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Grendel · 03-18-2011, 02:53 PM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-not-for-you/

300sniper · 03-18-2011, 03:01 PM

i read about that the other day. what a bunch of horse shit

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what a bunch of dianne feinsteins

Chris · 03-18-2011, 04:20 PM

YOu guys are missing the point. This is a setup for a 14th amendment suit that would make shall issue statewide.

rocket flier · 03-18-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

YOu guys are missing the point. This is a setup for a 14th amendment suit that would make shall issue statewide.

If so, then I'm incredibly sad it comes to this.

Chris · 03-18-2011, 04:51 PM

It may not seem like it but the train that has been running us down for years has come to a stop and is slowly backing up. Case in point, twice in the last three months, Obummer has mentioned stiffening gun laws. "I'm getting to it" he says. No he's not "getting to it" because he knows he doesn't have the juice to swing it.

Statewide shall issue in Ca and the lives of various anti gun laws hangs in the balance now, not in the legislature but in the courts. Various judges are stalling rulings because they know they must rule in favor of knocking some of these laws down because the precedent now exists to overturn them in the higher courts if they don't. Heller and McDonaldhurt the anti gun lobby even though they won't admit it.

Grendel · 03-18-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

It may not seem like it but the train that has been running us down for years has come to a stop and is slowly backing up. Case in point, twice in the last three months, Obummer has mentioned stiffening gun laws. "I'm getting to it" he says. No he's not "getting to it" because he knows he doesn't have the juice to swing it.

Statewide shall issue in Ca and the lives of various anti gun laws hangs in the balance now, not in the legislature but in the courts. Various judges are stalling rulings because they know they must rule in favor of knocking some of these laws down because the precedent now exists to overturn them in the higher courts if they don't. Heller and McDonaldhurt the anti gun lobby even though they won't admit it.

it's still amazing that they think they can do this.

I get your points, Chris. But isn't it the least bit astounding? It's the haves and have nots.

NoJoke · 03-18-2011, 05:08 PM

I think it's time I ran for office!

Gozuki · 03-18-2011, 06:05 PM

It's coming.

dozer wright · 03-18-2011, 06:16 PM

Its the Im more important than you sydrome of all politicans have.I read an article one time that Diane Feinstein got caught carrying a revolver into a court room before she had a conceled wepons permit.Im politicain follow the rules i make I dont have too

YellowSub1962 · 03-18-2011, 07:51 PM

discliamer - I only read the first paragraph

So they are aware there's a "growing rift" and the citizens are unhappy with them and their choice is to arm themselves??? fawking brilliant! how do these window lickers get into power, and more importantly whay are they not filing for unemployment by now

Seriously, they want to arm themselves to defend against unhappy people? I couldn't read anymore...

PONY_DRIVER · 03-18-2011, 08:50 PM

Sounds like it would be ripe for the picking since it creates a class of citizens not protected under title 7. Not that that would give them standing anyway.

beater82 · 03-19-2011, 08:57 AM

Anybody know who the 2 "pro gun state democrats" are that are proposing this bill?

Chris · 03-19-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Grendel

I get your points, Chris. But isn't it the least bit astounding? It's the haves and have nots.

I can't think of a single thing a CA legislator could do at this point to astound me. After watching many, many hours of the last legislative session, it's all theater. The D's have this state in hand and even with the firm stance of some solid R's this place will continue it's slide until it implodes or someone starts going all "Term Limits" on them

I vote for that, I really do.

77bawls · 03-20-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by beater82

Anybody know who the 2 "pro gun state democrats" are that are proposing this bill?

Um, oxymoron, or trick question?

77bawls · 03-20-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

I can't think of a single thing a CA legislator could do at this point to astound me. After watching many, many hours of the last legislative session, it's all theater. The D's have this state in hand and even with the firm stance of some solid R's this place will continue it's slide until it implodes or someone starts going all "Term Limits" on them

I vote for that, I really do.

Doesn't help that they just need the majority now.

Chris · 03-20-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 77bawls

Doesn't help that they just need the majority now.

