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resqme 05-23-2011 10:14 AM

Tahoe Ham Frequency change
 
Hey hams, the output frequency on the Tahoe repeater that is linked to the 805 has changed...

It is an “odd split”, meaning that the new repeater doesn’t follow the standard band plan with a 600 kc split.

So the new frequency is:

145.350 (repeater transmitter), odd split to 146.205 (repeater receiver), PL123.0

I know this is confusing to some, but it is what it is!

Hopefully you can all get it figured out.

patjeepyj 05-23-2011 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by resqme (Post 12922872)
Hey hams, the output frequency on the Tahoe repeater that is linked to the 805 has changed...

It is an “odd split”, meaning that the new repeater doesn’t follow the standard band plan with a 600 kc split.

So the new frequency is:

145.530 (repeater transmitter), odd split to 146.205 (repeater receiver), PL123.0

I know this is confusing to some, but it is what it is!

Hopefully you can all get it figured out.

So we will transmit on 146.205 and recieve on 145.350?

Yota Up 05-23-2011 04:42 PM

Aw, man. I gotta dig out the manual for this FT60.

I know it's "FW", then "set", but I can't remember which option lets you change/edit the frequency of an already stored entry.

If I get it right, I'll post step by step for everyone else.

resqme 05-23-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patjeepyj (Post 12924481)
So we will transmit on 146.205 and recieve on 145.350?

You got it right, Pat!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yota Up (Post 12924659)
If I get it right, I'll post step by step for everyone else.

Hint: You'll need to look at the section on "Storing Independent Transmit Frequencies ("Odd Splits")" in the manual, page 28. I offer my sincere congrats to the first person that figures this out. If I see you on the trail and you need it done, ask Barb :flipoff2:

CJ 05-23-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Yota Up (Post 12924659)
Aw, man. I gotta dig out the manual for this FT60.

I know it's "FW", then "set", but I can't remember which option lets you change/edit the frequency of an already stored entry.

If I get it right, I'll post step by step for everyone else.

this worked for me

Tune to 805TAH “memory #2 on my radio
v/m to get out of memory mode
enter in 145.350
push and hold F/W for 1 sec
rotate dial knob to memory #2 “do it quick”
hold PTT and press F/W until it says memory in
V/M to go back to memory mode and your done

Then I did this with a file a Birdie sent me just to be sure:D

bkcruiser 05-23-2011 07:03 PM

John, which frequency is it?

you posted 145.530, also sent me an email with the same number.

the following posts here are 145.350 ?

the first one would be a 675 shift, the second a 855 ?

thanks

I can enter both tx and rx in the memory, just want to be sure which it is.

for those that need help on the programing, or don't have their manual.

28 FT-60R OPERATING MANUAL
MEMORY STORAGE
1. Select the desired frequency, while operating in the VFO mode. Be sure to set up any
desired CTCSS or DCS tones, as well as any desired repeater offset. The power level
may also be set at this time, if you wish to store it.
2. Press and hold in the [F/W] key for one second.
3. Within five seconds of releasing the [F/W] key, you need to make a decision regarding
channel storage. The microprocessor will automatically select the next-available “free”
channel (a memory register on which no data has been stored), so you may not wish to
make any change; if this is the case, proceed to step 4. If you wish to select a different
channel number into which to store the data, rotate the DIAL knob to select the desired
memory channel. You may jump 100 memory channels, if you’re in a hurry (101
1
201 301 …) by pressing the [BAND(BAND DN)] key (multiple times, if necessary).
4. Press the [F/W] key once more to store the frequency into memory.
5. You still will be operating in the “VFO” mode, so you may now enter other frequencies,
and store them into additional memory locations, by repeating the above process.
Storing Independent Transmit Frequencies (“Odd Splits”)
All memories can store an independent transmit frequency, for operation on repeaters with
non-standard shift. To do this:
1. Store the receive frequency using the method already described under MEMORY
STORAGE (it doesn’t matter if a repeater offset is active).
2. Tune to the desired transmit frequency, then press and hold in the [F/W] key for one
second.
3. Within five seconds of releasing the [F/W] key, rotate the DIAL knob to select the
same memory channel number as used in step “1” above.
4. Press and hold in the PTT switch, then press the [F/W] key once more momentarily
while holding the PTT switch in (this does not key the transmitter).
Whenever you recall a memory which contains independently -stored transmit and receive frequencies, both the
the “+ “ and “ - “ indications will appear in the display.

chexmix 05-23-2011 07:57 PM

Thanks for the update, sux if have to search for it when your on the trail.

resqme 05-23-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkcruiser (Post 12925348)
John, which frequency is it?

Doh :homer:

The correct freq is 145.350, sorry about that!

cmarjeep 05-24-2011 12:29 AM

What was the reason for the switch? Was it interfering with another station? Just curious.

Thanks for the info though. I'll have to go change it tomorrow.

resqme 05-24-2011 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmarjeep (Post 12926457)
What was the reason for the switch? Was it interfering with another station? Just curious.

Thanks for the info though. I'll have to go change it tomorrow.

That was the bottom line. There was another station in the bay area (San Mateo somewhere) that it was co-channeled with for years. Never was a problem, but the owner of the San Mateo machine found out that the Tahoe machine existed without sanction and made a stink. Easiest thing for Frank to do was just change it. Creates the hassle of this "odd split" thing, but it is what it is.

Yota Up 06-13-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ (Post 12925290)
this worked for me

Tune to 805TAH “memory #2 on my radio
v/m to get out of memory mode
enter in 145.350
push and hold F/W for 1 sec
rotate dial knob to memory #2 “do it quick”
hold PTT and press F/W until it says memory in
V/M to go back to memory mode and your done

That makes me transmit on 145.350 and still leaves the receive on 145.605.

