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bajabug · 01-14-2004, 11:02 PM

has anyone seen a baja run the whole con end to end?

Al Kaholick · 01-15-2004, 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by bajabug
has anyone seen a baja run the whole con end to end?

no

Simple Man · 01-15-2004, 09:16 AM

Aren't there pictures of buggies on the Rubicon on this site under the old photo section?

Rubicrawler · 01-15-2004, 09:34 AM

We ran into a group of VWbuggies (2wd of course) a few years ago up around Ellis Creek. My opinion is that they aren't trail friendly! In order to clear an obsticle, they relied upon momentum, a lot of tire spinning and, eventually, making bypasses! This one group caused a lot of damage

Just one man's experience

Danger Ranger · 01-15-2004, 01:11 PM

I agree with rubicrawler... they DON'T belong on the Con!

yeah I'm sure they could make it...

but one hahabug spinning tires from 10,000 rpm clutch drops is going to do more damage than a weekend worth crawlers.

I have nothing against the hahabugs... but use them for what they're for. We have TOO MANY issues to deal with on the Con already... please don't create another one.

cruzila · 01-15-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by bajabug
has anyone seen a baja run the whole con end to end?

HHSVRA is more baja friendly

If you want rocks they got small doses there.

RCKRATZ · 01-15-2004, 02:03 PM

I have never seen a baja bug up on the con, but about 15 years ago went on a trip with my dad and a guy showed up to do the run in a Kharman Ghia....

He didn't make it very far and turned around

bajabug · 01-16-2004, 03:51 PM

those pics are old though, and the con was more friendly back then, but I dan't wanna be in the way, that is why I asked. I don't care about breaking my car, it's the aggrevation factor I'm trying to avoid. thanx

Rockcrusher · 01-17-2004, 07:00 AM

In the late 60's and 70's, duneshooters weren't uncommon on the 'Con . . . they could make the whole trail. Don't know about the 80's and 90's 'cause I was overseas. Today, I don't think so.

Scott Jensen · 01-17-2004, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by bajabug
has anyone seen a baja run the whole con end to end?

i'm up in UC, do you have a blue bug w/ a scoop on top?

bajabug · 01-17-2004, 11:58 PM

it was a lowered car that I saved form a fate worse than death ...
........low rider!!! now it sits nice and high, and it loves mud. as soon as I get my pics compressed I'll put them up.

BEAR · 01-18-2004, 10:46 AM

I see alot of those(VW buggys)around the hundreds of miles of trails around the rubicon area, that are more user friendly but still offer a good challenge, especially in a buggy, I have seen some awesome hill climbs and fun jumps, but not on the rubicon, not only would it be miserable from being stuck, breaking, and holding other people up, but its also very hard on the trail

ROCK HUGGER · 01-18-2004, 01:02 PM

I was going to take my Baja on the Rubicon back in 1990. I decided not to because the front end is to heavy. I have taken my rail up ther a few times and it does good. it is alot lighter and it has gear reduction boxes (portals

) .
You wont have fun in a Baja on the Con, not saying it cant be done.

bajabug · 01-19-2004, 01:17 AM

I am sure I could make it but I would not want to be a road block, last time I accidentally went during the jeep jambo, talk about freeway, by the time I got to little sluice the rocks were stacked up so much I was in 4-hi, at some points I actually put it in 2-hi just to see, I don't wanna be that guy in the way, I hate that guy.

Jeepndel · 01-22-2004, 06:50 AM

Bajabug,
You sound like a smart man.

Del

ps. have you cruised all the baja sites? There's some good ones out there now. Some clubs too.

bajabug · 01-22-2004, 09:09 PM

most of those guys only go on dune and trail runs, I also like rocks and hills, I like 4x4's too, so I come here, there is alot of good info here, I like the entertainment too.

imiceman44 · 02-03-2004, 01:09 PM

Well I don't know about Baja Bugs but I have seen sand rails go up all the way to the slabs 2 years ago, they relied on a complete skided bottom and momentum, but it was so rough that they broke shock hoops and clutch broke and they ended up towed all the way out.
Not the nicest thing to have, we dragged them out for a few miles and then some friends of theirs picked up afterwards.
It can be doen but I don;t think you want to, especially for the looks you will get when not if you break.

IceMan

01-14-2004, 11:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
bajabug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26158 Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 18	baja's on the rubicon has anyone seen a baja run the whole con end to end? __________________ it's a bug, and it goes like hell 28" a/t 66 bus gear box, adjustable beam, and hacked up body "rocks be damned" oh and did I mention NO SMOG

01-15-2004, 09:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Simple Man Tahoe Side Guardian Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12635 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 741	Aren't there pictures of buggies on the Rubicon on this site under the old photo section? __________________ Doug Barr Lake Tahoe Hi-Lo's North Tahoe Trail Dusters

01-15-2004, 09:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rubicrawler Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2037 Location: Brentwood, CA 150 mi. from the 'Con Posts: 5,834	We ran into a group of VWbuggies (2wd of course) a few years ago up around Ellis Creek. My opinion is that they aren't trail friendly! In order to clear an obsticle, they relied upon momentum, a lot of tire spinning and, eventually, making bypasses! This one group caused a lot of damage Just one man's experience __________________ Mark Langford KI6TMK '86 CJ7, ProRock60's, 4.88's/Detroits/35 Spline Alloys/CTM's, TBI 350, 700R4, 4:1 D300 w/Twin Stick, 17" x 8.5" Trail Ready HD Aluminum beadlocks, 37x13.5x17 Toyo MT's Dysfunctional Rockcrawlers (TDO)

