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Old 04-30-2017, 12:24 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Good visual on snow depth Tahoe side
Will be interesting to see how long till its clear of snow
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:32 PM   #102 (permalink)
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There's no rush though I am relieved we took the snow load off at least one vehicle. In many ways conditions are better for a recovery now as the storms have passed and the trail will likely get worse with the warm temps before it completely melts away. Also, one cool thing I've discovered having spent a little time with Scott, Tim and Jim is that there are experienced wheelers out there who actually prefer the snow to hot, dusty trails or big rock climbs (they do that too), and they're really well equipped to do so...unlike yahoos like me and my son. Add to that the challenge of recovering a stranded vehicle makes it even more compelling for them. Yes I'd like my rigs back ASAP but honestly I'm taking the advice from the snow wheelers I've met and let them dictate what's doable and when.
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:33 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Getting groceries on my quad is getting really old...
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Old 04-30-2017, 02:22 PM   #104 (permalink)
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There's no rush though I am relieved we took the snow load off at least one vehicle. In many ways conditions are better for a recovery now as the storms have passed and the trail will likely get worse with the warm temps before it completely melts away. Also, one cool thing I've discovered having spent a little time with Scott, Tim and Jim is that there are experienced wheelers out there who actually prefer the snow to hot, dusty trails or big rock climbs (they do that too), and they're really well equipped to do so...unlike yahoos like me and my son. Add to that the challenge of recovering a stranded vehicle makes it even more compelling for them. Yes I'd like my rigs back ASAP but honestly I'm taking the advice from the snow wheelers I've met and let them dictate what's doable and when.
Snow wheelin is popular up here, many guys run 47-54" tires and do 80% of thier wheelin in the snow.

I used to hate it, in fact the worst trips I've had by far were snow runs, but also the most fun trips have also been in the snow. A huge factor is snow conditions, it litteray changes every day and from night to day as well. Another thing most people don't realize is that driver skill is a much bigger factor than say rock crawling down a trail. Take a capable rig with 40"+ tires and damn near anyone could drive it through Rubicon or fordyce. Not the case in the snow, too much air pressure or too much throttle in certain conditions and even a rig on 44s can be passes by a good driver on 35 who knows to drop down below 4 psi.

If I wasn't working so much, I would have liked to come up there to help.
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:15 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Doug basically outlined our whole day, so not really very much to add other than everyone had to winch 2 to 3 times just to get into the site. And a few more times on the way out, trail conditions were perfect!! Lots of dangerous tank traps that could put you down in a hole on your side at any moment. I've got lots of pictures but they don't really give you the whole picture. I picked a few, if you want more I've got 'em. Even with multiple broken winch lines, scratches from downed trees, I think we all had a good time. Regarding the previous comment about our lack of proper tools, we had 3 snow shovels, standard spade and square point, plus Jim (the smart one) brought his wife's gardening shovel.

#1) Meet Doug
#2) Scott dropping into one of the many holes
#3) Jim showing the depth of the snow
#4) Matt sliding into the trees
#5) If you look close in the middle of the pic, you can see Jim's wife's white tomato shovel, lol!
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:18 PM   #106 (permalink)
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#1) Scott setting up for our first pull
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#3) All lines doubled up
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:29 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Doug asked me to put these up for him. Nice work guys! Impressive








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Old 04-30-2017, 03:30 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Love pictures, thanks!

I work on Sundays but would love to make next weekend. What day are you guys planning on heading in?
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Old 04-30-2017, 05:22 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Great job guys. What happened with the big tree across the trail east of the rig?
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Old 04-30-2017, 05:54 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Weight of snow cubic foot:
"The weight of snow varies greatly. Light fluffy snow may only weigh about seven pounds per cubic foot. More average snow may weigh 15 pounds per cubic foot and drifted compacted snow may weigh 20 pounds or more".

I'm assuming we shoveled "average" snow at 15 lbs per cubic foot (note reference I found online). Although the deeper we dug the more compact the snow was. So calculating the rough area (8x12x12) I get approximately 1152 cu. ft. = 17,280 lbs. or 8.64 tons +/-.

I was wondering why I can't stand up straight today. Bet everyone else is popping the Doans today too.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:40 PM   #111 (permalink)
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The big question is did you guy's get it out of that hole and up on top of the snow ?
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:00 PM   #112 (permalink)
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My word! I dont think I've ever seen snow that deep O.O
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:39 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Amazing work, job, and pictures. Congratulations to everyone.

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Old 04-30-2017, 09:43 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Hopefully that hole doesn't act as a pool and start to fill with water as the surrounding snow begins to melt

Crazy amounts of snow, impressive to see what you guys did
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:55 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Awesome. Heard about this recovery on instajunk.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:57 PM   #116 (permalink)
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The big question is did you guy's get it out of that hole and up on top of the snow ?
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:29 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Best thread on here in a long time!
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Old 05-01-2017, 06:45 AM   #118 (permalink)
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you guys are a bunch of Bad Asses,nice job
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Beyond impressive work, and pictures guys. Keep them coming!
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:48 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Of course....the amount of snow shoveled was BAD ASSERY....I'm guessing Tim's math is conservative, given Sierra Cement snow.

What caught my eye......is Doug dug down 8 FEET ON A HUNCH just find the rig!! Unreal.

Doug, I'm glad you got in touch with Jeff, even if he didn't go.
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WOW those are some impressive photos! Nice job guys!
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Perfect timing for a spring snow storm to come and cover everything back up again.
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Perfect timing for a spring snow storm to come and cover everything back up again.
Gawd I hope we're done. I've had enough snow this year!
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Unbelievable! Great pics. I love snow. I wish I was out there to help you guys.
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Being in South Carolina this amazes me. Most I've ever seen was about 12" when I was a kid and 15" when I lived in Chattanooga in the late 80's. Hope it gets out soon and please share pictures!
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