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big97redtj · 08-06-2004, 11:09 AM

I just had something very unusual happen to me here at work. I welded for about an hour before lunch using an oldschool non auto darkening helmet. My boss removed the protective plastic lenses a while ago because they were filthy (I just found this out). Well, needless to say during lunch the shop guys heard a crack. They figured it was just a weld cooling down. I went back to weld a few more parts and saw glass everywhere. The glass lense imploded into the helmet. I'm so fawking happy right now because my head wasn't in it when it happened. Needless to say, I now have a nice new helmet (Optrel) on the way. Being a cheap boss doesn't always pay as I've asked for a new helmet for about a year.

Note: This is not at my business, this is my day job. That's why we have employees... I'll stick with my Speed Glass at the shop.

OlBlueCJ7 · 08-06-2004, 11:16 AM

Your job furnishes your welding helmet? Must be nice.....
I've always run a clear cover lens on the inside and outside of my dark lens. I inevitably set it down when I'm cutting nearby, and end up getting splatter on the inside of the hood. The cover lens on the inside saves the dark lens.

big97redtj · 08-06-2004, 11:30 AM

Of course my job furnishes my welding helmet. 99.9% of the time I'm sitting behind a computer designing robotic welding systems and fixtures. The 0.1% of my time is spent welding, because I'm the one here that can throw down a bead.

I weld as a courtesy to my employer, not because it's my job description.

OlBlueCJ7 · 08-06-2004, 12:07 PM

Cookie?

big97redtj · 08-06-2004, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlBlueCJ7

Cookie?

Obviously you failed to see the reason for my post.

morpheus · 08-06-2004, 12:27 PM

that could have been bad news. I wear safety glasses even with my welding helmet on ...

F-Trooper · 08-06-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big97redtj

Obviously you failed to see the reason for my post.

so what your really saying is.....

"OSHA needs to have a little chat with my boss!"

thank god you weren't hurt

(you must be livin' right)

Gen. Nonsense · 08-06-2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by morpheus

that could have been bad news. I wear safety glasses even with my welding helmet on ...

Same here, I dont like to fawk around when it comes to my vision. Glad your head wasnt inside that thing.

GPERX4 · 08-07-2004, 04:01 AM

As cheap as the clear covers are it won't hurt to pick up some extra, thanks for the tip.

kwrangln · 08-07-2004, 05:05 AM

Been using the plastic covers inside and out for years now. Outside usually gets scratched worse than the inner so come replacement time swap the inside to the outside and new on inside. Never really thought about it, thought it was a fairly common practice. The guy who first started teaching me to weld gave me the helmet I still use and its been setup this way since I got it. Yea I still use a decade old welding helmet, I like it so why change.

jerseyzuks · 08-07-2004, 07:48 AM

Damn, that sucks. I had never even considered something like that before.

90% of the time, I do wear safety glasses inside my helmet. The only time I don't is when I am switching back and forth from cutting with the plasma cutter (goggles) to welding (helmet).

Thanks for the heads up. The fear of having 1000 glass shards stuck in my eyes should be motivation to wear safety glasses 100% of the time.

PTSchram · 08-07-2004, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by morpheus

I wear safety glasses even with my welding helmet on ...

The only glasses I own are Z 87 safety glasses. I will admit that I should wear the side shields more often, but at least I'm wearing safety glasses.

Wideopen · 08-07-2004, 04:58 PM

Fawk! I need to start wearing safety glasses! I can only imagine having my shield exploding leaving my face full of glass... Do you guy's think that the little plastic shield on the inside would help at all??

Brad · 08-07-2004, 05:10 PM

It should. I use the Z87 plastic sheilds on both sides of the lens and wear safety glasses too.

OlBlueCJ7 · 08-07-2004, 06:01 PM

How close do you hold your face to the weld that you were able to heat the lens up enough to cause it to crack from overheating? Would a shade lighter lens help so you could hold your face a little farther away? Or maybe your shop guys were screwing around and broke your lens... Just ideas.

big97redtj · 08-08-2004, 07:44 PM

I wasn't welding anything critical and was probably a foot and a half away from the weld. I guess the lense just gave up the ghost. I've 99.9% sure that it wasn't the guys in the shop.

masonmachines · 08-08-2004, 11:14 PM

YIKES, i will now start wearing glasses inside my mask.

fledgling666 · 08-09-2004, 11:43 AM

yeah, but HOW and WHY did the glass burst?

AthlonAJ · 08-09-2004, 11:46 AM

If you read his first post you'd see that his boss removed the inner and outer protective lenses. All it would take is a small piece of spatter to embed into the glass and keerack.

fledgling666 · 08-09-2004, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AthlonAJ

If you read his first post you'd see that his boss removed the inner and outer protective lenses. All it would take is a small piece of spatter to embed into the glass and keerack.

sorry, didn't think that would happen and if it did, i figured it should happen much more quickly than that.

Crawlin_TJ · 08-10-2004, 07:12 AM

So you think this was heat from welding or a bit of slag got onto your lense?

I'm more interested in thoughts on how this happened...

Thanks.

broncorob · 08-10-2004, 07:46 AM

Fawk people. It's not like he ran an experiment in a lab. He wasn't near the helmet when it happened. He's just saying be careful because weird shit happens sometimes

sureshot40sw · 01-07-2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big97redtj

I now have a nice new helmet (Optrel) on the way.

how do you like it.... ?? I'm looking for a new mask and found the Satellite .... the rounded design looks like it would fit into tight spots a little better...

any thoughts on the Optrel Satellite ...?

http://cgi.ebay.com/BLUE-OPTREL-SATE...ayphotohosting

http://www.optrel.com/index2.htm

and yea... I SEARCHED... how do you think I found this thread...

