30x50 shop build (stick frame) - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

mcutler1 · 01-15-2012, 05:35 PM

growing out of my carport style 24x24 garage and moving up to a 30x50 with attached 16x28 sheds.

picked up a woodstove and a 7x16x4 trailer load of wood for $400, all 2yr seasoned red oak.

mcutler1 · 01-15-2012, 05:50 PM

siding is on, windows in, next to doors, wiring, insulation, and sheeting.

SLC97SR5 · 01-15-2012, 06:12 PM

Nice build, I really like the sheds for trailer/equipment parking...keeping the shop a shop. That looks like a really nice lot too.

mcutler1 · 01-15-2012, 06:36 PM

thanks, yea the sheds are gonna be very handy, and it worked out that the right shed is tall enough to clear my buggy loaded an my deckover, for those late night/bad weather returns home and too lazy to unload. i'm still gonna use my old 24x24 garage for buggy/camping gear/atv storage, like you stated; keep the shop a shop!

the lot is newly graded 200 ft begind my home and previous garage. the lot is almost 100'x100' square.

Cork · 01-15-2012, 08:31 PM

Insulate and finish the interior walls now or you will forever regret not doing it.

Todd W · 01-15-2012, 09:01 PM

looks great

that much new space is going to requiring some new tools

fastg60 · 01-15-2012, 09:14 PM

I love the look of it. I can't wait to see the finished product. Congrats on the build.

matty_fly · 01-16-2012, 05:32 AM

Good looking building, what made you go stick frame verses pole?

mcutler1 · 01-16-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by matty_fly

Good looking building, what made you go stick frame verses pole?

that was the plan. frankly, my grader didn't cut a level grade as instructed, so the foundation and block was the next best thing.

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Originally Posted by Cork

Insulate and finish the interior walls now or you will forever regret not doing it.

that's the plan

as stated in post 2. appreciate the compliments guys. i plan to post throughout the build process.

PhantomEB · 01-16-2012, 12:31 PM

Damn thats sweet!

KWTMECH · 01-16-2012, 02:47 PM

Nice build, I would have put in some skylights though

mcutler1 · 01-16-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KWTMECH

Nice build, I would have put in some skylights though

Thanks. i am going to osb sheet the ceiling and roll insulation so skylights are a no go. less area to heat.

Phat95YJ · 01-17-2012, 12:38 AM

Looks like a nice set up!

NotAPoser · 01-18-2012, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mcutler1

Thanks. i am going to osb sheet the ceiling and roll insulation so skylights are a no go. less area to heat.

Have you considered white metal roof on the ceilings? That is the route that I am going in mine. It reflects alot of light, and you dont have to worry about ever painting it, and it is a shit load easier to put up then OSB. I had never thought of it until a friend of mine suggested it.

renolaw · 01-18-2012, 01:10 PM

very nice. my buddy built something very similar, but added a door on far side, making it a drive in/out deal. Makes for easier movement of vehicles, etc.
x2 on getting it insulated. Nice score on the wood stove.

Benny · 01-18-2012, 05:56 PM

Gonna sweat without a vapor barrier.

Nice build though. my 24x36 quonset hut is getting smaller by the day.

Redfin · 01-18-2012, 06:08 PM

Whats the length from the wall to the posts on your sheds? Whats your snow load where you live? Joists are on 2ft centers?

Sorry about the questions but Im planning my shop build now and I am planning sheds like yours but we have a decent snow load here.

Thanks

EDIT: reread and saw width of sheds.

mcutler1 · 01-18-2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAPoser

Have you considered white metal roof on the ceilings? That is the route that I am going in mine. It reflects alot of light, and you dont have to worry about ever painting it, and it is a shit load easier to put up then OSB. I had never thought of it until a friend of mine suggested it.

no i havent but thats a great idea, may consider that route. can't beat the price on the osb though, its not "certifed" so it was only $3 a sheet.

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Originally Posted by renolaw

very nice. my buddy built something very similar, but added a door on far side, making it a drive in/out deal. Makes for easier movement of vehicles, etc.
x2 on getting it insulated. Nice score on the wood stove.

yea the woodstove and load of wood was the best oney spent so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny

Gonna sweat without a vapor barrier.

Nice build though. my 24x36 quonset hut is getting smaller by the day.

gotta be better than my carport garage!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfin

Whats the length from the wall to the posts on your sheds? Whats your snow load where you live? Joists are on 2ft centers?

Sorry about the questions but Im planning my shop build now and I am planning sheds like yours but we have a decent snow load here.

