Flying Rock for county work! - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

oldtimingman · 05-18-2012, 09:49 PM

There is scheduled to be a Erickson AirCrane S-64F helicopter hauling rock Sunday for the county to work sites and several locations . There will be ground crew moving around coordinating the drops. There shouldn't be any flying directly over the trail but always entering from the side.

But please be advised the aircraft puts out A LOT of rotor wash over a great distance with these size loads! Branches from trees, dust, etc. maybe kicked up so please keep your distance when the rock is being dropped off. :eek

Update: Sounds like work won't start till sometime Monday now

oldtimingman · 05-19-2012, 11:17 AM

To all readers of this thread:
This thread was posted only as a courtesy to everyone to prevent any possibility of injury, or inconvenience if the trail is temporarily blocked during the drop of of a load.

Safety first!

Curly · 05-19-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldtimingman

To all readers of this thread:
This thread was posted only as a courtesy to everyone to prevent any possibility of injury, or inconvenience if the trail is temporarily blocked during the drop of of a load.

Safety first!

Sorry for the rant and your right probably not the thread for it. Agreed on the safety and heads up 100%.
Thanks,
Tim.

MagnumV · 05-20-2012, 10:09 AM

Curly, you said it better than anyone else has. As a long time reader of this forum and an even longer time user of the trail and many others, I could not agree more with your rant. The bs just keeps getting deeper.

upinit · 05-20-2012, 11:45 AM

I second that!

oldtimingman · 05-20-2012, 12:16 PM

To all readers of this thread:

At the opening of this thread it stated this was posted ONLY as a courtesy to our fellow wheelers out or the fine folks salvaging the tree at the Lil Sluice in the event that they might be moving about the trail.

Curly · 05-20-2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldtimingman

To all readers of this thread:

At the opening of this thread it stated this was posted ONLY as a courtesy to our fellow wheelers out or the fine folks salvaging the tree at the Lil Sluice in the event that they might be moving about the trail.

It is regrettable that fine upstanding individuals feel that this thread is an appropriate place to express their personal views of their states or the countries economic and social policies.

Therefore I have no other avenue to take other than request that the moderators of this forum please delete this thread in the event any other personal opinions or politcal comments are posted!

My comments have been removed

Please continue on with your message. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Tim.

oldtimingman · 05-21-2012, 09:29 PM

Should be flying rock now! HEADS UP!

oldtimingman · 05-22-2012, 06:08 PM

Flew 13 loads on Monday. Working on an update for today.

run23 · 05-25-2012, 07:30 PM

quite a sight to see. I watched on monday,saw some of the first loads get flown in while i was coming up cadillac. We stoped at the lookout and ate lunch watched 4 or 5 more trips. looking forward to seeing the new trail mods

Davec107 · 05-25-2012, 07:54 PM

I watched the helicopter for 4 days. A lot of flying for 2 yards of rock per load. I thought they would haul much more until I checked out the size of one of their piles... nice alarm clock at 0700....

atvobsession · 05-25-2012, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davec107

I watched the helicopter for 4 days. A lot of flying for 2 yards of rock per load. I thought they would haul much more until I checked out the size of one of their piles... nice alarm clock at 0700....

It was impressive to watch it in person. I was there at quarry on Wed. Each bucket they planned on 6,000lbs per bucket load....but they were able to get 8,000lbs per load, by using a log to tilt the bucket on loading. It was quite a concert....drop, pick up, move into position, load rock, wait about 5 min....do it again.

Davec107 · 05-26-2012, 02:20 PM

I will give it to the pilot. When he was swinging that bucket in he was on every control in that machine. It was amazing to see that rotor going every which way to stabilize the bucket for the drop. I could set my watch by it, 15 minutes a trip to the springs. Wish i could have had a trip with them, cool stuff. ...

Throttleman · 05-26-2012, 02:40 PM

How much does "Flying Rock" cost? And who paid for that?

atvobsession · 05-27-2012, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Throttleman

How much does "Flying Rock" cost? And who paid for that?

It cost $300,000....which, if you saw the operation...they didn't make much. 1 helicopter flown from Oregon, 2 fuel stops to get there, 4 pilots, 1 semi truck of crew, 1 tanker for fuel, multiple trips to refill the tanker and ground crew.

It was paid for....by........The fund that Joe Simitian said wouldn't hurt OHV.....our OHV Grant Fund.

oldtimingman · 05-28-2012, 05:42 AM

the job was done within the budget that Vicki and El Do Co. had appropriated. I spoke with the marketing group and crews several times to let them know how important this job was and try to squeeze all we could into it.

We first quoted the job with a smaller capacity aircrane , then our larger version was available so we were able to make less trips but haul more rock and stay within Vicki's budget.

Also snagging the tree was a plus for all.

But to your comment ......no, you ARE right, we didn't make much .