Todd W · 01-07-2007, 02:02 PM

Shoulda started a new thread atleast :-P

sureshot40sw · 01-07-2007, 02:09 PM

ok.. I found what I was looking for except the viewing size... anybody have an idea ....?

Quote:

Shoulda started a new thread atleast :-P

ya think....?

08-06-2004, 11:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
big97redtj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11356 Posts: 644	Shop Safety - Welding Helmets I just had something very unusual happen to me here at work. I welded for about an hour before lunch using an oldschool non auto darkening helmet. My boss removed the protective plastic lenses a while ago because they were filthy (I just found this out). Well, needless to say during lunch the shop guys heard a crack. They figured it was just a weld cooling down. I went back to weld a few more parts and saw glass everywhere. The glass lense imploded into the helmet. I'm so fawking happy right now because my head wasn't in it when it happened. Needless to say, I now have a nice new helmet (Optrel) on the way. Being a cheap boss doesn't always pay as I've asked for a new helmet for about a year. Note: This is not at my business, this is my day job. That's why we have employees... I'll stick with my Speed Glass at the shop.

08-06-2004, 12:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
morpheus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6291 Location: Decatur, AL Posts: 3,220	that could have been bad news. I wear safety glasses even with my welding helmet on ... __________________ [list][*][url="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373488"][COLOR=lime]For sale: Ford D60 parts, D44 steering arms, etc ... [/COLOR] [/url] [/list]

08-07-2004, 04:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
GPERX4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12414 Posts: 775	As cheap as the clear covers are it won't hurt to pick up some extra, thanks for the tip. __________________ Team Devil Frogg Kettering, Ohio

08-07-2004, 05:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	Been using the plastic covers inside and out for years now. Outside usually gets scratched worse than the inner so come replacement time swap the inside to the outside and new on inside. Never really thought about it, thought it was a fairly common practice. The guy who first started teaching me to weld gave me the helmet I still use and its been setup this way since I got it. Yea I still use a decade old welding helmet, I like it so why change. __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

08-07-2004, 07:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
jerseyzuks Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24273 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 1,413	Damn, that sucks. I had never even considered something like that before. 90% of the time, I do wear safety glasses inside my helmet. The only time I don't is when I am switching back and forth from cutting with the plasma cutter (goggles) to welding (helmet). Thanks for the heads up. The fear of having 1000 glass shards stuck in my eyes should be motivation to wear safety glasses 100% of the time. __________________ gunracer1- You must have the reading comprehension of a first graded

08-06-2004, 11:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
OlBlueCJ7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24091 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 850	Your job furnishes your welding helmet? Must be nice..... I've always run a clear cover lens on the inside and outside of my dark lens. I inevitably set it down when I'm cutting nearby, and end up getting splatter on the inside of the hood. The cover lens on the inside saves the dark lens.

08-06-2004, 11:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
big97redtj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11356 Posts: 644	Of course my job furnishes my welding helmet. 99.9% of the time I'm sitting behind a computer designing robotic welding systems and fixtures. The 0.1% of my time is spent welding, because I'm the one here that can throw down a bead. I weld as a courtesy to my employer, not because it's my job description.

08-06-2004, 12:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
OlBlueCJ7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24091 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 850	Cookie?

08-07-2004, 04:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wideopen Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22380 Location: Camas Wa. Posts: 630	Fawk! I need to start wearing safety glasses! I can only imagine having my shield exploding leaving my face full of glass... Do you guy's think that the little plastic shield on the inside would help at all??

08-07-2004, 05:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Brad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3239 Location: Benicia,CA Posts: 7,444	It should. I use the Z87 plastic sheilds on both sides of the lens and wear safety glasses too. __________________ B-RAD Fabrication TDO DYSFUNCTIONAL ROCKCRAWLERS

08-07-2004, 06:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
OlBlueCJ7 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24091 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 850	How close do you hold your face to the weld that you were able to heat the lens up enough to cause it to crack from overheating? Would a shade lighter lens help so you could hold your face a little farther away? Or maybe your shop guys were screwing around and broke your lens... Just ideas.

08-08-2004, 07:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
big97redtj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11356 Posts: 644	I wasn't welding anything critical and was probably a foot and a half away from the weld. I guess the lense just gave up the ghost. I've 99.9% sure that it wasn't the guys in the shop.

08-08-2004, 11:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
masonmachines Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10736 Posts: 2,013	YIKES, i will now start wearing glasses inside my mask.

08-09-2004, 11:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
fledgling666 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11425 Location: sananto Posts: 1,365	yeah, but HOW and WHY did the glass burst? __________________ [I][SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]"do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I]

08-09-2004, 11:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
AthlonAJ Potted Meat Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10462 Location: Iowa Posts: 948	If you read his first post you'd see that his boss removed the inner and outer protective lenses. All it would take is a small piece of spatter to embed into the glass and keerack.

08-10-2004, 07:12 AM	#21 (permalink)
Crawlin_TJ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 32879 Location: F-red necks-burg, VA Posts: 64	So you think this was heat from welding or a bit of slag got onto your lense? I'm more interested in thoughts on how this happened... Thanks.

08-10-2004, 07:46 AM	#22 (permalink)
broncorob Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8228 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,230	Fawk people. It's not like he ran an experiment in a lab. He wasn't near the helmet when it happened. He's just saying be careful because weird shit happens sometimes __________________ Rob Ellis

01-07-2007, 02:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
Todd W I make websites! Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12429 Location: Rubicon Trail - CA Posts: 10,332 Blog Entries: 9	Shoulda started a new thread atleast :-P __________________ My 4x4 Blog Rockwell axles too!

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