Asking for help for a double-secret project: Place names - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Kurtuleas · 07-26-2011, 08:55 PM

I am working with someone on a SUPER COOL, DOUBLE SECRET land-use benefiting project. (Don't even ask, but trust me, everyone will LOVE this.) We HOPE to unveil this at the Cantina...but I am not 100% sure we can do this by then without other peoples help.

Here's what I am asking for:

1. PLACE NAMES ON THE RUBICON.

The name of the obstacles or places of interest on the trail. The problem here is that I know of a few places that have several different names, so please include all the variants. I need the LOCATION of the place on the trail, and a PICTURE of it if possible. (we will not use your picture for anything other than to identify it and give us an idea.)

Even if you think it's a common place or name (Gatekeeper, Little Sluice, soup bowl, Old sluice, indian Trail, Buck island etc...) Please list it.

GPS cords. would also be PIMP if you have them.. but location does not have to be EXACT.

2. Names of important Rubicon Regulars and clubs that you think should be regonised in some way. (Dennis Meyer, Mark Smith, FOTR, RTF etc.)

If anything, we will have a solid thread on pirate that categorizes all the spots on the Rubicon.

EDIT: Here is a large map that I numbered and uploaded to an old website of mine:

http://www.kurtuleas.com/numberedmap.jpg

I know it does not show from Big Sluice to the springs... but what I did was NUMBER the trail. There's numbers 1-38 or so from the spillway to buck (and a few on the top right at caddy.

Then I numbered in thru wentworth (ww1 to ww11)

AND I numbered what I *THINK* is the orginal trail with OST 1-4 (OST for Old School Trail)

If you post a place in this thread, PLEASE post up the corrasponding number on the map.

Kurtuleas · 07-26-2011, 09:12 PM

I think it may be good to put place names in order.

Ignoring WW becuase I don't know that way as well, and just pulling names otta my head, here's what I got so far. (I know i will be missing a lot here) Please plug in names where you see fit.

Kiosk
spillway
Gatekeeper
The Bowl (HWY 50)
Rock Garden
Ellis
Walker Hill
Soup Bowl (Soup kitchen)
Winter Camp (The Elbow, Pirate Camp, poser camp)
little Sluice (spider lake)
Thousand Dollar Hill
Indian Trail
Old sluice
Buck Island
Big sluice
RS Bridge
Rubicon Springs
Cadillac Hill
Inspiration Point

lightfoot · 07-26-2011, 09:39 PM

I added 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurtuleas

I think it may be good to put place names in order.

Ignoring WW becuase I don't know that way as well, and just pulling names otta my head, here's what I got so far. (I know i will be missing a lot here) Please plug in names where you see fit.

Kiosk
spillway
slabs
Gatekeeper
alligator pit
The Bowl (HWY 50)
car wash
Rock Garden
Ellis
Walker Hill
Soup Bowl (Soup kitchen)
Winter Camp (The Elbow, Pirate Camp, poser camp)
little Sluice (spider lake)
Thousand Dollar Hill
Indian Trail
Old sluice
Buck Island
Big sluice
RS Bridge
Rubicon Springs
Cadillac Hill
Inspiration Point

bagman · 07-26-2011, 09:47 PM

Anderson rock.

And I think there is an old thread about locations.

Kurtuleas · 07-26-2011, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagman

Anderson rock.

And I think there is an old thread about locations.

Where's that?

and where exactly is car wash? Is that that one little narrow spot?

bagman · 07-26-2011, 09:59 PM

Anderson rock is where the big rock is in the middle of the trail after Thousand Dollar before the Slabs, I believe. I always wondered who he was. The carwash is where the trail use to go through Buck I think. Trying to find that name thread for you.

ISDTBower · 07-26-2011, 10:10 PM

Car wash is/was the low bridge going out to Miller.
I thought it was Walker rock.
Chappie had one also.
Bottom dollar hill was a bulldozed hole just after the last rock section going out to Tahoma.

