If any of you want to see what a terrorist website looks like...
 

This will probably go down very quickly, but here's a link for those that are curious:
http://www.hostinganime.com/neda3/sout/index.htm

how'd u find that?

you expected something else?? :confused:

I wouldn't call that 35%, but I apologize if it is perceived that way. Those images were up on mainstream websites recently, but this guy refuses to remove them.
http://forums.hostinganime.com/viewtopic.php?t=176

yep, given that the 1st ammendment only applies to government then by default hostinganime.com has chosen to support the terrorists involved.

It is customary on this website to give the same 35% warning for graphic gore as for nudity.

What did you expect, pictures of Bambi ??? :shaking: :shaking:

No, I expected it to be like the last terrorist site I saw.... A bunch of squiggly writing and some pics of dirty bearded men with towels on their heads and bandanas across their faces. And guns.

Not only that, but now you're on the FBI's list. :flipoff2: :blackhelicopters:

:laughing: lol

Trust me, I already was. :deviant: I'm just trying to get on their payroll. :flipoff2:

Some of those asshats on the other BB piss me off. I don't applaud Hostinganime, but to get upset at them for hosting the site is just downright UN-AMERICAN. That's what's great about America, the FREEDOM. If it were me, I probably wouldn't host the site, because I don't think the terrorists deserve to live, much less enjoy the internet, but I respect Hostinganime's freedom to make their own choice, and even if I don't agree with it, I do not want to live in a tyranical society where freedom of expression is persecuted.

And if you think that because they host that site, they must support the terrorisism, you're just plain stupid, and should be cleansed from society.

I'm not saying I know where they stand, hell, mabey they do support terrorism, but them hosting that site definitely doesn't prove anything.

i will go there after work...

I understand the right to be able to host this crap for someone...but the question is why? Why would any American help spread anti-American propaganda? So I say FAWK-EM and EV-1 for hosting this shit....:mad:

How I am searching:
Searching for A record for www.hostinganime.com at m.root-servers.net: Got referral to C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. [took 210 ms]
Searching for A record for www.hostinganime.com at C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.: Got referral to ns1.anoncities.com. [took 52 ms]
Searching for A record for www.hostinganime.com at ns1.anoncities.com.: Reports www.hostinganime.com. [took 170 ms]

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Time to spring into action and put an @ss whoopin' on thier servers!

I thought you meant S.U.W.A. or the Sierra Club! :D

so freedom of speech only applies if you agree with what theyre saying?

You can say anything you want but you'll still get arrested for yelling fire in a theater.

No....It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It has to do with my ability to not understand why any American based/owned buisness would play host to this type of anti-American garbage. I in no way shape or form want to curve the right of free speech. I would however never condone doing business with someone or someone's organization that is/where involved in anti-American propaganda. Mind you this is not anti-4x4 propaganda, or anti-gun propaganda, this is anti-you and-I-take-away-our-lives-as-we-know-it propaganda.

Just me, but 'd say they have a perfectly clear right to host anything they want. But, if they get their severs shut down by 40 million pissed americans, don't complain. Pretty simple.
-John

Just becuase YOU don't understand why, doesn't mean you should be angry. That's the point. By persecuting Hostinganime you are going against everything that is American: The freedom of expression WITHOUT fear of persecution.

Stop trying to MAKE people think one way, your way.

I agree, I do not understand why they have made the decision to host the site. Certainly not what I would do. But I am mature enough to realize that just because I whole hartedly dissagree with their stance, doesn't mean that their stance is wrong.

[joke]You can do anything you want to do.....as long as you do it my way.[/joke]

I understand your point. I do however reserve the right to be pissed about an American company hosting this shiat and the right to kick the living shiat out of whoever supports these @sshats! :mad3:

The fear of persecution is from the government, not the citizenry. You can say anything you want. I have the right to call you a jackass for it.

You have NO CLUE.

Me exercising my RIGHTS to call, complain, or use any other legal mathod to let that company know I do not like what they are doing is JUST AS FAWKIN IMPORTANT as their right to host whatever they want.

And I bet you can't even see why that matters :shaking:

Well put.

You're wrong.

I have NO respect for their decision to host that. Nor does the first amendment require that I respect their decision. Nor does being an American require that I respect that utter horseshit.

Being an American, and the first amendment only requires that I not forcefully require them to shut it down. I can choose to complain, I can boycott their service, I can blacklist them, and I can spread the word about their lack of ethics to every mutherfucker I know, and it is all within my rights as an American, and not even remotely trampling on their rights as Americans.

The First Amendment gives you the right to dig your own grave, it does not require that I respect your stupidity in doing so.

Wrong here too.
By the simple act of disseminating the terrorists message, they are aiding and supporting them.

They have the choice, and they chose to support them. They could easily shut that site off if they wanted to. Years ago, I had my personal website removed by my hosting service, because it had Polish jokes on it and someone complained. (Nevermind that it also had Irish jokes, and redneck jokes, both of which are categories I fit into.)

Hard to believe so many are willing to take the "head stuck in sand approach" to that site.Like, not seeing it will make it go away.
I'd much rather live in the light,even if it is ugly sometimes,than live at all in the dark unable to see anything.

Go ahead and complain to the hosts if it offends you,or better yet quit looking at it and stop trying dictate your ideals to them.They've done nothing wrong under the law.

Anybody who condones a denial of service attack is worse than that which you try to deny.Talk about criminal?oh boohoo your sensibilities have been hurt so your gonna justify it by committing a crime?Grow up.

