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jeeplvr · 08-08-2004, 12:56 PM

And I must say I think it's the cleanest I have ever seen it, including the loon lake area.
We camped at Bucks and the area was very clean considering all the people camped there. Almost everyone had toilets compared to last year when no one had toilets.
I handed out a few of the new FOTR stickers and people seemed appreciative and were very aware of the problems on the trail. My relatives from Colorado were also very aware of the “new order” on the trail.

We also walked around the little sluice and didn’t see any trash to speak of, just 1 water bottle that we picked up.

We saw 2 broke down rigs that had been left on the trail for some time, a land rover and a land cruiser. The cruiser had a busted pinion and the rover had a completely destroyed front suspension. Good new is we also met both owners and they were on their way back in with parts and were doing their best to retrieve their rigs ASAP.

From all the people we met on the trail it looks like the word is getting out that we may loose this trail if we don't step up. The attitudes of the wheelers were vastly different than the last time we were up there.
Keep up the good work people, it's working.

Jeepndel · 08-08-2004, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jeeplvr

From all the people we met on the trail it looks like the word is getting out that we may loose this trail if we don't step up. The attitudes of the wheelers were vastly different than the last time we were up there.
Keep up the good work people, it's working.

Now, THAT is a good report to hear.
thanks, del

cruzila · 08-09-2004, 07:37 AM

Amen

tbone420 · 08-09-2004, 10:25 PM

we were up there last weekend and were suprised that it was so clean......and so few jack a$$es... we ran into a group of guys that were pissed that they got tickets, for open containers and going off the trail. they said they dont want to come back...... it was the greatest thing iv heard in a long time!! i think the sherifs are doing alot of good!!

Rubicrawler · 08-09-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tbone420

we ran into a group of guys that were pissed that they got tickets, for open containers and going off the trail. they said they dont want to come back......

That's works for me. LE does make an impact

tacomamike · 08-09-2004, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubicrawler

That's works for me. LE does make an impact

The forest service chick we were talking with at Spider Lake seemed like a very reasonable person. I am convinced that anyone getting a citation up there had to go really far out of their way to earn it.

Later,
....Mike
http://www.toy4x4.net/

BrettM · 08-10-2004, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tbone420

we were up there last weekend and were suprised that it was so clean......and so few jack a$$es... we ran into a group of guys that were pissed that they got tickets, for open containers and going off the trail. they said they dont want to come back...... it was the greatest thing iv heard in a long time!! i think the sherifs are doing alot of good!!

welndmn · 08-10-2004, 09:47 AM

I agree, I saw a ticket written for an open contaier as well.
Glad to hear its still so clean, we worked really hard last weekend.

REDNECK350 · 08-10-2004, 12:04 PM

Just wondering, so is spider lake open, Or still closed

SlowMo · 08-10-2004, 12:15 PM

Spider Lake area is still closed to public access, but the trail is open. It's the area to the south of the trail that is closed.

Rubicrawler · 08-10-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowMo

Spider Lake area is still closed to public access, but the trail is open. It's the area to the south of the trail that is closed.

Yep. Closed through Nov. 10th.

k5chevyblazer · 08-10-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tbone420

they said they dont want to come back...... it was the greatest thing iv heard in a long time!! i think the sherifs are doing alot of good!!

No doubt, HEY A$$HATS KEEP AWAY FROM THE RUBICON. Because if it gets closed down, I'll have to explain to my son WHY it is closed, then I'll have to track you down in 20 years, by then my son, Austin will be big enough to whoop on your decrepted butt.

If you want to party, go somewhere else.

supernatural · 08-10-2004, 02:36 PM

just curious, but what is the exact rule on open containers on the trail / camping? absolutely NO open containers?

Lil' Rich · 08-10-2004, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by supernatural

just curious, but what is the exact rule on open containers on the trail / camping? absolutely NO open containers?

In or about the vehicle, they are writing to the Calif. vehicle code...........

Rich

Disco · 08-10-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by supernatural

just curious, but what is the exact rule on open containers on the trail / camping? absolutely NO open containers?

No open containers in the vehicle. Easy as that!!!! I actually saw a guy get a warning when he was chatting with us(30 feet from his vehicle) and his beer was in his rig on the trail.

k5chevyblazer · 08-10-2004, 03:04 PM

Just like if you were on any other road or highway.

MochaMike · 08-10-2004, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Disco

No open containers in the vehicle. Easy as that!!!! I actually saw a guy get a warning when he was chatting with us(30 feet from his vehicle) and his beer was in his rig on the trail.

Man, I was so thirsty this weekend as a passenger.
I had to get out & walk way too many times!
But it was worth it in the end, I got to drink my beer (while walking/resting), ride the (still open) trail, and some exercise to boot (on top of picking up poo!)

k5chevyblazer · 08-10-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MochaMike

Man, I was so thirsty this weekend as a passenger.
I had to get out & walk way too many times!
But it was worth it in the end, I got to drink my beer (while walking/resting), ride the (still open) trail, and some exercise to boot (on top of picking up poo!)

I know you didnt have to walk at all on the way in, we hauled butt into Spider. The only reason you were thirsty is because I wouldn't stop for a

break.

