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Old 04-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:29 AM   #102 (permalink)
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The "Box" will never be the same.......................

But really , what are the rules pertaining to wood gathering? since it's down now is it open season on it? Does it belong to the county since its technically in the " road "?

As previously stated we need to do something special / useful / symbolic with it before somebody starts hacking on it for this and that or worse! firewood for a winter campfire !
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But really , what are the rules pertaining to wood gathering? since it's down now is it open season on it? Does it belong to the county since its technically in the " road "?

As previously stated we need to do something special / useful / symbolic with it before somebody starts hacking on it for this and that or worse! firewood for a winter campfire !
The County is "responsible" for the tree. In the OP, it was asked that people please, please not souvenir hunt.

I think a lot of people are the same page as you, in terms of doing something beyond wood chips. Whatever is done...won't be easy...he's a big boy.
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The County is "responsible" for the tree. In the OP, it was asked that people please, please not souvenir hunt.

I think a lot of people are the same page as you, in terms of doing something beyond wood chips. Whatever is done...won't be easy...he's a big boy.
Yeah, because a downed tree is so sacred. How about caring about the tree when idiots were pulling out the surrounding rocks?
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1500 to 2000yrs.........
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Never been, but I can see the significance of that tree just looking at some pictures. What a shame...

I want to do a 5 day camping/crawling in rubicon before I turn 25. Kind of a goal of mine.
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I think it would be awesome to have a bench made with a plaque on it. Have it somewhere near the Sluice Box. I mean how much would that cost to have someone do that? I would donate!

Maybe a PBBr can cut it up?
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Really confused on why taking a piece of the tree is such a bad thing? The forestry service is going to look at it as what it is, a Tree. They more than likely will cut it into a bunch of misc pieces and it will become fire wood, insuring the trail is clear.

That tree is very symbolic and I imagine that anyone that would make the effort to take a piece is deserving and bet it would hold a special place for each individual. I would like to have a piece and make something that I could have in my house and so would many others as a reminder. Sucks to be the devils advocate but trying to "police" this is pure greed

This is not a national landmark and dont see the forestry service investing the funds it would take to preserve this tree and have yet to see anyone in the private sector offer. I may be wrong but if im right, its gonna suck to realize that the tree has become ash and the chance at a piece of history for those who would love one is gone.

The forestry service telling someone over the phone to pass the word does not really make me believe that they have the slightest plans of its preservation. This is not something that can be put off or think about for a long time, come springtime it will have a very short time before its gone.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:59 PM   #117 (permalink)
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I have always wondered about the age of that tree...

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Well rockbuggy84 it is not the forestry it is the Eldorado Department of Transpotation (DOT) and some of them that work on the trail actually run the trail. So lets see what they are thinking about. Has anyone looked close enough to see if all the roots are broke off. Could the tree be saved? So dont cut it up untill a specialist has a look at it.
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Has anyone looked close enough to see if all the roots are broke off. Could the tree be saved? So dont cut it up untill a specialist has a look at it.
I am not a specialist by any stretch, very much a tree "lay person". That being said, this is what I observed. The tree did not break off at the base, the root ball was pulled out of the ground. I saw this happen to several trees up there this year, and in my experience it is unusual. Maybe the right/wrong combination of lack of snow, wet soil and wind? I don't have the expertise to offer that kind of opinion, but like I said, I haven't really seen this happen before up there.
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Really confused on why taking a piece of the tree is such a bad thing? The forestry service is going to look at it as what it is, a Tree. They more than likely will cut it into a bunch of misc pieces and it will become fire wood, insuring the trail is clear.

That tree is very symbolic and I imagine that anyone that would make the effort to take a piece is deserving and bet it would hold a special place for each individual. I would like to have a piece and make something that I could have in my house and so would many others as a reminder. Sucks to be the devils advocate but trying to "police" this is pure greed

This is not a national landmark and dont see the forestry service investing the funds it would take to preserve this tree and have yet to see anyone in the private sector offer. I may be wrong but if im right, its gonna suck to realize that the tree has become ash and the chance at a piece of history for those who would love one is gone.

The forestry service telling someone over the phone to pass the word does not really make me believe that they have the slightest plans of its preservation. This is not something that can be put off or think about for a long time, come springtime it will have a very short time before its gone.
As has been posted just above, the tree is El Dorado County's responsibility. It fell across the road and like any tree that falls across the road, it will be removed.

The difference is, that many people have history with the tree in that they have spent time enjoying themselves in it's shade. It is more photographed than any other one particular tree on the Rubicon. so, it is significant.

RTF is working with the County and, I think, we will have access to the chunks of the tree. We intend to preserve them and make historical slabs to be displayed for people to see. Where, we do not know yet, but that is one part of the plan so far. We have also asked for slabs to use for fund raising that will benefit the trail and it's users.

Is that OK? Imagine, we may have something for Cantina available.

RTF is asking as well as the County, for users to have some patience and restraint and leave the removal for the crews to do. This may be an FOTR project, that thing is pretty big!!! The meeting is this weekend!
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As has been posted just above, the tree is El Dorado County's responsibility. It fell across the road and like any tree that falls across the road, it will be removed.

The difference is, that many people have history with the tree in that they have spent time enjoying themselves in it's shade. It is more photographed than any other one particular tree on the Rubicon. so, it is significant.

RTF is working with the County and, I think, we will have access to the chunks of the tree. We intend to preserve them and make historical slabs to be displayed for people to see. Where, we do not know yet, but that is one part of the plan so far. We have also asked for slabs to use for fund raising that will benefit the trail and it's users.

Is that OK? Imagine, we may have something for Cantina available.

RTF is asking as well as the County, for users to have some patience and restraint and leave the removal for the crews to do. This may be an FOTR project, that thing is pretty big!!! The meeting is this weekend!
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RTF is asking as well as the County, for users to have some patience and restraint and leave the removal for the crews to do. This may be an FOTR project, that thing is pretty big!!! The meeting is this weekend!
If it come to that I will offer to help cut some slabs from it. I have a saw that would work on something that size
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RTF is working with the County and, I think, we will have access to the chunks of the tree. We intend to preserve them and make historical slabs to be displayed for people to see. Where, we do not know yet, but that is one part of the plan so far. We have also asked for slabs to use for fund raising that will benefit the trail and it's users.

Is that OK? Imagine, we may have something for Cantina available.
Small chunks of the tree preserved in lucite. Small, 2-3", keepsakes that could be hung from just about anywhere would be pretty cool. I wouldn't mind one hanging from my rear view mirror. The proceeds could be used to benefit the trail.

Just throwing out an idea.

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Well if it does happen to get cut up into firewood, it will most likely be burned on the trail... so in a way it'll be like spreading the ashes

I like the idea of a large bench setup for people to watch Little Sluice.
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Well if it does happen to get cut up into firewood, it will most likely be burned on the trail... so in a way it'll be like spreading the ashes

I like the idea of a large bench setup for people to watch Little Sluice.
a bench is a great idea but vandals will see it as easy firewood. The best idea IMO is for RTF and related entities to be there when the sawyers hit it and load up the RTF trailers with some rounds and store them somewhere until decision is made, like at Merlin's or ?? Or we form a trailer brigade-- i can help.

If ownership is authorized, small chunks with certificate of authenticity is an awesome fund raiser idea. True fans of the trail will line up for a piece of history. Larger pieces for plaques, ceremonial events maybe some in the springs, etc.
Maybe my Clamper brothers can place a satisfactory metal plaque on the rootball site?
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