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aloharover · 03-31-2011, 09:49 AM

Wood splitting thread got me thinking.

Is there a source for getting modern, quality steel, versions of these old wood working tools?

OTR · 03-31-2011, 09:55 AM

Google brings it.

http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/

Im reading Pronneke's book right now and have been thinking the same thing. You just cant go to your local store and find this stuff anymore.

k.

Drunk tank · 03-31-2011, 09:56 AM

http://www.gransfors.com/htm_eng/index.html

Done.

bigun · 03-31-2011, 10:21 AM

I used to see that kind of stuff up at the Mile High Flea Market. ME News had an article about making a Froe out of a leaf spring back in the 70s

aloharover · 03-31-2011, 11:08 AM

Thanks.
I am not familiar with any of the makers, so the quality is an unknown to me.

Yeah I am re-reading the foxfire books.

Gozuki · 03-31-2011, 11:10 AM

My limited contribution is:

Gränsfors Bruks is badass stuff, and somewhat expensive.

SilverZuk · 03-31-2011, 11:14 AM

Lehman's, but they aren't cheap.
I suspect you can find it else where for less.

Drunk tank · 03-31-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gozuki

My limited contribution is:

Gränsfors Bruks is badass stuff, and somewhat expensive.

yep... stuff is very high quality. Only bad thing is like all nice things... youre gonna pay for it! Of course... those are the type of tools youll have for life.

SEREvince · 03-31-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk tank

yep... stuff is very high quality. Only bad thing is like all nice things... you're gonna pay for it! Of course... those are the type of tools you'll pass down for generations.

Fixed, but honestly unless you are looking at the GB viking axes and such, their prices are not bad at all.

I own two of the smaller GB axes and the craftsmanship shows. Each type of axe is made by 1 or 2 craftsmen. They stamp their initials on the head once it passes final inspection. Pretty cool, no mass produced by slave labor junk.

They were about $100-125 each.

Ever since watching the movie of the guy living in ANWAR building a cabin with hand tools, I've thought these kind of tools are pretty interesting.

4runner · 03-31-2011, 05:46 PM

flea arket, antique shops, etc have these all the time...

aloharover · 03-31-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4runner

flea arket, antique shops, etc have these all the time...

Didn't even think of that

Jbevs · 03-31-2011, 06:39 PM

I'm pretty sure draw knifes are still readily available most places. Well maybe not Home Depot, but fairly easy to find.

OlBlueCJ7 · 03-31-2011, 06:43 PM

I like Lee Valley Tools (www.leevalley.com). Good quality, honest descriptions, and a fair price.

EDIT: Their website absolutely sucks. Order up all their catalogs, and I guarantee hours of toilet reading enjoyment.

RdRash · 03-31-2011, 10:07 PM

I'll toss wetterlings into the mix also.

Ah Pook · 03-31-2011, 10:22 PM

Charlie's Tool Shop (Larimer St, Denver) might have some of what your looking for.

MT4Runner · 04-01-2011, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4runner

flea arket, antique shops, etc have these all the time...

x2. Usually people don't want old draw knives, so they can be had for under $5.

Froes are less common--you'll probably be better off forging one from a leaf spring.

I sold an old broadaxe that my great grandpa picked up at an auction. He re-handled it with pine (

) and I didn't have a use for it, so I traded it off with the used tool guy for a drawknife and a block plane.

Making hand-split cedar shakes is very cool.

there's nothing like the feeling of taking a froe into a big piece of cedar and watching a thin, clean flake peel off.

Jbevs · 04-01-2011, 06:52 PM

I watched two guys make a canoe out of a log using only old time hand tools on tv one time. It was pretty cool. They had lots of specialized tools to make the job easier. The one that comes to mind is an axe with an offset head to debark the tree.

MT4Runner · 04-01-2011, 07:05 PM

Oh!

I forgot:

Many old drawknives are 2 layers of steel--a high carbon steel edge over a softer steel spine. Don't use any rotary grinding tools to sharpen them--or keep them VERY cool, or you might separate the layers.

bigun · 04-01-2011, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbevs

I watched two guys make a canoe out of a log using only old time hand tools on tv one time. It was pretty cool. They had lots of specialized tools to make the job easier. The one that comes to mind is an axe with an offset head to debark the tree.