YellowSub1962 · 08-10-2004, 06:40 PM

I believe the law was expanded a few years back to include any/all forms of motorized vehicles in any atmosphere (land, water, air - ie - vehicles, boats, planes etc)

regardless of the wording on that expansion though, the rubicon is an county road, treat the laws like you would on the street

MochaMike · 08-10-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by k5chevyblazer

I know you didnt have to walk at all on the way in, we hauled butt into Spider. The only reason you were thirsty is because I wouldn't stop for a

break.

In case I forgot to say it...... THANKS!

k5chevyblazer · 08-11-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MochaMike

In case I forgot to say it...... THANKS!

No problem, anytime.

NOTPRETTY · 08-11-2004, 06:47 PM

The open container deal is...nothing in the car. But having met the enforcement people several times and seen them address people doing this very thing...all you have to do is not be stumbling drunk and most importantly...don't be a jerk. Be respectful and and do whatever they say. If you do that, even appologize, say you won't do it again.... you most likely (I would guarentee it but...) will be fine.

08-08-2004, 12:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
jeeplvr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1999 Location: Reno NV USA Posts: 710	Just got back from the Con. And I must say I think it's the cleanest I have ever seen it, including the loon lake area. We camped at Bucks and the area was very clean considering all the people camped there. Almost everyone had toilets compared to last year when no one had toilets. I handed out a few of the new FOTR stickers and people seemed appreciative and were very aware of the problems on the trail. My relatives from Colorado were also very aware of the “new order” on the trail. We also walked around the little sluice and didn’t see any trash to speak of, just 1 water bottle that we picked up. We saw 2 broke down rigs that had been left on the trail for some time, a land rover and a land cruiser. The cruiser had a busted pinion and the rover had a completely destroyed front suspension. Good new is we also met both owners and they were on their way back in with parts and were doing their best to retrieve their rigs ASAP. From all the people we met on the trail it looks like the word is getting out that we may loose this trail if we don't step up. The attitudes of the wheelers were vastly different than the last time we were up there. Keep up the good work people, it's working. __________________ {Gramma from Squidbillies} Lets put coughdrops in our buttholes and play viddy games! Last edited by jeeplvr; 08-08-2004 at 01:00 PM.

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08-09-2004, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
tbone420 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17874 Location: American Canyon, CA Posts: 262	we were up there last weekend and were suprised that it was so clean......and so few jack a$$es... we ran into a group of guys that were pissed that they got tickets, for open containers and going off the trail. they said they dont want to come back...... it was the greatest thing iv heard in a long time!! i think the sherifs are doing alot of good!! __________________ '89 zuk -locked toys- 37s- and stuff -lots of dents why do i insist on rolling this thing?

08-10-2004, 09:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
welndmn Well Done Man! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 398 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 17,434 Blog Entries: 3	I agree, I saw a ticket written for an open contaier as well. Glad to hear its still so clean, we worked really hard last weekend. __________________ Mark 71 Bronco. 42's and bolt on goats. 47' CJ2a, 302, C4, 33's. 2012, year of the flat fender.

08-10-2004, 12:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
REDNECK350 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25244 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 216	Just wondering, so is spider lake open, Or still closed __________________ "Life aint worth shit if you dont ever try something people say cant be done"

08-10-2004, 12:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
SlowMo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26623 Location: Cameron Park, CA Posts: 526	Spider Lake area is still closed to public access, but the trail is open. It's the area to the south of the trail that is closed. __________________ This Jeep sponsered by the IRS and my tax refund.

08-10-2004, 02:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
supernatural Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27390 Location: crawlorado Posts: 739	just curious, but what is the exact rule on open containers on the trail / camping? absolutely NO open containers? __________________ [COLOR="Red"]"In vino, veritas"[/COLOR]

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YellowSub1962 108" Smurfmobile Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1494 Location: The Land Of The Free, Thanks To The Brave! Posts: 8,266	I believe the law was expanded a few years back to include any/all forms of motorized vehicles in any atmosphere (land, water, air - ie - vehicles, boats, planes etc) regardless of the wording on that expansion though, the rubicon is an county road, treat the laws like you would on the street __________________ Peter S. Di Primo PSD Enterprises, LLC - Waterjet, laser, metal forming, CNC work, Fiberglass and Carbon work, patterns and molds. No job too small. Prototyping and small production is our specialty, but we have the network to handle large jobs as well. Email me if you need something cut, bent, formed, milled, machined, etc. Founding Member - VCAS4WDC www.axlesnappers.org Help Fight Global Warming- turn your A/C on high and open all your windows. Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store - NOT a government agency!!!!

08-11-2004, 06:47 PM	#22 (permalink)
NOTPRETTY Rock God Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13482 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,465	The open container deal is...nothing in the car. But having met the enforcement people several times and seen them address people doing this very thing...all you have to do is not be stumbling drunk and most importantly...don't be a jerk. Be respectful and and do whatever they say. If you do that, even appologize, say you won't do it again.... you most likely (I would guarentee it but...) will be fine. __________________ Just go... Passionately centerist. We're slowly being killed by the far left and far right.

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