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Old 03-23-2012, 04:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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If you're refering to me, then no. Sorry you don't comprehend. From what I've read, the lincoln has a 6ft cord and the hobart 10. Something to think about.
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I have the older Mig Pak15 (from Cambodian Tire) it is similar to the Lincoln Mig Pak 180.

I've played with 1/4" and 5/16" material which it will weld flawlessly... That being said:

Plastic internals, liners are not the same as standard lincoln liners apparently. My fan is shitting itself slowly, it doesn't come on when the welder is fired up, it takes a few seconds

I personally wish I saved for a blue machine but I jumped the gun because it was "cheap". I wish my voltage wasn't tapped, but you can play with that a bit if you adjust the distance of your tip
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In this price range I would have a real problem not spending the $810 on a Thermal Arc Fabricator 181i machine and flog the free auto darkening helmet it comes with on CL for $60 to get me down to $750 into the machine.

For the extra ~$150 you get a inverter machine with a better duty cycle with DC Stick and Tig capabilities that is smaller and lighter than the other machines mentioned that also has continuously variable voltage with digital meters for voltage and WFS along with an inductance control.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermal-Arc-...23939022293727

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If you're refering to me, then no. Sorry you don't comprehend. From what I've read, the lincoln has a 6ft cord and the hobart 10. Something to think about.
there is another thread going right now with a dude asking about his drier plug and your reply seemed like a reply to it

cord I am not worried, I made a 50' service cord

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In this price range I would have a real problem not spending the $810 on a Thermal Arc Fabricator 181i machine and flog the free auto darkening helmet it comes with on CL for $60 to get me down to $750 into the machine.
I know nothing about that company other than their cutters so I never looked them up.
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Thats a neat little machine. So how does it do TIG? I am a fucking novice there and only screwed around with a big ass sycrowave or some shit with a foot peddle. Does this one use a peddle or what? That would be a nice option that may make me have to sell some gun shit to buy

never mind, I see the optional shit
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Regarding the extension cord post above,

The Mig Pak's do have short cords, I made my own 10 gauge extension cord quite cheaply (50ft)... the nice thing about the big box models is that they only pull 22amps so a 50amp rated cord isn't needed

Not sure about the the thermal model above I don't see a working spec... but for the $ that is a nice unit and I like the "commercial" style gun... I hate the feel of the big box ones
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I have a Hobart 140 I've had for a few years and has never given me any problems but realistically all the ones listed will do what you want just fine so in this case I'd get the Lincoln due to it being $100 cheaper.
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I'm running a Lincoln weldpack 180 that I bought from a member on here a couple years ago brand new in box for $500. I've run close to 10, 10lb spools through it without a single issue. Roll cages, bumpers, and other offroad type fab stuff. Couldn't be happier.
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Hobart hands down. I have the Handler 187 and its a phenomenal welder. I dont ever see myself needing more than it.
I have HH187 and just picked up the HH125ez and love both. Hit the duty cycle once on the 187, prep a few other pieces and a few mins later I was back at it. With a bevel and couple multipasses I have done 3/4". It's way more welder than I'll ever need. TSC does sales a few times a year where the 190 goes down to $600. If you can wait you can save that extra 100. I have used the HomoDepot Lincoln as well, it worked really well, I just was closer to TSC when I actually had the money to get a welder.
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<<<< Did not read this thread.....

But Phil, HOFF on the board, has a bitchen little Lincoln??? I'll have him post up about it he really likes it and it does as well as his Miller 250 Pulse welder.
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I have a Lincoln Weld Pak 180 That i got off of ebay for $530 about 2 years ago. It Has been a fantastic machine to start out with. I welded 1/2 inch plate with the flux cored wire that came with it the day it came out of the box and it seemed to penetrate pretty well. Argue all you want, but this is a great machine that holds up very well. It also never uses tips or really any consumables. The only time I ever have to change tips is when i put in a new spool of wire. The only thing it needed is the longer tweco gas nozzle. The one that came with it stuck out less than the tip and kinda just fell apart. All in all you will not be disappointed with the lincoln. I have zero regrets
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Phil has the Lincoln weldpak 155. He likes it.. LOTS