ISDTBower · 07-26-2011, 10:18 PM

http://www.rcrc4x4.com/joomla/index....d=20&Itemid=33

miguelitojeep · 07-27-2011, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagman

Anderson rock is where the big rock is in the middle of the trail after Thousand Dollar before the Slabs, I believe. I always wondered who he was. The carwash is where the trail use to go through Buck I think. Trying to find that name thread for you.

There is a plaque off to the left, coming from Loon, is this Anderson Rock?

71BRONCO71 · 07-27-2011, 09:16 AM

Where everyone parks their rigs to watch little sluice, TOYOTA ROCK or HECKLER ROCK

The WATERING HOLE Just after little sluice. The left side is shallow and the right side swallows tires whole

The inside line at the U turn going down to Big sluice, TEQUILA TURN.

I heard a Rock zombie call this BRONCO ROCK. I have even hit it taking the wrong line.

I'll find a picture of it later. but its right after the granite bowl as you start to climb up an incline. The rock is on you right hand side sicking out.
EDIT:
Found a pipc on the web. Does anyone have a pic of it dry?

This one i made up but I always call it CHILLIGANS ROCK at little sluice

Of course EGG ROCK on top of the granite bowl

Curly · 07-27-2011, 09:24 AM

"Phone Booth" One of the first places phone signal came in, doesn't seem to work anymore

. Look out at the split with the slabs and Old Sluice. Note: in the pic we are coming up the trail (Backwards)

39° 0'48.45"N
120°15'58.61"W
6691 FT

Kurtuleas · 07-27-2011, 09:33 AM

Awesome.

THANKS GUYS!

Please keep them coming!

Kurtuleas · 07-27-2011, 09:41 AM

Is there a name for this rock at Buck?

I am gunna need names coming in from wentworth from too..

Oh, even names and locations of places off the trail: uncle Toms, Crystal Basin Resort...

welndmn · 07-27-2011, 09:56 AM

auburn Jeep camp
Dirty Dozen camp

Just come hang out with Mello and I with a Map, He's old as hell and knows a lot of those things.

Kurtuleas · 07-27-2011, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welndmn

auburn Jeep camp
Dirty Dozen camp

Just come hang out with Mello and I with a Map, He's old as hell and knows a lot of those things.

Please let me know when you are heading over there...or when he is out our way. I would REALLY like to do that...

cruzila · 07-27-2011, 12:37 PM

Airport Flat Campground
Lawyer Cow Camp
McKinstry Lake
Wentworth Springs
Wentworth Springs Campground
Wentworth Slabs
Lost Sluice/Forgotten Sluice (I almost forgot!)
PostPile

Loon Lake
Kiosk
Loon Lake Spillway
Gatekeeper, Alligator Pit
The Bowl (HWY 50)
Rock Garden
Ellis Creek
FOTR Bridge
Walker Hill
Walkers Rock on Walker Hill
Phone Booth
Nobies Rock
Bench Mark
Soup Bowl/Soup Kitchen/Hells Kitchen
Winter Camp (The Elbow, Pirate Camp, poser camp)
Mud Lake
Little Sluice
Long Bypass
Spider Lake
Mechanics Camp, Pirate Camp, above LS
Thousand Dollar Hill
Lilly Pond
Arnold's Rock
Slabs, Indian Trail, Middle Sluice, Old Sluice, True Sluice, Big ol' Sluice, Flatfender Alley, Wickander Bypass all near the same place
Egg Rock two of them. One in bowl mentioned, one near Buck, Pumpkin Rock
Chappie Rock
Mechanics Camp at Buck
The Dam at Buck
Buck Island Reservoir
Gas Can Hill
Cal4 bypass of Buck Lake
Coffmans Corner
Martini Tree
Big Sluice
Big Corner Big Sluice. Tequila Turn, Bronco Rock
Squeeze Rock there were a couple but they are gone now. One is known in the Old Sluice as volkswagen rock and one was in Big Sluice pre 1991
Sawtooth
Scout Hole
Property Line
Rubicon Bridge
Gate to Stone Cabin
Mini Sluice
Heckler Hill (closed in Rubicon Springs)
Dirty Dozen camp
Back Door

