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Old 05-15-2017, 08:10 PM   #176 (permalink)
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What radios are you using?


Two rigs had mobile units, I was using my FT-60r. A few others had baofengs


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Old 05-15-2017, 08:37 PM   #177 (permalink)
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Two rigs had mobile units, I was using my FT-60r. A few others had baofengs


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Old 05-15-2017, 09:02 PM   #178 (permalink)
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But then I wouldn't have been able to ride to the top of the mountain haha... this recovery has been a lot of work, got to have some fun sometime!


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Old 05-16-2017, 01:51 AM   #179 (permalink)
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I'll try not to clog up this thread to much with this debate, I hear what you are saying, however, most times I see rzr's in the snow, the drivers are clueless. They're running normal tire pressure and trying to throttle though everything. I pulled one out last Saturday. He was stuck in the packed ruts, as soon as I pulled him back, he floored it and buried it again....

Maybe the snow is softer down that way, but once we got up to about 6k feet the snow was hard enough that I could take my 4runner on 37s almost anywhere but the steep climbs. I know guys who ride 2wd sport quads in the snow this time of year...........

I realize the tracks aren't going to limit the capability when you're on deep snow, but I have to wonder if a good set of tires on the same quad could do just as well?
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Imagine airing down times 10. Doesn't matter how good your tires are, you will never come close to the the contact area that a track gives you. There is a point of course where tracks may limit you when traction becomes more optimal but in a recovery case such as this I don't think the horsepower to the ground loss of the tracks is an issue at all.

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How are the tracks doing in this snow? I always figured tires had a slight advantage this time of year.
There is no contest.....Tracks beat tires with a stick. The only thing you need to watch for, is to make sure the tracks don't submarine trees and holes, because this will break your anti-rotation bar.

With tracks, you've effectively increased the footprint on the snow by close to 10, thus reducing your pounds per square a lot.
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Good points. Also don't forget. The tracked ATVs are what finally pulled the jeep from the hole... Would have never happened with tires. As I mentioned previously, it's nice to have a couple rigs that you don't have to worry about
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:19 AM   #183 (permalink)
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How are the tracks doing in this snow? I always figured tires had a slight advantage this time of year.
These photos are from Dec 30, just before Doug "lost" his rigs. We went to Miller Lake to fish.

We tried to reach Richardson Lake, but aired down I only made it about 1/2 way to Richardson. There was no chance to climb that hill.

The Quad on tracks, is my old ATV that Jeff now owns. He went up and down that hill without any issues, off trail, around trees, through soft stuff, up to Richardson, then back..Meanwhile I was trying to crawl up a small hill for 30 minutes.

It was no contest.

You can even look at the photos...the RZR is at wheel level in the snow....the Quad is down about 1" or so.
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I guess I'm not being clear, I'm not talking about tracks vs tires in December powder, flotation is king there, like you guys said, no contest.

I'm talking right now, spring snow. I'm not sure about the Rubicon, but our snow is hard enough to support a ~4200 lb rig on 37s no problem, so I would think a quad with some flexible ~30x11 tires would float great.

When we go up, we are running over downed trees, sticks, rocks, creek crossings, tree holes, ect. This where I would worry about the tracks. I could be way wrong though, do you guys stop and clear trees and sticks often, or just go around?

Like I said, I know people who ride sport quads this time of year, I don't see how a 4wd quad couldn't go anywhere you wanted.

Not trying to bash here, as I'm very curious about tracks, advantages and disadvantages alike.
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Yeah Doug and I use the same track, it is a 4 season capable design made by Camoplast. It is just as happy buzzing across a rock stream bed as it is floating over bottomless powder. Just like all types of wheeling, your day on the trail is determined by how well you pick lines while crossing terrain. It is well worth it for us to have to cut a branch or two so that we can afford to ride anywhere we want on the trail. We don't make ruts, we don't tear up the ground, and we can ride up to the tops of the surrounding mountains to scout the trail or ensure thorough radio communications... I have a few sets of tires for my ATV in the garage, and they're staying there until a shit ton more snow melts
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For what it's worth in current conditions the fastest time any wheeled rigs made it out was 3 hours. My fastest time on tracks from the first rig to the street in same conditions was a little over half an hour....solo. The last time I went in solo in a wheeled rig it took four months to get out
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:52 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Thank you so much for the posts and pictures!
I and many others check it every day.
I would say I wish I was there, but I hate that white stuff.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:14 PM   #188 (permalink)
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I wish I could have been there...

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Driving Line Magazine just posted a nice article about our recovery effort on their website....check it out:

http://www.drivingline.com/articles/...n-the-rubicon/
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Very nicely done article. Really sends the message of teamwork and community.
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