There NEVER has been any speak of DOS on them..... and there is NO WAY that I would condone such. Comparing a DOS attack on them to hosting terrorist propaganda is a bit of a stretch though... :confused:

As far as commiting a crime, at this point assault on your dumb ass would rank pretty high on my list of things worth sitting in the "clink" for! :flipoff2:

What the Hell are you talking about RO?

First of all, desiring the site to be shut down by it's web host (again, voluntarily by its web host, not at the behest of the government) is not a "head in the sand" approach.

It is elliminating one more tool by which these mutherfuckers spread their word.

Of course shutting off the site isn't going to make terrorism go away. But if no one's getting their message, their actions become useless. Terror only works when people see it.

As for condoning DOS attacks, has anyone in this thread aside from you even mentioned them? :rolleyes: Get off your soapbox and save it for a thread where you actually have something to preach about.

As you said: Grow up.

I agree that you have the right to complain, but that they also have the right to display it. Especially since none of use even know why it's there. They may be hosting it or mirroring it just so people like use can see it.

I'm glad there's been the discussion concerning the webhost and all that, but it really is a rare opportunity to see one of these sites. Most of them are up for only a very short time before the host, the owner or the feds take it down. I have seen several of the sites that are up for only a day or two, have yet to be able to catch one of the sites that go up as a communication device and are up only an hour or so, but IMO this is very interesting how the internet and modern communications have changed even terrorism. Educational, but yes, it sucks that the host is willing to leave it up. Like I said in the original post, even so, it probably won't be up long. ;)

Um... First Amendment? I didn't say anything about the first amendment. :rolleyes: I'm not saying your breaking the law or the constitution by being pissed at hostinganime, I'm saying your being CLOSED MINDED and ignorant. Furthermore, your response proves you are also barely literate.

And you are apparently so open-minded that your brains fell out.
Unfortunately, I am not "barely literate", otherwise I wouldn't have to read tripe like this.

ig·no·rance Audio pronunciation of "ignorance" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-ns)
n.

The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.


I don't think the majority of us are ignorant of their/these guys message and thier wants and or goals. I think that we "majority of americans" do not give two fawks about them, their want, needs, etc. Furthermore fawk the company that takes these @ssholes money.....easy enough for anyone, regardless of educational status to get. :flipoff2:

what exactly are the pictures of? For some reason they are not loading for me.

A beheaded defense contractor.

Only works when you see it?umm okay.You know it happened but it's okay as long as you don't see any pictures?
The site doesn't bother me.Like I said I'd much rather see everything than stick my head in the sand about anything.

Message?who cares about their message.I thought the biggest complaint was that it was hosted by a US provider.It's not like that site is gonna earn them any supporters is it?Wouldn't it even have a polar affect?

Whoops on the DOS comments I made earlier,I read too much into a post.

So you are supporting their right to display a dead defense contractor as well as anti-American rhetoric garnished with pictures of Kalishnakovs.

:shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

I look at it like this. IF I was the hosting contractor my response would be.

Are the people that registered with that site of U.S. Citizenship. In which case, I would allow them to post what they wish that falls within any decency guidelines I may have that I am enforcing EQUALLY on EVERYONE.

It is freedom of speech, even if I don't like it.

Now, if they are not of U.S. Citizenship, fawkem, delete the site, lock them out, deface it. I'de do any and all of the above. Why? Because they have no rights, at least none of the rights, or PRIVILAGES (sp) that a U.S. Citizen is fortunate enough to have.

Keep in mind, those of you stating this crap should be pulled down off the internet and their way of doing things and life must be abolished. The greenies say the same about motorized sports. It's a double edged sword this is.

It's not like this propaganda is being spread to Americans. Which one of you mother fuckers can read that shit? I know I sure as hell can't. It is being spread to arab mother fuckers in this country and could lead to more terrorist bullshit. This is not Americans and their right to free speech. This is arabs in some other country using an American server to host ANTI-American ideas!

FUCK FREE SPEECH. THAT IS BULL SHIT.

Um, I don't know which side of the fence I'm on here, but I have to remind you that there are LOTS of americans that CAN read that.

uhh... dude... there's lots of Americans that can read that. Just cause your (and my) ignorant asses can't doesn't mean no one else out there can. ;)

There are also plenty of arabs that are U.S. Citizens here as well.

I also doubt it alone, or even in anything other than a microscopic part are spreading terrorism.

So you're saying that I wasted 20 years of my life defending that very same freedom of speech?

Just as you have a right to complain about it, they have the right to host it.

You're a fucktard, plain and simple. :shaking:

They do have the right to host it but if my website was being hosted by them it would be changed by tommarow!I run a fab shop and if I man came in and was just arabic and wanted a cage in his 4x4 I would say no problem and treat just as I would anyone else.But if guy come in and said he needed me to fab a ram bar on the front so he could ram through a wall and blow some shit up I would tell him to get fucked and then turn the backhoe on and bury the bitch.But I geuss that is that is freedom of expresson.

Anybody bother to look at the rest of the sites this company hosts:

http://www.hostinganime.com/iraqnews1/index.html
http://www.hostinganime.com/gim/GIMfaroq.htm
http://www.hostinganime.com/neda2/page/new.htm
http://www.hostinganime.com/neda3/sout/index.htm
http://www.hostinganime.com/abuhagar/abuhager.htm
http://www.hostinganime.com/sout19/
:mad3:

Looks like a bunch of squiggly lines to me. :confused:

Brad, I looked at the site-map as well......all I can say is fawk these people and their choice in clientele.:mad3:

I'm am not saying we need to lose our freedom of speech. I'm saying I don't extend freedom of speech on my soil to people from other countries that enjoy killing innocent people.

:rolleyes:

1) thats not what you said.

2) you don't know that the owners of those sites are NOT U.S. Citizens.

3) In their eyes we aren't innocent.