Miller Mud hole
Miller Creek
Sid's Grave
Root Section
Cadillac Hill
S turn/spring
V-rock a couple of those
Little v-rock
Morris Rock, Steps above V-rock
Observation Point, Parking Lot in the sky
Dollar Hole, Bottom Dollar Hole, Carwash
Barker Trail cutoff
Barker Pass
Miller Meadows
Miller Lake
Staging Area Tahoe

I can get locations to you later. Jambo, affidavits and day job this week.

then there are all the jambo camp names.
Amo's Bar
Ice Cream Parlor
Margaritaville
Smutville
Hammerville
etc etc

Scott
edited to add some and put it in order

atvobsession · 07-27-2011, 12:38 PM

On Wentworth...

After Wentworth Springs Camp

Postpile (Waterfall -even though it's dry)
Forgotten Sluice

atvobsession · 07-27-2011, 12:41 PM

Tahoe side...

after these
U turn/spring
V-rock a couple of those
Little v-rock
Observation Point, Parking Lot in the sky

Super Tilt (it was spray painted there for decades)
Barker Pass

Snow4Phil · 07-27-2011, 12:43 PM

The steps, coming up Cadillac, Just above V rock.

Pumpkin Rock, at the bottom of the Indian trail just before the merger with Old Sluice.

S turn, just after the corner coming up Cadillac

cruzila · 07-27-2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagman

Anderson rock is where the big rock is in the middle of the trail after Thousand Dollar before the Slabs, I believe. I always wondered who he was. The carwash is where the trail use to go through Buck I think. Trying to find that name thread for you.

Do you mean Arnold's Rock?? After Mike Arnold from Arnold's for Awards and a Jamboree Director?

Curly · 07-27-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzila

Airport Flat Campground
Lawyer Cow Camp
McKinstry Lake
Wentworth Springs
Wentworth Springs Campground
Wentworth Slabs
Lost Sluice/Forgotten Sluice (I almost forgot!)
PostPile

Loon Lake
Kiosk
Loon Lake Spillway
Gatekeeper, Alligator Pit
The Bowl (HWY 50)
Rock Garden
Ellis Creek
FOTR Bridge
Walker Hill
Walkers Rock on Walker Hill
Phone Booth
Nobies Rock
Bench Mark
Soup Bowl/Soup Kitchen/Hells Kitchen
Winter Camp (The Elbow, Pirate Camp, poser camp)
Mud Lake
Little Sluice
Long Bypass
Spider Lake
Mechanics Camp, Pirate Camp, above LS
Thousand Dollar Hill
Lilly Pond
Arnold's Rock
Slabs, Indian Trail, Middle Sluice, Old Sluice, True Sluice, Big ol' Sluice, Flatfender Alley, Wickander Bypass all near the same place
Egg Rock two of them. One in bowl mentioned, one near Buck, Pumpkin Rock
Chappie Rock
Mechanics Camp at Buck
The Dam at Buck
Buck Island Reservoir
Gas Can Hill
Cal4 bypass of Buck Lake
Coffmans Corner
Martini Tree
Big Sluice
Big Corner Big Sluice. Tequila Turn, Bronco Rock
Squeeze Rock there were a couple but they are gone now. One is known in the Old Sluice as volkswagen rock and one was in Big Sluice pre 1991
Sawtooth
Scout Hole
Property Line
Rubicon Bridge
Gate to Stone Cabin
Mini Sluice
Heckler Hill (closed in Rubicon Springs)
Dirty Dozen camp
Back Door

Miller Mud hole
Miller Creek
Sid's Grave
Root Section
Cadillac Hill
S turn/spring
V-rock a couple of those
Little v-rock
Morris Rock, Steps above V-rock
Observation Point, Parking Lot in the sky
Dollar Hole, Bottom Dollar Hole, Carwash
Barker Trail cutoff
Barker Pass
Miller Meadows
Miller Lake
Staging Area Tahoe

