anyone ever rent spool guns? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

redrangie · 06-30-2004, 09:37 AM

Title says it all. I am looking to get one eventially, but want to try it out. My vendors will let me try at the store, but I want to build something first to see if it is worth it.

j

Old Scout · 06-30-2004, 09:46 AM

What box do you have?
I have a 3035 that is plug and play for my Miller 210.

redrangie · 06-30-2004, 10:42 AM

Lincoln...

bluesman2a · 06-30-2004, 03:18 PM

Old Scout, do you weld aluminum with that spool-gun?

If so, I'd be interested on your thoughts on the setup. I have a 255 and have been considering adding a spool-gun... Just don't know what all that will get me...

Old Scout · 06-30-2004, 04:43 PM

Yup I use it for aluminum. I have built a few things with it and will be using it to build an 19' aluminum boat trailer next year. The only down sides are, Aluminum takes a ton more prep than steel and the 1lb spools and small bottles of argon kind of get expensive. It was a freebe from Miller when they introduced the 210.

Bill4rest · 07-06-2004, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Scout

Yup I use it for aluminum. I have built a few things with it and will be using it to build an 19' aluminum boat trailer next year. The only down sides are, Aluminum takes a ton more prep than steel and the 1lb spools and small bottles of argon kind of get expensive. It was a freebe from Miller when they introduced the 210.

I missed that deal by two months

MC · 07-06-2004, 08:10 PM

spoolies are very cool, we have a puller here at the shop...does aluminum...fun to weld aluminum

woody99 · 07-06-2004, 10:39 PM

I rented one before I bought my setup. It was a Miller and it worked pretty good. The only problem is that it is kind of bulky.

After renting the spool gun, I went for a kick ass push pull system from Lincoln. My machine is a 350amp and you need all the heat you can get if you are going to do aluminum.

How many amps is your machine?

woody99 · 07-06-2004, 10:42 PM

these are the guys I get my stuff from. too bad your not in cali.

http://www.barneswelding.com/

weldpro · 07-07-2004, 04:25 PM

If you want a really good spool gun that is also a trail welder get a READY WELDER! It is amazing that most people with migs dont realize how easy it is to just set up a RW to their machines. It is in fact so simple you dont have to have any kind of "add on box". Just connect your leads as if you were hooking to battery power in the appropriate polarity and VIOLA a spoolgun on your mig machine!
The ready welder has a built in gas solenoid already , and also comes with the gas hose & fittings etc.
You still have all adjustability of the voltage at the mig machine PLUS since the wire speed wheel is right next to your thumb it is cake to set yourself up with out having burnback situations. Also I should note that this works just as good as ANY spool gun set up out there on a normal short circut mig machine (ie non pulse inverter based (GMAW-P)) which no one here is talking about anyhow..
Add that to the fact you can then put it all back in its case , and take it to the trail.
Richard

redrangie · 07-08-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weldpro

If you want a really good spool gun that is also a trail welder get a READY WELDER! It is amazing that most people with migs dont realize how easy it is to just set up a RW to their machines. It is in fact so simple you dont have to have any kind of "add on box". Just connect your leads as if you were hooking to battery power in the appropriate polarity and VIOLA a spoolgun on your mig machine!
The ready welder has a built in gas solenoid already , and also comes with the gas hose & fittings etc.
You still have all adjustability of the voltage at the mig machine PLUS since the wire speed wheel is right next to your thumb it is cake to set yourself up with out having burnback situations. Also I should note that this works just as good as ANY spool gun set up out there on a normal short circut mig machine (ie non pulse inverter based (GMAW-P)) which no one here is talking about anyhow..
Add that to the fact you can then put it all back in its case , and take it to the trail.
Richard

I know your biased, but that was damn good information.. something to think over.
j

doctor_cad · 07-08-2004, 08:52 AM

I have been thinking about the RW for a while. Does it work ok with a DC stick welder? Seems like it should if it can run off batteries... I am a bit confused though, cuz a normal spool gun needs to sense the arc voltage to vary the wire speed if running off a Constant Current source.