Thanks

EDIT: reread and saw width of sheds.

i'm no contractor but my cousin who built it is a general. i certainly don't know the specs for our area, but we rarely get more than 6-8" at a time a few years apart.

the wall is approx 14'8" from outside of shed posts. rafters are 2x12 treated, 2' spacing, with 2x4 stringers under the roofing and commercial grade metal. not sure of the pitch.

thanks for all the comps guys. i believe the doors are going up next week or two, meanwhile i'm gonna rough in the electrical and get my power buried.

Btw this was not built with permits, it is 300' from the road and 40' lower in elevation from said road. no one will even know until the next satellite fly by for property tax adjustments, and they just did that last year on my property, so hopefully a few years before i see any "repercussions"(sp?)

u2slow · 01-19-2012, 11:17 AM

Did you get any considerable savings on the block foundation vs. formed concrete?

Todd W · 01-19-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by u2slow

Did you get any considerable savings on the block foundation vs. formed concrete?

I'd have thought it cost more $$

mrdrinksalil · 01-19-2012, 01:01 PM

Looks good. Curious as to how much you've got into it; Material Cost, foundation and building once the doors are in?

TRAV0069 · 01-20-2012, 05:21 AM

Your a lucky man, looks tits. I really think this is the year I will get my shop built.

mcutler1 · 01-20-2012, 05:23 AM

footings, block and backfill; 3600
dried in with materials, labor with family discount, concrete and labor to finish (20 yds at $40 per yrd labor); 21,400
2- 10x8 steel/vinyl clad ins garage doors installed; 1400

therefore to date; $26400
also to note; i had purchased about a third of the steel siding/roofing and 2- 8' rollup and man door second hand; probably $2500 worth of materials

new total; $28900
--------------------------------------------
other expenses not relative to actual building/structure

grading; 4500
gravel; 4500
retaining wall blocks; 2700
backhoe rental for a mo; 1800
lull rental; 300

---------------------------

all this has been spread out over a year
building actually started dec 2, dried in complete jan 5; all done during breaks in my cousins regular contracted work.

Garlic Bronco · 06-04-2012, 11:28 AM

any updates, i love reading these

carslut · 06-05-2012, 12:03 AM

dang that is a great work space

01-15-2012, 05:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
mcutler1 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2010 Member # 167368 Location: Mt. Airy, NC Posts: 226	30x50 shop build (stick frame) growing out of my carport style 24x24 garage and moving up to a 30x50 with attached 16x28 sheds. picked up a woodstove and a 7x16x4 trailer load of wood for $400, all 2yr seasoned red oak. __________________ Copper Crawler Buggy Build thread;http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthre...=95876&page=38 LS2, th350, atlas 3.8, 60/14, 5.13's, arb/detroit, Jim's garage chassis #7, 43" sx stickes on 17" racelines, 2010 dodge charger front clip

01-15-2012, 05:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
mcutler1 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2010 Member # 167368 Location: Mt. Airy, NC Posts: 226	siding is on, windows in, next to doors, wiring, insulation, and sheeting. __________________ Copper Crawler Buggy Build thread;http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthre...=95876&page=38 LS2, th350, atlas 3.8, 60/14, 5.13's, arb/detroit, Jim's garage chassis #7, 43" sx stickes on 17" racelines, 2010 dodge charger front clip

01-15-2012, 06:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
mcutler1 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2010 Member # 167368 Location: Mt. Airy, NC Posts: 226	thanks, yea the sheds are gonna be very handy, and it worked out that the right shed is tall enough to clear my buggy loaded an my deckover, for those late night/bad weather returns home and too lazy to unload. i'm still gonna use my old 24x24 garage for buggy/camping gear/atv storage, like you stated; keep the shop a shop! the lot is newly graded 200 ft begind my home and previous garage. the lot is almost 100'x100' square. __________________ Copper Crawler Buggy Build thread;http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthre...=95876&page=38 LS2, th350, atlas 3.8, 60/14, 5.13's, arb/detroit, Jim's garage chassis #7, 43" sx stickes on 17" racelines, 2010 dodge charger front clip Last edited by mcutler1; 01-15-2012 at 06:38 PM.

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Todd W I make websites! Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12429 Location: Rubicon Trail - CA Posts: 10,326 Blog Entries: 9	looks great that much new space is going to requiring some new tools __________________ My 4x4 Blog Rockwell axles too!

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fastg60 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38567 Location: Ft. Wainwright, AK/Dayton, OH Posts: 490	I love the look of it. I can't wait to see the finished product. Congrats on the build. __________________ WANTED: 30' ish bumper pull trailer near 45342

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SLC97SR5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 98713 Posts: 132	Nice build, I really like the sheds for trailer/equipment parking...keeping the shop a shop. That looks like a really nice lot too.