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you know the last 3 would cost me more in gas than to just buy a new one
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There is no difference. They are the same welder. The difference between these and a "real" one you get from a welding store is pretty good though. The welding store one has an all metal feed and variable power. The box store ones have different power settings. All that to say I have a Pro Mig 180 that does everything I need it to do. I got it off clist for $300.
Only in the 180C version which gives you metal drive and continuous voltage. That's the only difference. Same electronics in all of them. The Lincoln 180T is identical in every way to the Lowes and HD units. When I got mine at Lowes about 4 years ago I called Lincoln to verify.
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Lincoln 180

I ordered the Themal arc 181 from www.welderssupply. I paid 799.oo for the welder and 119.00 for the T.I.G. torch, free shipping. I ordered it wed. had it on thurs. I just had the chance to try it out today and was very impressed.It ran 7018 eigtth inch about as well as my xmt 304 . Tried it out with 70s6 .035 and it did real well with that also,it seemed to run hotter than the Miller 252 or 250x that I am used to. T.I.G. seemed to work pretty well for atouch arc D.C.unit that uses agas valve. I would rcomend it to anyone.
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I love my Lincoln weldpak 155! It works awesome! Worth every penny. I've probably run at least 50 rolls of wire through it. I've only overheated it twice. Asking for too much duty cycle! But let it cool down and keep on welding! Its smooth arc and low spatter and good weld bead appearance is unbeatable. I will buy the Lincoln weldpak 180 when this gives up. I'm very impressed with it.
I have the Miller350P and it has it's place in the shop but for roll cages and light fabrication the little Lincoln is everyone's choice in the shop.

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I just skimmed through this thread, but here's my $.02.

I have a Lincoln 180C. I chose the C model based on having more adjustibility, but I don't know if it was actually worth it. I'm a welder by trade, but rarely use MIG at work so take it for what it's worth.

The welder does a great job IMO. I have used flux core wire but prefer not to. All of the following refers to using shielding gas. With Flux core I run .035 wire, turn the heat way up, and hope for the best.

For some unknown reason it does not like .035 wire. It runs great with .030 and .045 though. I only used .045 once, in a 1lb spool, out of curiosity. .045 looked good, never tested it. .035 left me with a small amount of porosity and the wire wasn't feeding at a consistent rate. May have been something in the rollers, I don't know. I had the correct rollers and a new tip installed, I just gave up and gave the wire to a friend.

With the .030 wire I brought some test coupons home from work and welded as if I was taking a weld test. No preheat, no backing strip, 3/8" plate beveled with a 1/8" land. Plates were beveled with a plasma cutter then cleaned with a grinder, then final prep with a burr bit on a die grinder. Multi pass in vertical up and overhead posisitions then cut into strips and cleaned with a grinder. Passed all bend tests, 2 root bends and 2 face bends for each posisition.

I made my Beadlocks with the .030, I think I had 2 leaks in the first wheel on my restarts IIRC, the rest went good after I changed my procedure a bit. I wasn't feathering my tacks down at first, I just ran it like you would 7018. I run 7018 all day at work, it's a hard habit to break sometimes.
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I have a Lincoln Weld Pak 180 That i got off of ebay for $530 about 2 years ago. It Has been a fantastic machine to start out with. I welded 1/2 inch plate with the flux cored wire that came with it the day it came out of the box and it seemed to penetrate pretty well. Argue all you want, but this is a great machine that holds up very well. It also never uses tips or really any consumables. The only time I ever have to change tips is when i put in a new spool of wire. The only thing it needed is the longer tweco gas nozzle. The one that came with it stuck out less than the tip and kinda just fell apart. All in all you will not be disappointed with the lincoln. I have zero regrets
i also have a lincoln 180(we actually have two of them in the shop sitting side by side) and have had the exact same experience as you, great little welder that gets the job done. ive ran over 100 pounds of wire through them(all flux core) and have yet to over heat either of them, i can not comment on the other welders as i have no experience with them.
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Doc, what welder did you pick, and how do you like it?
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dang that was 2 years ago.
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That should be long enough for some real world feedback




Also forgot to ask, why did you chose the one you did.
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I started off with a Lincoln Mig PAK 140, decent machine for the price I paid (50% off retail). I've since stepped up to a Miller 180 and am loving the new machine. A 211 or a 251 would be awesome but I'm confident the 180 will do everything I need it to and the price was right.
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