough food indoors to feed a family? Like five tomato plants in front of the window is a survival plan.
nope, i don't.

but i also don't think the world is comming to an end.

i can see a months worth of food for whaterver reason.

I'm quesitoning the ones who have 8,9 10, 11 12 months of food.

seams a little "paranoid"..

we should all get tread mills too, keep our ass in shape.

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nope, i don't.

but i also don't think the world is comming to an end.
None of us think the world is coming to an end. We would rather assure we are ready than wait for Obama to take care of us in the event of a natural disaster - but those never happen right? Not to us?. Enjoy living in bliss - I hope that rifle of yours (to go with your horrible english) gets you through -
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i can see a months worth of food for whaterver reason.
You've never been down on your luck or around a family down on their luck?

I know plenty of poorer country families that hunt year round out of season to support themselves, they usually have themselves stocked for a year on supplies for meat and veggies. It is also somewhat short growing season, trying to grow indoors to support a family requires alot of funds and usually works better as using hydroponics.

The last thing on their minds is collapse of an economy, they are just trying to survive week to week.
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None of us think the world is coming to an end. We would rather assure we are ready than wait for Obama to take care of us in the event of a natural disaster - but those never happen right? Not to us?. Enjoy living in bliss - I hope that rifle of yours (to go with your horrible english) gets you through -
Excuse me kind sir, i would like to inquire as to why my poor english has anything to do with this conversation.


I didn't realize this was a fawking english class.


you sir and just paranoid.

Being down on your luck i can understand and yes i have been myself. I've swept parking lots for 5 bucks, mowed lawns. cleaned septic tanks cleaned bricks.. etc. etc.

where there is a will, there is a way.


all i'm saying is that people who feel the need to have a YEARS worth of food stocked up in this day and age (with the possible exception of hermits that live off the land) is a bit overboard.

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oh, sorry VERMIN..

I just realized you live in Arizona.

ya stock up. you won't live long on cactus and sagebrush..

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The Mormons take it pretty seriously. LDS even has canning stations to help you get there.

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Speaking of which, where's Chris in this discussion?
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You are living in the wrong state for that.

I live in a fairly rural area, 20 miles from Charleston.
I know that if "the checks quit coming" that a large portion of Charleston is going to be headed my way.

Bridges are going to be dropped and roads closed. People with local knowledge will be able to get around. Those without will be stuck.

The next step to rid the community of the undesirables.
Burn them out, shoot them if you have to.
They are not going to be leaching/stealing from me, and other good members.
If you are not from the area, you will likely be shot.

So those of you with a "I'm going to the country plan", you had better understand how those in the country are going to react.

The biggest thing is to understand the scope of the situation and get the hell out of dodge, before everyone else realizes how dire the situation is.

Don't think I am crazy, many people will end up with the same mind set as I have. However, I understand it going in - most will be "learning on the fly" and come to these conclusions.
One Second After is a great book.

I also read Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse, which while a good read, to me was fairly far fetched & exaggerated. Both books align with what you're saying though. Quite interesting.
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For those in the city, something I just started looking into is Aquaponics...

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Aquaponics (pronounced: /ˈękwəˈpɒnɨks/) is a sustainable food production system that combines a traditional aquaculture (raising aquatic animals such as fish, crayfish or prawns in tanks) with hydroponics (cultivating plants in water) in a symbiotic environment. In the aquaculture, effluents accumulate in the water, increasing toxicity for the fish. This water is led to a hydroponic system where the by-products from the aquaculture are filtered out by the plants as vital nutrients, after which the cleansed water is recirculated back to the animals. The term aquaponics is a portmanteau of the terms aquaculture and hydroponic.
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