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toyotabajaracer · 07-22-2004, 03:44 PM

I've Been Checking Out The Threads In Search, And Was Curious, With The Dies Pig Offers Do You Have To Use A Hole Saw To Pre Drill The Material?
Because I Have Seen And Used Some On Sheet Metal That All You Needed Was A Small Pilot, And It Cut And Dimpled The Material All In One Shot.
Is There Any Specific Benifit To One Style Over The Other?
It Seems Eaiser And More Precise To Me To Use The Second One Mentioned, All Less Consumables, Burning Up Hole Saws?

Thanks

Aaronn · 07-22-2004, 03:51 PM

you have to cut a hole first with pigs

Azrckcrawler · 07-29-2004, 08:06 AM

Anybody tried to dimple 3/16 steel with these? If so what did you use for teh press?

GOAT1 · 07-30-2004, 03:53 PM

most of the dimple dies that punch are only made for thinner gage material, probably thinner than most people use around here.

I dont dimple die any thing over 1/8, it is hard to do and just doesnt work well, it really distorts the entire plate.

ROCKSFORBRAINS · 07-30-2004, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by toyotabajaracer

I've Been Checking Out The Threads In Search, And Was Curious, With The Dies Pig Offers Do You Have To Use A Hole Saw To Pre Drill The Material?
Because I Have Seen And Used Some On Sheet Metal That All You Needed Was A Small Pilot, And It Cut And Dimpled The Material All In One Shot.
Is There Any Specific Benifit To One Style Over The Other?
It Seems Eaiser And More Precise To Me To Use The Second One Mentioned, All Less Consumables, Burning Up Hole Saws?

Thanks

What's With The Caps?

They do make dies that cut the hole in heavier sheet/ light plate for use with iron workers and such. I've never used them-just seen them advertised. I remember seeing that pirhana made them specifically for their machines. Surely sombody would make some for use in a press. You will probably still have to drill a pilot hole.

Cannon Motorsports · 07-30-2004, 10:07 PM

Does anyone on this site make thier own dimple dies? I am very interested in buying some but I am limited on cash.

braxton357 · 07-31-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Motorsports

Does anyone on this site make thier own dimple dies? I am very interested in buying some but I am limited on cash.

d.d. machine ...does some cool stuff, check teh vendors section.

lilscorpion · 08-02-2004, 10:39 PM

I made my own. Takes a little bit of math to figure out what the void needs to be between the male and female dies but for the most part, anyone with a lathe could make a set. If you had the correct tooling you could probably make a set on a mill too.

The dimple part of the die is basically a 45* chamfer (but you could make yours custom if you'd like) and the rest falls under simple lathe operations.

I'd bet someone could come up with a way to build some poor-man dies with common hardware store parts...finding the 45* part would be the challenge but with a welder you could almost use simple tubing for the rest.

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GOAT1 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5969 Location: Bloomfield, WI Posts: 2,843	most of the dimple dies that punch are only made for thinner gage material, probably thinner than most people use around here. I dont dimple die any thing over 1/8, it is hard to do and just doesnt work well, it really distorts the entire plate. __________________ goatbuilt.com drew@goatbuilt.com IBEX 4-SEAT BUILD THREAD GIVEAWAY>>>SHOCK SPACER INSTALL PIN

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lilscorpion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 14762 Location: Denver Posts: 163	I made my own. Takes a little bit of math to figure out what the void needs to be between the male and female dies but for the most part, anyone with a lathe could make a set. If you had the correct tooling you could probably make a set on a mill too. The dimple part of the die is basically a 45* chamfer (but you could make yours custom if you'd like) and the rest falls under simple lathe operations. I'd bet someone could come up with a way to build some poor-man dies with common hardware store parts...finding the 45* part would be the challenge but with a welder you could almost use simple tubing for the rest. Last edited by lilscorpion; 08-02-2004 at 10:40 PM.

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Cannon Motorsports Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 32492 Posts: 21	Does anyone on this site make thier own dimple dies? I am very interested in buying some but I am limited on cash.

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