So I'm going to redo those steps above, but using 146.205 instead(since those steps set the TX).
Then, redo the same steps with 145.350, but at the end AVOID pushing PTT, but only FW(to set the RX).

Finally, push FW, then 0(set), dial over to TN FREQ, and set it to 123.

I *think* I'm done. :)

WU6X 07-01-2011 08:41 AM

Can't seem to hit it and I could the old pair. Just to clarify, the repeater INPUT is 146.205? I'm used to reading repeater "input" and "output" ... sorry, old school I guess. Hope all that head up have a ball this weekend ... My Son will be there and was hoping to monitor. 73, WU6X

resqme 07-03-2011 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WU6X (Post 13074521)
Can't seem to hit it and I could the old pair. Just to clarify, the repeater INPUT is 146.205? I'm used to reading repeater "input" and "output" ... sorry, old school I guess. Hope all that head up have a ball this weekend ... My Son will be there and was hoping to monitor. 73, WU6X

OK, I'll try to change the wording...

The repeater's frequencies:

Receive: 146.205
Transmit: 145.350
Decode PL-123.0

Your mobile/portable frequencies:

Receive 145.350
Transmit:: 146.205
Encode PL - 123.0

Hope this helps!

jon bachelder 07-03-2011 07:20 PM

Cannot get my Yaesu FT-2800m to accept this. I've spent an hour with the manual (odd splits) with no luck. This is not the first time the manual has been wrong, so if anyone with an FT-2800 has figured this out please let me know how you did it.
TIA

pismojim 07-07-2011 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon bachelder (Post 13081061)
Cannot get my Yaesu FT-2800m to accept this. I've spent an hour with the manual (odd splits) with no luck. This is not the first time the manual has been wrong, so if anyone with an FT-2800 has figured this out please let me know how you did it.
TIA

Jon, the manual's procedure on page 23 worked for me. Store the receive 145.350 mhz in memory as usual. Then enter the transmit 146.205 mhz and save it to memory the same way,

EXCEPT before the last press of the D/MR(MW) button, press and hold the PTT while you press the D/MR(MW) button

My troubles usually stem from not pressing the button momentarily, one second, or holding as directed.

(My Icom HT seems to be working also, completely different process of course. Different brands => glutton for punishment. ):shaking:

Hope that helps,
Good luck

jon bachelder 07-07-2011 06:05 AM

Hey Jim,
I did hold the ptt down while pressing on the D/MR button. Nothing happens. I made sure the mic wasn't locked and tried it several times. A google search found a couple other guys with the same problem on ft-2800s.
So I ordered the cable and am going to get the software to program both my 2800s which is what I should have done a couple years ago. :shaking:

You going to Rubithon?


Quote:

Originally Posted by pismojim (Post 13092502)
Jon, the manual's procedure on page 23 worked for me. Store the receive 145.350 mhz in memory as usual. Then enter the transmit 146.205 mhz and save it to memory the same way,

EXCEPT before the last press of the D/MR(MW) button, press and hold the PTT while you press the D/MR(MW) button

My troubles usually stem from not pressing the button momentarily, one second, or holding as directed.

(My Icom HT seems to be working also, completely different process of course. Different brands => glutton for punishment. ):shaking:

Hope that helps,
Good luck


pismojim 07-07-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon bachelder (Post 13092739)
You going to Rubithon?

Yep, heading up this Sunday for a week on the trail. :D

jon bachelder 07-07-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pismojim (Post 13094017)
Yep, heading up this Sunday for a week on the trail. :D

P.M.ed you.

NorCalPR 07-20-2011 11:40 PM

Just put in the frequencies in my FT-7800. Thanks for the heads up!

Here's the part form the manual of the 7800:

Quote:

Storing Independent Transmit Frequencies (“Odd Splits”)
1. Store the receiving frequency using the method already described.
2. Turn to the desired transmit frequency, then press and hold in the [V/M(MW)] key for
1/2 second.
3. Within ten seconds of pressing the [V/M(MW)] key, use the DIAL knob or microphone’s
[UP]/[DWN] buttons to select the same memory channel number as used in step 1 above.
4. Press and hold in the PTT switch, then pressing and holding the [V/M(MW)] key for
1/2 second while holding the PTT switch to save the entry and exit to normal operation.
This will not cause transmission; instead, it signals the microprocessor that a separate
transmit frequency is being programmed into that memory register.
-Phill
W6FTW

patjeepyj 07-29-2011 10:11 PM

thanks BK Cruiser!! Couldn't have done that with just the FT60 manual!

jbxx 08-15-2011 04:04 PM

805 seemed to work just fine for me this last weekend (8/12,13).
All the old settings.
Went in with Harold for a day from Wentworth to Loon.
First trip in, what a gas! I think I'm hooked! So much to unlearn.
J.B. AD6WX and Dillon KI6BNP

resqme 08-15-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbxx (Post 13248483)
805 seemed to work just fine for me this last weekend (8/12,13). All the old settings.

Yup, on the West Slope side nothing has changed, it's the tahoe repeater (the one that works in the basin and the very east end of the trail and links to the west slope repeater) that has changed.

NorCalPR 08-15-2011 05:38 PM

Yeah, last time I was up, I tried hitting the repeater with the old freq's. It didn't work. The new Freq's worked just fine :)

jbxx 08-15-2011 06:44 PM

Thanks for the clarification <sp?>
J.B. AD6WX

randii 09-03-2011 01:54 AM

thank god for my FT-60 programmer and cable, I don't think I would have gotten there without it!

Randii


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