I can get locations to you later. Jambo, affidavits and day job this week.

then there are all the jambo camp names.
Amo's Bar
Ice Cream Parlor
Margaritaville
Smutville
Hammerville
etc etc

Scott
edited to add some and put it in order

What the hey do you know pal.......

bagman · 07-27-2011, 02:48 PM

Thanks for the correction

Kurtuleas · 07-27-2011, 03:23 PM

Bad ass Scott. You of all people will over what I got in mind here. Need locations and possibly pics of all those spots though..

How.hairy is lost sluice? I have never been in there before...

bagman · 07-27-2011, 04:21 PM

Lost sluice is about a 4 out 10 for most people. For you I'd say it's 12

jimmysc13 · 07-27-2011, 04:35 PM

Whats the name of the hill just before you get to this water crossing (coming from loon to tahoe). You can go around to the right too.

Some one said it was called "heart attack hill", but i don't know is thats right

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/DSCI0262.jpg

07-26-2011, 08:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kurtuleas Team 4405 Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 8,340 Blog Entries: 1	Asking for help for a double-secret project: Place names I am working with someone on a SUPER COOL, DOUBLE SECRET land-use benefiting project. (Don't even ask, but trust me, everyone will LOVE this.) We HOPE to unveil this at the Cantina...but I am not 100% sure we can do this by then without other peoples help. Here's what I am asking for: 1. PLACE NAMES ON THE RUBICON. The name of the obstacles or places of interest on the trail. The problem here is that I know of a few places that have several different names, so please include all the variants. I need the LOCATION of the place on the trail, and a PICTURE of it if possible. (we will not use your picture for anything other than to identify it and give us an idea.) Even if you think it's a common place or name (Gatekeeper, Little Sluice, soup bowl, Old sluice, indian Trail, Buck island etc...) Please list it. GPS cords. would also be PIMP if you have them.. but location does not have to be EXACT. 2. Names of important Rubicon Regulars and clubs that you think should be regonised in some way. (Dennis Meyer, Mark Smith, FOTR, RTF etc.) If anything, we will have a solid thread on pirate that categorizes all the spots on the Rubicon. EDIT: Here is a large map that I numbered and uploaded to an old website of mine: http://www.kurtuleas.com/numberedmap.jpg I know it does not show from Big Sluice to the springs... but what I did was NUMBER the trail. There's numbers 1-38 or so from the spillway to buck (and a few on the top right at caddy. Then I numbered in thru wentworth (ww1 to ww11) AND I numbered what I THINK is the orginal trail with OST 1-4 (OST for Old School Trail) If you post a place in this thread, PLEASE post up the corrasponding number on the map. __________________ JOHNSON VALLEY PETITION #66 Last edited by Kurtuleas; 07-27-2011 at 10:20 AM.

07-26-2011, 09:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kurtuleas Team 4405 Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 8,340 Blog Entries: 1	I think it may be good to put place names in order. Ignoring WW becuase I don't know that way as well, and just pulling names otta my head, here's what I got so far. (I know i will be missing a lot here) Please plug in names where you see fit. Kiosk spillway Gatekeeper The Bowl (HWY 50) Rock Garden Ellis Walker Hill Soup Bowl (Soup kitchen) Winter Camp (The Elbow, Pirate Camp, poser camp) little Sluice (spider lake) Thousand Dollar Hill Indian Trail Old sluice Buck Island Big sluice RS Bridge Rubicon Springs Cadillac Hill Inspiration Point __________________ JOHNSON VALLEY PETITION #66

07-26-2011, 09:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
bagman Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 993 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 2,268	Anderson rock. And I think there is an old thread about locations. __________________ Rock Zombie & Marine

07-26-2011, 09:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
bagman Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 993 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 2,268	Anderson rock is where the big rock is in the middle of the trail after Thousand Dollar before the Slabs, I believe. I always wondered who he was. The carwash is where the trail use to go through Buck I think. Trying to find that name thread for you. __________________ Rock Zombie & Marine

07-26-2011, 10:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
ISDTBower Rock God Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 94026 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 1,002	Car wash is/was the low bridge going out to Miller. I thought it was Walker rock. Chappie had one also. Bottom dollar hill was a bulldozed hole just after the last rock section going out to Tahoma. Last edited by ISDTBower; 07-26-2011 at 10:13 PM.