The Wolf · 05-28-2012, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atvobsession

It cost $300,000....which, if you saw the operation...they didn't make much. 1 helicopter flown from Oregon, 2 fuel stops to get there, 4 pilots, 1 semi truck of crew, 1 tanker for fuel, multiple trips to refill the tanker and ground crew.

It was paid for....by........The fund that Joe Simitian said wouldn't hurt OHV.....our OHV Grant Fund.

This is exactly why the grants program is so valuable! It funds projects statewide that are so vital to keeping ohv areas open. I would say that The El Dorado County would not be able to keep the Rubicon Trail open without this funding! Smitian has no clue what this program does!

atvobsession · 05-28-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldtimingman

But to your comment ......no, you ARE right, we didn't make much .

As I surmised. I wanted people to know, while $300,000 sounds like a lot of money, and it is.....there was a lot more to the operation than "a" helicopter.

fermentor · 05-29-2012, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atvobsession

It was paid for....by........The fund that Joe Simitian said wouldn't hurt OHV.....our OHV Grant Fund.

How about we take up a collection to drop a load of rock on Simitian?

05-18-2012, 09:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
oldtimingman Tinkerer Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75774 Location: In a van down by the Rogue River, OR Posts: 605	Flying Rock for county work! There is scheduled to be a Erickson AirCrane S-64F helicopter hauling rock Sunday for the county to work sites and several locations . There will be ground crew moving around coordinating the drops. There shouldn't be any flying directly over the trail but always entering from the side. But please be advised the aircraft puts out A LOT of rotor wash over a great distance with these size loads! Branches from trees, dust, etc. maybe kicked up so please keep your distance when the rock is being dropped off. :eek Update: Sounds like work won't start till sometime Monday now Last edited by oldtimingman; 05-18-2012 at 10:40 PM.

05-20-2012, 11:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
upinit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12229 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 352	I second that! __________________ "An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools..." Ernest Hemingway

05-20-2012, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
oldtimingman Tinkerer Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75774 Location: In a van down by the Rogue River, OR Posts: 605	To all readers of this thread: At the opening of this thread it stated this was posted ONLY as a courtesy to our fellow wheelers out or the fine folks salvaging the tree at the Lil Sluice in the event that they might be moving about the trail. Last edited by oldtimingman; 05-28-2012 at 05:44 AM.

05-21-2012, 09:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
oldtimingman Tinkerer Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75774 Location: In a van down by the Rogue River, OR Posts: 605	Should be flying rock now! HEADS UP! Last edited by oldtimingman; 05-21-2012 at 09:30 PM.

05-26-2012, 02:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
Throttleman Wheeler Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99630 Location: El Dorado County CA Posts: 353	No Pictures? How much does "Flying Rock" cost? And who paid for that?

05-19-2012, 11:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
oldtimingman Tinkerer Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75774 Location: In a van down by the Rogue River, OR Posts: 605	To all readers of this thread: This thread was posted only as a courtesy to everyone to prevent any possibility of injury, or inconvenience if the trail is temporarily blocked during the drop of of a load. Safety first!

05-20-2012, 10:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
MagnumV Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 128056 Location: San Jose Posts: 2	Curly, you said it better than anyone else has. As a long time reader of this forum and an even longer time user of the trail and many others, I could not agree more with your rant. The bs just keeps getting deeper.

05-22-2012, 06:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
oldtimingman Tinkerer Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75774 Location: In a van down by the Rogue River, OR Posts: 605	Flew 13 loads on Monday. Working on an update for today.

05-25-2012, 07:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
run23 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171517 Posts: 11	quite a sight to see. I watched on monday,saw some of the first loads get flown in while i was coming up cadillac. We stoped at the lookout and ate lunch watched 4 or 5 more trips. looking forward to seeing the new trail mods

05-25-2012, 07:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Davec107 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 101524 Posts: 30	I watched the helicopter for 4 days. A lot of flying for 2 yards of rock per load. I thought they would haul much more until I checked out the size of one of their piles... nice alarm clock at 0700....

05-26-2012, 02:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
Davec107 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 101524 Posts: 30	I will give it to the pilot. When he was swinging that bucket in he was on every control in that machine. It was amazing to see that rotor going every which way to stabilize the bucket for the drop. I could set my watch by it, 15 minutes a trip to the springs. Wish i could have had a trip with them, cool stuff. ...

05-28-2012, 05:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
oldtimingman Tinkerer Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75774 Location: In a van down by the Rogue River, OR Posts: 605	the job was done within the budget that Vicki and El Do Co. had appropriated. I spoke with the marketing group and crews several times to let them know how important this job was and try to squeeze all we could into it. We first quoted the job with a smaller capacity aircrane , then our larger version was available so we were able to make less trips but haul more rock and stay within Vicki's budget. Also snagging the tree was a plus for all. But to your comment ......no, you ARE right, we didn't make much .

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