Offset head is a broad ax the one that looks like a hoe is an adz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadaxe

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/6883/adz

Johann · 04-02-2011, 07:48 AM

I've gotten most of my woodworking tools from antique&junk shops. I ask if they have any old rusty metal.

There is usually a pile of old tools and irons in a pile somewhere. Most are worn out but sometimes there is a good one hiding at the bottom.

If you can't wait and want new then Woodcraft and Garrett Wade catalogs will have what you want.

1st Recline Bn · 04-02-2011, 06:32 PM

Pete there is a Woodcraft on Garden of the Gods
http://www.woodcraft.com/stores/Defa...te&location=CO

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OTR Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20587 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 1,753	Google brings it. http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/ Im reading Pronneke's book right now and have been thinking the same thing. You just cant go to your local store and find this stuff anymore. k. __________________ . Ultra4 Stock Class #4643 - Team NAXJA/Petty Cash Racing *"There's the troublemaker" - Craig Beck, BLM Ridgecrest Field Office* .

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bigun Rock God Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29037 Location: Mountainair NM Posts: 1,740	I used to see that kind of stuff up at the Mile High Flea Market. ME News had an article about making a Froe out of a leaf spring back in the 70s __________________ “I will not be wronged, I will not be insulted and I will not be laid a hand on. John Wayne “The Shootist.”

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aloharover lets go Squatchen Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14561 Posts: 15,868	Thanks. I am not familiar with any of the makers, so the quality is an unknown to me. Yeah I am re-reading the foxfire books. __________________ Want to know how I lost 25lbs in 9 weeks? Try INSANITY®. www.beachbodycoach.com/petermhope I love it when a plan comes together Colorado Springs, CO Based FFL-07/SOT

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Jbevs Rock God Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 143241 Posts: 1,747	I'm pretty sure draw knifes are still readily available most places. Well maybe not Home Depot, but fairly easy to find.

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OlBlueCJ7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24091 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 850	I like Lee Valley Tools (www.leevalley.com). Good quality, honest descriptions, and a fair price. EDIT: Their website absolutely sucks. Order up all their catalogs, and I guarantee hours of toilet reading enjoyment. Last edited by OlBlueCJ7; 03-31-2011 at 06:44 PM.

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RdRash Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103512 Location: Wasilla Alaska Posts: 58	I'll toss wetterlings into the mix also.

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Ah Pook Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28486 Location: Colorado Posts: 300	Charlie's Tool Shop (Larimer St, Denver) might have some of what your looking for.

04-01-2011, 06:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jbevs Rock God Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 143241 Posts: 1,747	I watched two guys make a canoe out of a log using only old time hand tools on tv one time. It was pretty cool. They had lots of specialized tools to make the job easier. The one that comes to mind is an axe with an offset head to debark the tree.

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MT4Runner IDIot! Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44480 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 16,646	Oh! I forgot: Many old drawknives are 2 layers of steel--a high carbon steel edge over a softer steel spine. Don't use any rotary grinding tools to sharpen them--or keep them VERY cool, or you might separate the layers. __________________ Motive Gear Land Use Team http://www.tenfactory.com http://www.motivegear.com http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com http://www.mastercraftsafety.com FToy 086 - UHaul Toterhome

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Johann Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4251 Location: NC USA Posts: 1,399	I've gotten most of my woodworking tools from antique&junk shops. I ask if they have any old rusty metal. There is usually a pile of old tools and irons in a pile somewhere. Most are worn out but sometimes there is a good one hiding at the bottom. If you can't wait and want new then Woodcraft and Garrett Wade catalogs will have what you want. __________________ Details removed for clarity

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1st Recline Bn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 81619 Posts: 1,479	Pete there is a Woodcraft on Garden of the Gods http://www.woodcraft.com/stores/Defa...te&location=CO __________________ [url]www.facbook.com/BoycottCO[/url]

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