07-26-2011, 10:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
ISDTBower Rock God Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 94026 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 1,002	Site with pics and etc. http://www.rcrc4x4.com/joomla/index....d=20&Itemid=33

07-27-2011, 09:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
71BRONCO71 Dent'n Soup Cans Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43526 Location: Ca Posts: 653	Where everyone parks their rigs to watch little sluice, TOYOTA ROCK or HECKLER ROCK The WATERING HOLE Just after little sluice. The left side is shallow and the right side swallows tires whole The inside line at the U turn going down to Big sluice, TEQUILA TURN. I heard a Rock zombie call this BRONCO ROCK. I have even hit it taking the wrong line. I'll find a picture of it later. but its right after the granite bowl as you start to climb up an incline. The rock is on you right hand side sicking out. EDIT: Found a pipc on the web. Does anyone have a pic of it dry? This one i made up but I always call it CHILLIGANS ROCK at little sluice Of course EGG ROCK on top of the granite bowl __________________ N-06177...N-06178... and 63 more to go. KEEP OUR PUBLIC LANDS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC Last edited by 71BRONCO71; 08-01-2011 at 04:04 PM.

07-27-2011, 09:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Curly Granite Guru Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20205 Location: California Posts: 997	"Phone Booth" One of the first places phone signal came in, doesn't seem to work anymore. Look out at the split with the slabs and Old Sluice. Note: in the pic we are coming up the trail (Backwards) 39° 0'48.45"N 120°15'58.61"W 6691 FT __________________ KI6PPU It's very black and white. It becomes Gray when you give quarter.... Last edited by Curly; 07-27-2011 at 09:28 AM.

07-27-2011, 09:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kurtuleas Team 4405 Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 8,340 Blog Entries: 1	Awesome. THANKS GUYS! Please keep them coming! __________________ JOHNSON VALLEY PETITION #66

07-27-2011, 09:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kurtuleas Team 4405 Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 8,340 Blog Entries: 1	Is there a name for this rock at Buck? I am gunna need names coming in from wentworth from too.. Oh, even names and locations of places off the trail: uncle Toms, Crystal Basin Resort... __________________ JOHNSON VALLEY PETITION #66

07-27-2011, 09:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
welndmn Well Done Man! Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 398 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 17,434 Blog Entries: 3	auburn Jeep camp Dirty Dozen camp Just come hang out with Mello and I with a Map, He's old as hell and knows a lot of those things. __________________ Mark 71 Bronco. 42's and bolt on goats. 47' CJ2a, 302, C4, 33's. 2012, year of the flat fender.