01-15-2004, 01:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Danger Ranger Driven by hate Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1234 Location: Clearlake, Ca Posts: 5,398 Blog Entries: 1	I agree with rubicrawler... they DON'T belong on the Con! yeah I'm sure they could make it... but one hahabug spinning tires from 10,000 rpm clutch drops is going to do more damage than a weekend worth crawlers. I have nothing against the hahabugs... but use them for what they're for. We have TOO MANY issues to deal with on the Con already... please don't create another one. __________________ You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!

01-15-2004, 02:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
RCKRATZ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2485 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 2,966	I have never seen a baja bug up on the con, but about 15 years ago went on a trip with my dad and a guy showed up to do the run in a Kharman Ghia.... He didn't make it very far and turned around __________________ Keith Ratzburg aka "El Rolo" Friends of Fordyce-Director Last edited by RCKRATZ; 01-15-2004 at 02:04 PM.

01-16-2004, 03:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
bajabug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26158 Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 18	thank you those pics are old though, and the con was more friendly back then, but I dan't wanna be in the way, that is why I asked. I don't care about breaking my car, it's the aggrevation factor I'm trying to avoid. thanx __________________ it's a bug, and it goes like hell 28" a/t 66 bus gear box, adjustable beam, and hacked up body "rocks be damned" oh and did I mention NO SMOG

01-17-2004, 07:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rockcrusher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1372 Location: Just east of Tahoe Posts: 1,514	In the late 60's and 70's, duneshooters weren't uncommon on the 'Con . . . they could make the whole trail. Don't know about the 80's and 90's 'cause I was overseas. Today, I don't think so. __________________ Rockcrusher I've already been to hell . . . Anything more is a minor inconvenience!!

01-17-2004, 11:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
bajabug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26158 Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 18	no, it's primer w/ red flames it was a lowered car that I saved form a fate worse than death ... ........low rider!!! now it sits nice and high, and it loves mud. as soon as I get my pics compressed I'll put them up. __________________ it's a bug, and it goes like hell 28" a/t 66 bus gear box, adjustable beam, and hacked up body "rocks be damned" oh and did I mention NO SMOG

01-18-2004, 10:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
BEAR Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1746 Location: Colfax CA Posts: 3,565	I see alot of those(VW buggys)around the hundreds of miles of trails around the rubicon area, that are more user friendly but still offer a good challenge, especially in a buggy, I have seen some awesome hill climbs and fun jumps, but not on the rubicon, not only would it be miserable from being stuck, breaking, and holding other people up, but its also very hard on the trail __________________ Still Politically Uncorrect

01-18-2004, 01:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
ROCK HUGGER Rock God Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4329 Location: Jackson CA Posts: 2,389	I was going to take my Baja on the Rubicon back in 1990. I decided not to because the front end is to heavy. I have taken my rail up ther a few times and it does good. it is alot lighter and it has gear reduction boxes (portals ) . You wont have fun in a Baja on the Con, not saying it cant be done.

01-19-2004, 01:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
bajabug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26158 Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 18	oh really now I am sure I could make it but I would not want to be a road block, last time I accidentally went during the jeep jambo, talk about freeway, by the time I got to little sluice the rocks were stacked up so much I was in 4-hi, at some points I actually put it in 2-hi just to see, I don't wanna be that guy in the way, I hate that guy. __________________ it's a bug, and it goes like hell 28" a/t 66 bus gear box, adjustable beam, and hacked up body "rocks be damned" oh and did I mention NO SMOG

01-22-2004, 06:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jeepndel Land Use Zeus Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 3982 Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA, USA Posts: 2,584	Bajabug, You sound like a smart man. Del ps. have you cruised all the baja sites? There's some good ones out there now. Some clubs too. __________________ Del Albright BlueRibbon Coalition Ambassador Co-Founder, Friends of the Rubicon (FOTR) Building an Access Army to Fight Back -- SOLDIER UP Follow the Trail Tours TAPT

01-22-2004, 09:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
bajabug Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26158 Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 18	I know but....... most of those guys only go on dune and trail runs, I also like rocks and hills, I like 4x4's too, so I come here, there is alot of good info here, I like the entertainment too. __________________ it's a bug, and it goes like hell 28" a/t 66 bus gear box, adjustable beam, and hacked up body "rocks be damned" oh and did I mention NO SMOG

02-03-2004, 01:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
imiceman44 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17568 Location: Sacramento/ Lincoln, CA Posts: 1,659	Well I don't know about Baja Bugs but I have seen sand rails go up all the way to the slabs 2 years ago, they relied on a complete skided bottom and momentum, but it was so rough that they broke shock hoops and clutch broke and they ended up towed all the way out. Not the nicest thing to have, we dragged them out for a few miles and then some friends of theirs picked up afterwards. It can be doen but I don;t think you want to, especially for the looks you will get when not if you break. IceMan

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