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Old 11-28-2010, 09:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The old standby Hella 500's work well. How will a VisionX LED bar do at speed in a dark forrest?
We know their good in the open desert. But does the light get absorbed by the trees and growth?
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I am not fond of the LEDs for desert racing, they work well for a rock rig on the trail. Or as a close in fill light in the desert, but not as a driving light.
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My neighbor uses kragen hid's on her rally car. She is very happy with them.
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My neighbor uses kragen hid's on her rally car. She is very happy with them.

how long of a race is a typical night time rally segment ?

The kragen HID I have seen have crazy bad hot and cold spots and holes in the light patterns. maybe for a short race you could deal with that but for anything long that would drive me nuts.

obviously for the price they suit many peoples needs but they are far far from a quality lighting solution.
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I've seen a couple with lightforce lights....
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how long of a race is a typical night time rally segment ?
not sure. There are very few night rallys that she races. She replaced Hellas with them.
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I am not fond of the LEDs for desert racing, they work well for a rock rig on the trail. Or as a close in fill light in the desert, but not as a driving light.
hum....apex lighting
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I have the Hella Rallye 4000 Halogens on my truck, they are killer! They are all aluminum construction and seem pretty tough (I bumped my garage door with them a couple of weeks ago and they didn't budge. ). They look awesome too.

Here's a picture, goofing around with the covers on. Eurobeams in the centre and cornering beams on the outside.
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Here's a little video I made last week of my lights in action. It doesn't really do them justice and if I were using them for off-road only I'd adjust them a little more agressively but it's plain to see the difference that they make in the video.

YouTube - Hella Rallye 4000 Halogen
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Hella is probably the most common.

I've got a set of Hella FF1000 Xenon (HID) with the Hella factory 35W ballasts in a driving pattern, and just got in (sitting on the table next to my desk as i type this) two Hella Rallye 4000 pencil beams. Back in the garage at home I have a set of H1 HID conversion capsules and a pair of 55W ballasts that are going into these.

H1 HID conversions typically work pretty well, unlike, for instance, H3 like KC uses.
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I am not fond of the LEDs for desert racing, they work well for a rock rig on the trail. Or as a close in fill light in the desert, but not as a driving light.
In my experience, LED lighting tends to be somehow "flat" and doesn't give me a good sense of depth, which I find bad at high speeds.

I know that the LED lights have been used in rally, but also many seem to prefer them as close in lights, with HID for the distance lighting.
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The kragen HID I have seen have crazy bad hot and cold spots and holes in the light patterns. maybe for a short race you could deal with that but for anything long that would drive me nuts.
The Kragen HIDs I've seen appear to actually be Hella Optilux lights. Which is not a good thing (I love Hella lights, but the Optilux line is cheap ricer crap).

If the Kragens are going for about $100 each (which they were last time I bothered to look, which was a while ago), then you could get a couple of Hella Rallye 3000s and a 55W HID conversion kit for maybe $50 more and it would be hands down better.

I should have just done a multi-quote.
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