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Old 06-19-2012, 03:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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civic ef or mazda miata build??

hey guys
just wanted to see what you thought would be better for a rally build
a 1990-1996 mazda miata. or a 1990-1991 honda civic ef hatchback. trying to have a decent budget build
whats your thoughts
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Vehicles racing in Rally America must have a factory roof. No go on the Miata.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Vehicles racing in Rally America must have a factory roof. No go on the Miata.
thanks for the response
even though mazda makes a factory hard top
it bolted on wont work?

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Old 06-21-2012, 05:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks for the response
even though mazda makes a factory hard top
it bolted on wont work?
Nope.

But, Mazda is the only mfr currently offering contingency money and race support. Doesn't matter if it's a 30 year old RX7, if you podium overall and in your class, they give out a few hundred in contingency monies. Not much, but will cover some tow rig fuel and maybe a tire or two.

I am thinking of approaching KIA for sponsoship/bodyinwhite/contingency. They are supporting Kia Optima's in the road racing circuits and I bet they would love some publicity for rally.
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I love EF's but it wouldn't be my choice for a rally build. I've seen what wayward parking lot shenanigans does to them, would hate to see what rally would do.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I love EF's but it wouldn't be my choice for a rally build. I've seen what wayward parking lot shenanigans does to them, would hate to see what rally would do.
I've seen 'em win...



Honda would probably be my first choice for a 2WD car (not just of those options). Cheap, light, lots of aftermarket.


That said, if I built a rally car, it'd be an Open Light Subaru
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A civic would make a Wonderful FWD class of car. Get a good limited slip and a cage and go pound the crap out of it!

The short wheelbase is Ideal for rally. Macpherson strut front suspension is time tested and proven. The rear suspension can be modified for gobs of suspension travel even. LOTS of aftermarket to beef it up for higher classes of FWD. Strong transmissions with close ratios. Hmm... Hell. I might even look into one.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Damnit... I just talked to my co-driver about building a civic rally car. After a bit of brainstorming and happy chin scratching, now were looking in craigslist for a damn car. See what you started! Grrr.
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Get a good limited slip
BAH. Screw that. Just weld 'er up and call it a day.



I'm actually not kidding, if you're trying to keep to a budget, money could be spent in a lot better places than an LSD.
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Budget friendly, yes. But it will hurt performance. True, a HUGE step over an open diff. However on a fwd car you will get GOBS of understeer and undue stress on other driveline components. And on the far and few between tarmac stages, wheel hop and body roll.

If you have the budget, (and lets face it here, honda crx performance parts are not exactly expensive) then an aggressive limited slip would be better.
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Damnit... I just talked to my co-driver about building a civic rally car. After a bit of brainstorming and happy chin scratching, now were looking in craigslist for a damn car. See what you started! Grrr.
George Douganis just sold his 97 civic. It had some pretty damn nice prep and he was fast in it. He offered it to me this winter, but at that point the neon was perfectly fine


I run a welded diff and really like its simplicity and predictability. sucks on slow speed tarmac, though.
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Lightbulb Cheap entry level rally car

Honda or VW Golf. Lots of rally gear available for these cars.

If you interested, pm me for the contact info of Yugi who raced in this VW Golf and finished at Rally Mexico 2012, we helped them import the Golf and got to drive it, nice little entry level rally car with a very well built roll cage. They chose this car becuase it is an easy car to fix and upgrade. Last I heard they were selling it cheap, car is in Las Vegas.

Here are some pics of the VW Golf


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I would go with the Maz
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Why not a Wagovan? It fits in with the EF civics but can come AWD.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I have seen quite a few Rally prepped (street driven also) Civic's. like already said, they have huge aftermarket support and are a light chassis.
I drive currently (while my Hilux is being fixed) a 1987 Civic 1.3L 5-speed.
It only has 65HP from the factory, but weighs around 1700-1800lbs. It doesn't drive gutless...

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