01-15-2012, 08:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cork Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80279 Location: In the trees Posts: 298	Insulate and finish the interior walls now or you will forever regret not doing it.

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matty_fly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 65168 Location: We are Sparta!, Ohio Posts: 548	Good looking building, what made you go stick frame verses pole?

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PhantomEB Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53596 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 870	Damn thats sweet! __________________ CrawlinBC.com:smokin:

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KWTMECH Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13786 Location: moved 7 miles to colfax, ca. Posts: 4,224	Nice build, I would have put in some skylights though

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Phat95YJ Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189941 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 592	Looks like a nice set up! __________________ 95 YJ- with stuff, 04 KJ- stock 05 F350- the tow rig

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renolaw Granite Guru Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12908 Location: Poundtown, NV Posts: 981	very nice. my buddy built something very similar, but added a door on far side, making it a drive in/out deal. Makes for easier movement of vehicles, etc. x2 on getting it insulated. Nice score on the wood stove. __________________ Who is John Galt? Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore '81 CJ8 '01 2500 HD 8.1/Ali Life Member BRC Cal 4 Wheel. ECV #3691 www.HillsAngels4x4.com www.reno4x4.com

01-18-2012, 05:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Benny Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1129 Location: North Idaho Posts: 4,667	Gonna sweat without a vapor barrier. Nice build though. my 24x36 quonset hut is getting smaller by the day. __________________ '87 Toyota 4Runner Turbo, '85 Toyota XtraCab, '83 Toyota Landcruiser, '67 Chevy, 46 CJ2a New Project.

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Redfin 0[III]O Join Date: Mar 2009 Member # 132064 Location: Pa Posts: 688	Whats the length from the wall to the posts on your sheds? Whats your snow load where you live? Joists are on 2ft centers? Sorry about the questions but Im planning my shop build now and I am planning sheds like yours but we have a decent snow load here. Thanks EDIT: reread and saw width of sheds. __________________ BUY MY Toy/Lexus 3.0 clutch...http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...222&highlight= Bendix Tuflo compressor http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...ompressor.html I NEED 9.25" clutch for 22r Cadillac 425 rear sump pan Last edited by Redfin; 01-18-2012 at 06:10 PM.

01-19-2012, 11:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
u2slow Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4243 Location: Salt Spring Island, BC Posts: 3,067	Did you get any considerable savings on the block foundation vs. formed concrete? __________________ 90-93 CTD jalopies

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mrdrinksalil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 96496 Location: Flowery Branch, GA (yes.. like a branch with f**kin pretty pink flowers on it...) Posts: 163	Looks good. Curious as to how much you've got into it; Material Cost, foundation and building once the doors are in? __________________ My Cummins makes enough power to break a NV271... Last edited by mrdrinksalil; 01-19-2012 at 01:03 PM.

01-20-2012, 05:21 AM	#22 (permalink)
TRAV0069 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Member # 165322 Location: Holdingford, MN Posts: 110	Your a lucky man, looks tits. I really think this is the year I will get my shop built.

01-20-2012, 05:23 AM	#23 (permalink)
mcutler1 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2010 Member # 167368 Location: Mt. Airy, NC Posts: 226	footings, block and backfill; 3600 dried in with materials, labor with family discount, concrete and labor to finish (20 yds at $40 per yrd labor); 21,400 2- 10x8 steel/vinyl clad ins garage doors installed; 1400 therefore to date; $26400 also to note; i had purchased about a third of the steel siding/roofing and 2- 8' rollup and man door second hand; probably $2500 worth of materials new total; $28900 -------------------------------------------- other expenses not relative to actual building/structure grading; 4500 gravel; 4500 retaining wall blocks; 2700 backhoe rental for a mo; 1800 lull rental; 300 --------------------------- all this has been spread out over a year building actually started dec 2, dried in complete jan 5; all done during breaks in my cousins regular contracted work. __________________ Copper Crawler Buggy Build thread;http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthre...=95876&page=38 LS2, th350, atlas 3.8, 60/14, 5.13's, arb/detroit, Jim's garage chassis #7, 43" sx stickes on 17" racelines, 2010 dodge charger front clip

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Garlic Bronco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Member # 113272 Location: Gilroy California Posts: 12	any updates, i love reading these

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carslut plasma dust huffer Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 25823 Location: USA Posts: 1,852	dang that is a great work space __________________ *Duramax and LS based motor tuning* Offering in House Custom CNC Plasma cutting services, we can take your idea from design to your doorstep. have a sketch you want to become parts for your project? pm me, i can help. parts are shipping out daily "it makes the mach5 look like a vagina" - ARCHER

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