opstech · 10-06-2011, 05:19 AM

Sorry to jump in here would you rent yours or sell it? Wow this an ancient thread maybe no life in it for question/answers

06-30-2004, 09:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
redrangie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11072 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,043	anyone ever rent spool guns? Title says it all. I am looking to get one eventially, but want to try it out. My vendors will let me try at the store, but I want to build something first to see if it is worth it. j __________________ forgings design dot com metal furniture \| fabrication \| decor new \| rustic \| recycled

06-30-2004, 09:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	What box do you have? I have a 3035 that is plug and play for my Miller 210. __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

06-30-2004, 10:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
redrangie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11072 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,043	Lincoln... __________________ forgings design dot com metal furniture \| fabrication \| decor new \| rustic \| recycled

06-30-2004, 03:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
bluesman2a Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4554 Location: Atlanta, Ga. USA Earth Sol etc. Posts: 1,253	Old Scout, do you weld aluminum with that spool-gun? If so, I'd be interested on your thoughts on the setup. I have a 255 and have been considering adding a spool-gun... Just don't know what all that will get me... __________________ M-715 Zombie Control Edition "If your junk didn't come standard with 38's and gun mounts in the cab/bed STFU." -- me

06-30-2004, 04:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	Yup I use it for aluminum. I have built a few things with it and will be using it to build an 19' aluminum boat trailer next year. The only down sides are, Aluminum takes a ton more prep than steel and the 1lb spools and small bottles of argon kind of get expensive. It was a freebe from Miller when they introduced the 210. __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

07-06-2004, 08:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
MC Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21997 Location: Insane CNC machine mfg Posts: 5,274	spoolies are very cool, we have a puller here at the shop...does aluminum...fun to weld aluminum __________________ Industrial Quality CNC machines at a Hobby Price! USA Quality is job #1 We build CNC plasma tables, click me .................................................. ......... American Motors Engine HERE!! 1-651-257-7917

07-06-2004, 10:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
woody99 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 587 Location: El Dorado Hills... lately Posts: 982	I rented one before I bought my setup. It was a Miller and it worked pretty good. The only problem is that it is kind of bulky. After renting the spool gun, I went for a kick ass push pull system from Lincoln. My machine is a 350amp and you need all the heat you can get if you are going to do aluminum. How many amps is your machine? __________________ eighty three on thirty eights and a nice tow rig too.

07-06-2004, 10:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
woody99 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 587 Location: El Dorado Hills... lately Posts: 982	these are the guys I get my stuff from. too bad your not in cali. http://www.barneswelding.com/ __________________ eighty three on thirty eights and a nice tow rig too.

07-07-2004, 04:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
weldpro pimping sparks&smoke Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 444 Posts: 844	If you want a really good spool gun that is also a trail welder get a READY WELDER! It is amazing that most people with migs dont realize how easy it is to just set up a RW to their machines. It is in fact so simple you dont have to have any kind of "add on box". Just connect your leads as if you were hooking to battery power in the appropriate polarity and VIOLA a spoolgun on your mig machine! The ready welder has a built in gas solenoid already , and also comes with the gas hose & fittings etc. You still have all adjustability of the voltage at the mig machine PLUS since the wire speed wheel is right next to your thumb it is cake to set yourself up with out having burnback situations. Also I should note that this works just as good as ANY spool gun set up out there on a normal short circut mig machine (ie non pulse inverter based (GMAW-P)) which no one here is talking about anyhow.. Add that to the fact you can then put it all back in its case , and take it to the trail. Richard __________________ DBSONLY

07-08-2004, 08:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
doctor_cad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29609 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 237	I have been thinking about the RW for a while. Does it work ok with a DC stick welder? Seems like it should if it can run off batteries... I am a bit confused though, cuz a normal spool gun needs to sense the arc voltage to vary the wire speed if running off a Constant Current source.

10-06-2011, 05:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
opstech Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Member # 160637 Posts: 10	Sorry to jump in here would you rent yours or sell it? Wow this an ancient thread maybe no life in it for question/answers

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