Rubicon Springs "bear"

[Grizzled]

Was the fella you met in Idaho carrying the Weatherby sidearm as his primary?

No way. It was his backup, and he was a BIG BOY(300+). Most of the guys out there were using a rifle like mine(300RUM) for primary, and they run dogs(I don't). Ride around with these things on the roof of the truck, let the dogs sound off, and let the dogs chase a bear up a tree. Radio collars on the dogs would lead the hillbillies to the bear and bang - pretty easy, huh?

We didn't do that. As a matter of fact, the guy I was with kinda looked down on that practice. Instead, he had me hike through rock and brush, uphill and over mountains(yes, OVER them), with the rifle and some minimal gear. I packed my .45, and felt that is was "borderline" acceptable as a backup. Had a couple of scary moments on my face in the bushes, but never did get a bear - despite walking MILES and MILES for over 6 days straight, in the heat, in the cold, the snow, the hail. Oh, it was worth it though - makes ya feel alive.

Cheers.

[randii]

I wouldn't want to face down a bear with any form of handgun. If the bear is within sidearm range, I doubt that I (heck, many folks at all!) could drop the hammer enough times to come up empty -- bears move FAST. Aim? Ha, most people would be focused on deciding to scream before or after they finished wetting themselves!

Props to you, Griz, for being a real sportsman.

Randii

[Pat]

I don't normally get into these threads but think of where you are at... You are in the Middle a remote wilderness.. Not in downtown reno or the casino's around the lake. Alot of people go up into the mtns thinking the world revolves around them. People should think before they go up to the con... As stated before learn how to store your food and don't be surprised when a bear says hello when you are in the sierras... You are in his or hers backyard.. At the same time I think anyone has the right to defend them selves if it is needed, a bear that is used to people can be dangerous..

I have run into more then one bear in all the years I have been in the woods either backpacking, logging, four wheeling, etc. and their lives revolve around food... Store your food correctly and enjoy seeing them when you do...

[randii]

...back to the tippy-top...

[Yota Up]

Holy thread revival. By the way, "Grizzled" is me. That used to be my former screenname here on Pirate. Just incase anyone is surprised by me responding to any questions aimed at Grizzled...

[MochaMike]

Man.. I was grumpy in my youth... (ie 30s).

[peesalot]

We were up there for Fathers day and a bear came snoopin around at Buck. Neighbors fired some rounds and we had been shootin some 223 so it is obvious that bear had no fear of the sound of firearms. I slept open air on a cot and wished I had the 50 cal. like others. A good size airhorn is not a bad idea. and multiple food locations is good planning.

[MochaMike]

They recognize coolers & food containers.

Cover them with Tarps, & sprinkle Cayenne pepper all over the outside of the tarp. (if you can't hang/store food in metal canisters).

[77bawls]

looks like I may have to get a bear tag this year.

[Yota Up]

Originally Posted by 77bawls

looks like I may have to get a bear tag in a few years.

Fixed. Let that guy grow. Wait until his ears look little. Pick him up in a few years after he's had his fill with Rubicon Wheeler Cooler food. He'll taste great after eating everyone's tritips and Doritos. And those blonde and cinnamon bears make beautiful rugs, too. I'd like a tag myself...

[77bawls]

I don't know if bear is like pig but the smaller pigs taste better.

[trkklr77]

i have heard that for just about every game animal.

[scram]

I suprised no on this board have ever used Electric Bear Fences, I have had the backpackers version one for years now and they work great!!! Only downfall is you have to set them up in Dirt, sometimes a little hard on the Con. I know theres alot of different versions of them out there now but the one I use is from this company. http://www.electrobearguard.com/Product.html One hit and they wont be back, I can testify to this!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bebe]

I wonder if he's deaf?

[Disco]

Originally Posted by Bebe

I wonder if he's deaf?

What?

[surpip]

Originally Posted by JAKE

THE POINT IS THAT THIS BEAR IS DANGEROUS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SPRINGS WEEKS AGO. WHEN A BEAR COMES INTO CAMP AND DOESNT CARE WHAT YOU DO OR WHOS THERE, SOMEONE EVENTUALLY IS GOING TO GET HURT OR SOMEONES GOING TO SHOOT THE BEAR.

Should be removed?
Its the damn forest, the forest is where bears live, where do you suggest it should be removed too?
Keep in mind, you are in the Bear's house, not the other way around.
maybe take the caps lock off as well.

[Flash- '00 TJ]

Originally Posted by surpip

Should be removed?
Its the damn forest, the forest is where bears live, where do you suggest it should be removed too?
Keep in mind, you are in the Bear's house, not the other way around.
maybe take the caps lock off as well.

I agree with your comments, but you do know that you are replying to a post that was made on 08-18-2003 right?

[Yota Up]

Originally Posted by Flash- '00 TJ

I agree with your comments, but you do know that you are replying to a post that was made on 08-18-2003 right?

It's ok. He's responding to that idea.
I'll try and explain the reason for such an idea to him on the other persons behalf.

Yes, the forest is the home of the bear. Agreed.
However, in certain parts of certain forests that used by a lot of people, there are two types of bears. Those that are "normal" and shy away from people, and those that get acclimated to folks and keep getting closer. The latter are considered potential problem bears.

When bears lose their fear of man and start getting too close, it become more and more possible for a harmful outcome to happen. In cases like this, it's common to relocate a bear to a more remote, less traveled area of the forest.

In a sense, the bear remains in the forest, just a different part.

Funny thing is, a lot of bears somehow make their way right back to where they started. So the efforts may be futile in the long run.

But this is a standard approach to dealing with bears that get comfy with people. We may not agree with it, but the experts feel it's in the best interest of both the campers as well as the bears. Hope that helps it makes more sense, even if you still don't agree with it.

[Simple Man]

I have absolutely nothing to back this up but years ago I heard that some problem bears were relocated to the Eldorado Forest.

[1uglyranger]

I didn't notice the date at first either, and thought WOW, Jake is wheelin again

[bigsquat]

Originally Posted by Bebe

I wonder if he's deaf?

i was thinking the same thing, when people say the bear didnt react when a 45 goes off.

[yotapower1]

Just remember we are wheeling in there home! If someone walks through your back yard with a tri tip you would want a bite rite? If you take the proper pre-cautions you wont have a problem! (party until the sun comes up) Trust me thats what we did and never saw those *fellas*. We hung all our *stuff* the first night (when we were sober) and the next night all our food was on the ground. But we didnt go to bed until the sun was coming up!

[Throttleman]

This weekend in the Union Valley area. It seems a camper left out his food, did not store it in the USFS provided container and attempted to scare the bear with a .45. The bear dissaproved and scrached the guys face.

20 plus stitches and the guy is OK and the bear is dead.

Originally Posted by yotapower1

Just remember we are wheeling in there home! If someone walks through your back yard with a tri tip you would want a bite rite? If you take the proper pre-cautions you wont have a problem! (party until the sun comes up) Trust me thats what we did and never saw those *fellas*. We hung all our *stuff* the first night (when we were sober) and the next night all our food was on the ground. But we didnt go to bed until the sun was coming up!

[bigsquat]

Originally Posted by yotapower1

Just remember we are wheeling in there home! If someone walks through your back yard with a tri tip you would want a bite rite? If you take the proper pre-cautions you wont have a problem! (party until the sun comes up) Trust me thats what we did and never saw those *fellas*. We hung all our *stuff* the first night (when we were sober) and the next night all our food was on the ground. But we didnt go to bed until the sun was coming up!

do you hire out to be on bear watch? we could just supply you with a case of beer and i could sleep soundly knowing your on the job.

[Lil Uzi]

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