Yep, what incredible sleight of hand that was.

beater82 · 03-20-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 77bawls

Um, oxymoron, or trick question?

Just quoting out of that vague as hell article. Besides, cali is home to many anti-gun republicans, right?

Gozuki · 03-20-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beater82

Just quoting out of that vague as hell article. Besides, cali is home to many anti-gun republicans, right?

At the best, many are "neutral 2A". They go with the flow.

4runner · 03-20-2011, 03:17 PM

when is someone from PBB/OSR going to run for one of these offices?

beefdawg · 03-20-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beater82

Anybody know who the 2 "pro gun state democrats" are that are proposing this bill?

let's see, each state has two senators, Cali's are Boxer and Feinstein, they are both demos, so.......

Chris · 03-20-2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 4runner

when is someone from PBB/OSR going to run for one of these offices?

Surprisingly, we have some very pro gun legislators in Ca, they are simply overwhelmed.

Camarogenius · 03-20-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by beefdawg

let's see, each state has two senators, Cali's are Boxer and Feinstein, they are both demos, so.......

I think you missed the part about "state" in there.

beater82 · 03-20-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Surprisingly, we have some very pro gun legislators in Ca, they are simply overwhelmed.

Too bad we can't just cut the state in half. Most counties north of marin and east of the central valley are pro gun and would be awesome to live in if Sac, SF and LA weren't callin' the shots.

Chris · 03-27-2011, 02:18 PM

Here is the text of the bill. There is good stuff here, seriously.

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Existing law establishes an application process, including a
determination of good cause and completion of a training course, for
persons seeking a license to carry a concealed firearm. Existing law
authorizes the licensing authority of any city, city and county, or
county to charge a fee in addition to the application fee in an
amount equal to the actual costs for processing the application for a
new license, excluding fingerprint and training costs, but in no
case to exceed $100. Existing law provides that no requirement,
charge, assessment, fee, or condition that requires the payment of
any additional funds by the applicant, other than those costs already
specified in those provisions, may be imposed by any licensing
authority as a condition of the application for a license.

This bill would provide that the applicant would not be required
to pay for any training courses prior to a determination of good
cause being made, as specified. The bill would also provide that no
applicant would be required to obtain liability insurance as a
condition of the license.

The bill would require the licensing authority to make the
determination of good cause within 30 days of the application and to
provide written notification of that determination to the applicant,
as specified.

The bill would also provide that the good cause
requirement would be deemed to be met for any applicant who is a
member of Congress, a statewide elected official, or a Member of the
Legislature, for purposes of protection or self-defense, or if the
licensing authority fails to make the determination within the 30 day
period.

Existing law requires the licensing authority to give written
notice to the applicant indicating if the license is approved or
denied within 90 days of the initial application for a new license or
a license renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant's
criminal background check from the Department of Justice, whichever
is later.
This bill would instead require the licensing authority to give
written notice to the applicant indicating if the license is approved
or denied within 90 days of the initial application for a new
license or a license renewal. The bill would also require that the
notice provide the specific reason for denial, if the license is
denied.

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Chris III Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2032 Posts: 11,056	YOu guys are missing the point. This is a setup for a 14th amendment suit that would make shall issue statewide. __________________ 07 FFL There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload"

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Chris III Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2032 Posts: 11,056	It may not seem like it but the train that has been running us down for years has come to a stop and is slowly backing up. Case in point, twice in the last three months, Obummer has mentioned stiffening gun laws. "I'm getting to it" he says. No he's not "getting to it" because he knows he doesn't have the juice to swing it. Statewide shall issue in Ca and the lives of various anti gun laws hangs in the balance now, not in the legislature but in the courts. Various judges are stalling rulings because they know they must rule in favor of knocking some of these laws down because the precedent now exists to overturn them in the higher courts if they don't. Heller and McDonaldhurt the anti gun lobby even though they won't admit it. __________________ 07 FFL There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload"

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PONY_DRIVER Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44662 Location: In a house! Posts: 3,969	Sounds like it would be ripe for the picking since it creates a class of citizens not protected under title 7. Not that that would give them standing anyway. __________________ "I'm strangely comfortable with it."

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