JD2 model 3 degree wheel ?'s - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Grayguy · 02-09-2012, 06:56 PM

So so this may be silly, but how do I properly use the degree wheel in my new to me model 3? I tried setting it so once there is tension on it the flat edge of my die is at 0 degrees, but then when I get to 90, the tube it's self is no where near a 90. I've seen pics of other Peoples dies having a spot for a little metal needle thing, but mine doesn't have that.

Basically, what I'm looking for is the best way for my to get the degree wheel to be accurate? I knee there was gonna be a steep learning curve to bending, but this part seems to be confusing me when k don't think it should be haha

TMI · 02-10-2012, 03:58 AM

Your die should have come with a copper pointer.

sne97hd · 02-10-2012, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMI

Your die should have come with a copper pointer.

This^. Should have a small bolt to attach a piece of tig rod or clothes hanger to make a pointer. If it's not there, just drill and tap one. Rotate the indicator to zero once the tube is strapped in and ready to go.

fabcam · 02-10-2012, 05:09 AM

The degree ring should be called a reference ring. Because of spring back and some other factors to try to make the degree come out exactly on the degree ring is not practical in most cases. Use the degree ring to know how far you need to go to get to a given bend angle. Example: I know I need to pull to 97 degrees to get a 90 degree bend with the 1.75 x .120 wall DOM I am using.

In addition, if you don't have one, you will want to get an angle finder like those at www.tricktools.com

Grayguy · 02-10-2012, 07:11 AM

Ok, so I'm not crazy haha. I had it setup so 94 on the wheel meant 90 on the tube, but then the wheel moved...so I'll get a pointer on my die, and play with it more and see where my new 90 is.

Am I better off having the wheel move and just resetting it to zero everytime?

I thought my die was missing something when I got it...

MCgiver4x4 · 02-10-2012, 07:38 AM

I do not have a degree wheel in my bender , what i use its something calle carpenters false square (2 pieces of flat stock making a hinge bolted trough so i could put against the outer side of the tube and tigth the nut on the bolt, and then measure angle or try it where it supposed to be fitted , a lot easier than use my angle finder or other tool to guesstimate the angle needed

02-09-2012, 06:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Grayguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38695 Location: Northern MN Posts: 111	JD2 model 3 degree wheel ?'s So so this may be silly, but how do I properly use the degree wheel in my new to me model 3? I tried setting it so once there is tension on it the flat edge of my die is at 0 degrees, but then when I get to 90, the tube it's self is no where near a 90. I've seen pics of other Peoples dies having a spot for a little metal needle thing, but mine doesn't have that. Basically, what I'm looking for is the best way for my to get the degree wheel to be accurate? I knee there was gonna be a steep learning curve to bending, but this part seems to be confusing me when k don't think it should be haha

02-10-2012, 03:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
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02-10-2012, 05:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
fabcam Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19763 Location: MN Posts: 1,548	The degree ring should be called a reference ring. Because of spring back and some other factors to try to make the degree come out exactly on the degree ring is not practical in most cases. Use the degree ring to know how far you need to go to get to a given bend angle. Example: I know I need to pull to 97 degrees to get a 90 degree bend with the 1.75 x .120 wall DOM I am using. In addition, if you don't have one, you will want to get an angle finder like those at www.tricktools.com __________________ The site for the fabricator: [URL="http://www.offroadfabnet.com/index.php"]www.offroadfabnet.com[/URL] [COLOR="Orange"]Bend-Tech [URL="http://www.2020softwaresolutions.com/bt_pro.htm"]PRO[/URL] is now available!!![/COLOR] Design full tube [URL="http://www.2020softwaresolutions.com/web_images/Racer-X_5[1].jpg"][U]chassis[/U] [/URL]in less than a couple of hours with the PRO [COLOR=Cyan]We are the developers of the Bend-Tech products. [COLOR="Yellow"]651-257-8715[/COLOR] for sales and support[/COLOR] [URL=http://www.2020ssi.com]www.bend-tech.com[/URL] [COLOR="Cyan"]10,000+[/COLOR] now using Bend-Tech

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MCgiver4x4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21858 Location: Monterrey Mexico Posts: 211	I do not have a degree wheel in my bender , what i use its something calle carpenters false square (2 pieces of flat stock making a hinge bolted trough so i could put against the outer side of the tube and tigth the nut on the bolt, and then measure angle or try it where it supposed to be fitted , a lot easier than use my angle finder or other tool to guesstimate the angle needed __________________ cj5 76 SOA,OBA,OBW,LPG 14b & 60RC W/detroits High steering and ram assisted ford t18 and 205 , rear Fox air shocks new toy Cj7 82 on 33's setuped to mall crawling :D

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02-10-2012, 07:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Grayguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38695 Location: Northern MN Posts: 111	Ok, so I'm not crazy haha. I had it setup so 94 on the wheel meant 90 on the tube, but then the wheel moved...so I'll get a pointer on my die, and play with it more and see where my new 90 is. Am I better off having the wheel move and just resetting it to zero everytime? I thought my die was missing something when I got it...