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Old 11-26-2010, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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who, what where?

dirt or tarmac?
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Old 11-26-2010, 03:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uh...me hopefully someday. Dirt of course. I've been saving my 01 focus for this, it hasn't moved it a year....

Or maybe a ZJ rally SUV? Hmmmmmmm
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who, what where?

dirt or tarmac?
Both, and the build is commencing right now
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Newb here. Dirt Rallycross is my preference. I don't understand why Rallycross is not more popular, seems like its the easiest accessible form of racing for beginners.
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I've been thinking of doing this. I have a '03 MazdaSpeed Protege, LSD up front, turbo 2.0, already looks like a subaru Has a pretty decent suspension from the factory but I'd like to learn more about possibly making it an autocross/rally racer. Anyone have more info on the subject of FWD racers in that area?
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I've been thinking of doing this. I have a '03 MazdaSpeed Protege, LSD up front, turbo 2.0, already looks like a subaru Has a pretty decent suspension from the factory but I'd like to learn more about possibly making it an autocross/rally racer. Anyone have more info on the subject of FWD racers in that area?
autoX and rally are way different set ups. Theres a ton of wrong wheel drive info out there for autoX
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I've been thinking of doing this. I have a '03 MazdaSpeed Protege, LSD up front, turbo 2.0, already looks like a subaru Has a pretty decent suspension from the factory but I'd like to learn more about possibly making it an autocross/rally racer. Anyone have more info on the subject of FWD racers in that area?
Auto-x requires a set of parts that respond well on tarmac to hard turns, with good response in and out of corners. Rally requires that stuff, plus all the dirt handling equipment, ability to last for miles on end, and take jumps, bumps, dips, mud, dirt, and everything in between.

Oh and looks like a Subaru is the biggest compliment that thing has ever gotten. to bad it'll never run or handle like one

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autoX and rally are way different set ups. Theres a ton of wrong wheel drive info out there for autoX
Yep, lots of front wheel drive info for auto-x, not a whole lot of Rally racers using fwd so good luck on that.
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It runs pretty good for 150K and original parts. Turbo has some shaft play and I'd like to go through the 2.0 while I'm in there when I get around to it. It's my DD right now but won't always be.

I doubt I'll get into rally as my TJ would be better for go-fast stuff on dirt. The MSP came with a lot of good parts and a good setup and does well in AutoX stuff. It may not be AWD with a boxxer engine but it's not a bad little car for what I paid. I think I could piss off a few of you Subaru owners with it
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MS3's are underrated by the public. I'm suprised by your screen name and lack of comment about the Mazda 323 GTX


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I have a MSP, not MS3 - two very different cars.

Who says my s/n is about a Mazda?
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They both have mazda emblems, that's about it
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Old 11-28-2010, 05:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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They both have mazda emblems, that's about it
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The Mazda Familia was a small family car or compact car manufactured by Mazda between 1964 and 2003 and marketed in several body styles and under numerous other brands and nameplates.

Other nameplates for the Familia included Mazda 1000, 1200, and 1300, 800, 808, and 818. In North America, nameplates included GLC, 323 and Protegé. In South Africa, it was marketed as the Étude. In Colombia the 8th generation was called Allegro.

The Familia was also rebranded as the Ford Laser and Meteor in Asia, Australasia some Latin American countries and (from 1991) as the Ford Escort and Mercury Tracer in North America.

Familias were manufactured in Hiroshima, Japan as well as Taiwan, Malaysia, South Africa, Colombia and New Zealand.

The Familia line was replaced by the Mazda Axela in 2004.


The Mazda3 (known as the Mazda Axela in Japan) is a compact car manufactured in Japan by the Mazda Motor Corporation. It was introduced for the 2004 model year, replacing the Mazda Familia (323 or Protegé in export markets). A more performance-oriented version of the Mazda3 is marketed as Mazdaspeed3 in North America and Mazda3 MPS in Europe.


Both are good base cars. The 3 with the heavily Ford engineered MZR engine might take and edge on the MSP. That last generation of P's did well in endurance racing. I'll have to talk to a friend of mine and see what they were making power wise in the day.
Mazdas biggest weak point is the programing of the ECM. If your willing to go stand alone electronics. The MSP cam make some nice power.
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found out today I might get to be a crew member for a guy running a snodrift prorally race in January...fawk yeah
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Been into rally for many years.. Just now starting to get back into auto cross again this next season..

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traded my subie a few months ago, i did a LOT of autox and a one or two rallyx events in red hook, ny. almost got into ice racing but wasnt too keen on letting my DD hang sideways and get beat up by other cars.







i plan on getting an older civic and setting it up for mixed tarmac and dirt eventually.
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Im in west michigan... new to the actual scene of rallyx (plan to go out this coming ye) just worried cuz its about 2 hours away. But ive been beating on cars in sand and on farms for about 10 years. Ill be up at that sno drift event in january... hope to see you guys there.

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Been into rally for many years.. Just now starting to get back into auto cross again this next season..

Here are a couple pics of my old Subaru..

Sweet ride!! Care to share the specs?

IF there was one 'series' that I'd like to get into, it'd be rally.
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traded my subie a few months ago, i did a LOT of autox and a one or two rallyx events in red hook, ny. almost got into ice racing but wasnt too keen on letting my DD hang sideways and get beat up by other cars.

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We are really clean racers up here in Maine (you wouldn't know it by looking at what we race )- as a matter of fact we've had some guys from the AMEC club come up and race with us during our enduros and sprint races. They all drove here and left here without a scratch. Come check it out if you are bored on a sunday afternoon www.nmira.com. The website kinda sucks, but they do a good job at updating the ice conditions and such.
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