07-27-2011, 12:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
cruzila Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6650 Location: Garden Valley Posts: 5,383	Airport Flat Campground Lawyer Cow Camp McKinstry Lake Wentworth Springs Wentworth Springs Campground Wentworth Slabs Lost Sluice/Forgotten Sluice (I almost forgot!) PostPile Loon Lake Kiosk Loon Lake Spillway Gatekeeper, Alligator Pit The Bowl (HWY 50) Rock Garden Ellis Creek FOTR Bridge Walker Hill Walkers Rock on Walker Hill Phone Booth Nobies Rock Bench Mark Soup Bowl/Soup Kitchen/Hells Kitchen Winter Camp (The Elbow, Pirate Camp, poser camp) Mud Lake Little Sluice Long Bypass Spider Lake Mechanics Camp, Pirate Camp, above LS Thousand Dollar Hill Lilly Pond Arnold's Rock Slabs, Indian Trail, Middle Sluice, Old Sluice, True Sluice, Big ol' Sluice, Flatfender Alley, Wickander Bypass all near the same place Egg Rock two of them. One in bowl mentioned, one near Buck, Pumpkin Rock Chappie Rock Mechanics Camp at Buck The Dam at Buck Buck Island Reservoir Gas Can Hill Cal4 bypass of Buck Lake Coffmans Corner Martini Tree Big Sluice Big Corner Big Sluice. Tequila Turn, Bronco Rock Squeeze Rock there were a couple but they are gone now. One is known in the Old Sluice as volkswagen rock and one was in Big Sluice pre 1991 Sawtooth Scout Hole Property Line Rubicon Bridge Gate to Stone Cabin Mini Sluice Heckler Hill (closed in Rubicon Springs) Dirty Dozen camp Back Door Miller Mud hole Miller Creek Sid's Grave Root Section Cadillac Hill S turn/spring V-rock a couple of those Little v-rock Morris Rock, Steps above V-rock Observation Point, Parking Lot in the sky Dollar Hole, Bottom Dollar Hole, Carwash Barker Trail cutoff Barker Pass Miller Meadows Miller Lake Staging Area Tahoe I can get locations to you later. Jambo, affidavits and day job this week. then there are all the jambo camp names. Amo's Bar Ice Cream Parlor Margaritaville Smutville Hammerville etc etc Scott edited to add some and put it in order __________________ Scott Johnston Rubicon Trail Foundation Founding Director and Past President 2010-2012 WIN a fully built Toyota pickup at Cantina 2013 Davez Off Road and Trail Gear are supporting Rubicon Trail Foundation Last edited by cruzila; 07-27-2011 at 01:53 PM.

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atvobsession Team 261 - VP Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31923 Posts: 1,739	On Wentworth... After Wentworth Springs Camp Postpile (Waterfall -even though it's dry) Forgotten Sluice __________________ Regards, Ken Hower - KOH #1962 Close Enough Racing Rubicon Trail Foundation - Director 2011-Present Click Here for a calendar of Rubicon Events Raceline Wheels and Falken Tires!! Thanks guys for sponsoring the Tacos at this Years Event!!

07-27-2011, 12:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
atvobsession Team 261 - VP Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31923 Posts: 1,739	Tahoe side... after these U turn/spring V-rock a couple of those Little v-rock Observation Point, Parking Lot in the sky Super Tilt (it was spray painted there for decades) Barker Pass __________________ Regards, Ken Hower - KOH #1962 Close Enough Racing Rubicon Trail Foundation - Director 2011-Present Click Here for a calendar of Rubicon Events Raceline Wheels and Falken Tires!! Thanks guys for sponsoring the Tacos at this Years Event!!

07-27-2011, 12:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
Snow4Phil Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 90105 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 39	The steps, coming up Cadillac, Just above V rock. Pumpkin Rock, at the bottom of the Indian trail just before the merger with Old Sluice. S turn, just after the corner coming up Cadillac Last edited by Snow4Phil; 07-27-2011 at 12:44 PM.

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bagman Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 993 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 2,268	Thanks for the correction __________________ Rock Zombie & Marine

07-27-2011, 03:23 PM	#23 (permalink)
Kurtuleas Team 4405 Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 8,340 Blog Entries: 1	Bad ass Scott. You of all people will over what I got in mind here. Need locations and possibly pics of all those spots though.. How.hairy is lost sluice? I have never been in there before... __________________ JOHNSON VALLEY PETITION #66

07-27-2011, 04:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
bagman Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 993 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 2,268	Lost sluice is about a 4 out 10 for most people. For you I'd say it's 12 __________________ Rock Zombie & Marine

07-27-2011, 04:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
jimmysc13 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Member # 187697 Posts: 543	Whats the name of the hill just before you get to this water crossing (coming from loon to tahoe). You can go around to the right too. Some one said it was called "heart attack hill", but i don't know is thats right http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/DSCI0262.jpg

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