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rock5150 · 12-30-2008, 02:25 PM

I'm just getting into this hobby. Cant decide between a Berg or Ax10(kit or ARTR). Would a Berg be better in the long run as far as possibly not having to upgrade as much? Aftermarket parts are expensive. What crawls better? Or are there better options for 2.2 crawlers?

KINGSIZE · 12-30-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rock5150

I'm just getting into this hobby. Cant decide between a Berg or Ax10(kit or ARTR). Would a Berg be better in the long run as far as possibly not having to upgrade as much? Aftermarket parts are expensive. What crawls better? Or are there better options for 2.2 crawlers?

I'd take a look at this before you buy anything.....

http://www.losi.com/Products/Default...rodID=LOSA0051

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GZLQd9Xiyw

benttoy · 12-30-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rock5150

I'm just getting into this hobby. Cant decide between a Berg or Ax10(kit or ARTR). Would a Berg be better in the long run as far as possibly not having to upgrade as much? Aftermarket parts are expensive. What crawls better? Or are there better options for 2.2 crawlers?

You cannot go wrong with the new Losi crawler. any out of the box car will need to be upgraded to compete with and there are parts out there for all of them. best thing to do is go to comps a lot of guys will let you run their cars and check them out

sloppy12 · 12-30-2008, 07:21 PM

as cool as the losi may be it is not gonna out perform a berg.. I also find it highly unlikely that it will take the beating a berg will take.. that and worm gear axles still have to prove themselves time will tell..

BCzuk · 12-30-2008, 07:50 PM

I was going to get a ax-10 to start but after watching all my buddys pretty much upgrade the whole thing I bought used berg diffs, a kamikaze kustoms chassis and all the other goodies. All I need now is some berg offset aluminum rims
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urbanmuddboger · 12-31-2008, 01:14 AM

how are those losis holding up?
i bought a mini t losi and to say the least i was not inpressed one little bit
and i dont know any thing about a berg but my ax is un stopable (till the bats die) but i also like to build wheel build wheel you know half the fun is building these things

lt99ls1 · 12-31-2008, 08:42 AM

I bought a ARTR kit on 12/8. I love it. I have done plenty of upgrades to it.

Seems like the Bergs are more forgivin when you make a mistake.They are great crawlers too!

I am going to pick up a new LOSI when they come out in Feb.

sloppy12 · 12-31-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by urbanmuddboger

how are those losis holding up?
i bought a mini t losi and to say the least i was not inpressed one little bit
and i dont know any thing about a berg but my ax is un stopable (till the bats die) but i also like to build wheel build wheel you know half the fun is building these things

no one knows there not out yet... and you can never trust the testers.. way I see it they should hold up about as good as a axial, so they wont hold a candle to what a berg can take right out of the box..

Deezul · 12-31-2008, 10:29 AM

bergs going to be more money....if you aren't competing not sure if its worth it

MY56CJ6 · 12-31-2008, 11:21 AM

I've got a used berg for sale if you are interested. It has been through one comp. Tx and Rx not included, but everything else is there. Let me know if you would like to see any pics.

12-30-2008, 02:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
rock5150 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63467 Location: B'wood, CA bay area Posts: 121	Fresh Start questions I'm just getting into this hobby. Cant decide between a Berg or Ax10(kit or ARTR). Would a Berg be better in the long run as far as possibly not having to upgrade as much? Aftermarket parts are expensive. What crawls better? Or are there better options for 2.2 crawlers? __________________ [B]My exwife said it was either her or the Jeep![/B] Sometimes I think too much.

12-30-2008, 07:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
BCzuk Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21320 Location: BC Canada Posts: 3,253	I was going to get a ax-10 to start but after watching all my buddys pretty much upgrade the whole thing I bought used berg diffs, a kamikaze kustoms chassis and all the other goodies. All I need now is some berg offset aluminum rims __________________ Samurai Build. TDI swap in progress http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=970111 Last edited by BCzuk; 12-30-2008 at 07:55 PM.

12-31-2008, 01:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
urbanmuddboger Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102365 Location: cottonwood ca Posts: 1,171	how are those losis holding up? i bought a mini t losi and to say the least i was not inpressed one little bit and i dont know any thing about a berg but my ax is un stopable (till the bats die) but i also like to build wheel build wheel you know half the fun is building these things __________________ MOLON LABE

12-31-2008, 08:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
lt99ls1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50881 Location: Dalton Ga Posts: 77	I bought a ARTR kit on 12/8. I love it. I have done plenty of upgrades to it. Seems like the Bergs are more forgivin when you make a mistake.They are great crawlers too! I am going to pick up a new LOSI when they come out in Feb. __________________ Larry

12-31-2008, 10:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
Deezul Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 66238 Posts: 466	bergs going to be more money....if you aren't competing not sure if its worth it __________________ Rally post #422

12-30-2008, 07:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
sloppy12 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 105183 Posts: 123	as cool as the losi may be it is not gonna out perform a berg.. I also find it highly unlikely that it will take the beating a berg will take.. that and worm gear axles still have to prove themselves time will tell..

12-31-2008, 11:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
MY56CJ6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41708 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 748	I've got a used berg for sale if you are interested. It has been through one comp. Tx and Rx not included, but everything else is there. Let me know if you would like to see any pics. __________________ ECV - 1852 '56 CJ6 - 4.3, 904, D300 w4:1, 60/70, 5.38's, 35spline chromo, 42" IROKS....family crawler '71 Chevy 4x4, built 502, 1 tons and 40's G-Man Racing #213 - LQ9, 400, 4sp Atlas, 70/14B, 5.13's 39 BFG's....2013 LCQ we are going to give it all we have!!!

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