I am going to be installing a steel chimney liner inside my existing masonry chimney and I am looking for any ideas to make working on my 12/12 pitch, 30 foot high roof with my hands full less treacherous aside from a fall arrester ($$$) and the obvious shingle jacks. I was up there yesterday and it is so steep my shoes slip on the shingles on the way up and down. I am not really afraid of heights, I just don't want to slip and die, if you follow. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I am going to be installing a steel chimney liner inside my existing masonry chimney and I am looking for any ideas to make working on my 12/12 pitch, 30 foot high roof with my hands full less treacherous aside from a fall arrester ($$$) and the obvious shingle jacks. I was up there yesterday and it is so steep my shoes slip on the shingles on the way up and down. I am not really afraid of heights, I just don't want to slip and die, if you follow. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
You didn't mention your budget...but have you looked into an all-terrain sky lift such as a Genie? You would need enough clearance to manuveur (sp) it and a place that rented one. When I worked for a tree service company they had one that was self-propelled, had looong outriggers and had 40'-50' boom on it. It made those pucker jobs rediculously easy.
If your chimney is attached to an exterior wall, could you put the basket right next to it? That way the roof wouldn't interfere with the bucket. It would even help you carry the materials up to the worksite.
I had thought of that. The chimney is located about 2' in so a lift may work if it is positioned correctly. I also failed to mention that the roof has 2 dormers on it so tit looks like a + from the top. Getting past the dormers overhang puts me as close to the edge as I dare get. Power lines run about 12' away on the chimney side of the house, and that is another complicating factor.
I'd get some roof jacks that would support at least a 2x8. If it was me I would use a couple sets and rig up a nice platform around the chimney. It wouldn't be a bad idea to tie yourself off by throwing a rope over the roof and tying it to your bumper or other solid object. Bouncing off the ground really sucks!
Yeah, i think i am going to rent a lift. 160 bucks is cheap for safety and peace of mind. plus, I will get all my materials up at once. I never though of tying off to the bumper. Good Idea. Just not for me.
A ladder laying flat on the roof extending to the ground works good for gitting up there. You can stack the ladders if you need to. Pull your materials up the ladder with a rope and you wont damage your roof. Good luck dont fall.
I'd get some roof jacks that would support at least a 2x8. If it was me I would use a couple sets and rig up a nice platform around the chimney. It wouldn't be a bad idea to tie yourself off by throwing a rope over the roof and tying it to your bumper or other solid object. Bouncing off the ground really sucks!
I'm not scolding you, but I'd be careful about EVER tying myself to a vehicle, even a parked vehicle. I've heard of people not chocking the wheels or the weight of someone unsetting the parking pawl of an auto tranny and then bad things happen.
While this doesn't merit your exact situation, the thing about a tying off to a vehicle is that you have no control over your setup. You cannot be assured that the vehicle will stay parked. I've seen "climbers" have someone else pull them up a tree via a rope over a branch and a vehicle. It works, but what if the driver has a heart attack and stands on the accelerator?
Soft foam works, but it seems hokey as hell and is a bit strange getting used to. It works, but I don't like it.
I usually use a climbing harness (no over-the-shoulder fall protection, just a saddle w/ a front D-ring) and an ascender to move around, with the rope tied off to something solid, even if it's all the way over the house on the ground. You get 2 hands free, but changing position a great deal can be tricky with your hands full.
Redundant safety usually can't hurt - it takes about 5 minutes to set 2 roof jacks & a plank. If they're set right, you can lay a ladder on the roof, with the feet on the plank, and it's a staircase. Works way slick, and super simple.
Since you're doing a chimney liner, I imagine you actually have to work well above the roof surface. This being the case, a man lift makes sense. I've used a Genie TMZ 5030 a number of times - it tows around behind a truck, has its own brakes, and you can drive it around the yard unhitched. Self leveling, bells & whistles, etc. 50 ft of vertical reach, and they're pretty solid. They can save your back a bit too, compared to humping stuff up a ladder.
My $.02, relatively free of opinion, and hopefully laced with some decent input.
You point is a damn fine one and well taken. It still seems there are a surprising number of things around a house that I would less comfortable tied off to.
You know, I see a great idea for a beer commercial in here somewhere! :flipoff2:
You point is a damn fine one and well taken. It still seems there are a surprising number of things around a house that I would less comfortable tied off to.
You know, I see a great idea for a beer commercial in here somewhere! :flipoff2:
Guy 1: Prepares to do some roofing. Ties harness to bumper of 4x4. Climbs
roof and begins repairing whatever.
Guy 2: Like all good friends, stays out of the real work and enjoys comfort in
the shade.
Guy 1: Yells, shoot! I bought siding nails instead of roofing nails. Then
shouts to friend, "hey, go to the hardware store and get 5 lb of 7/8"
roofing nails.
Guy 2: Not wanting to burn his own fuel, high gas prices and all, immediately
jumps into said buddy's 4x4 and takes off...with his friend attached to
the bumper..
Camera pans at front of vehicle so it faces the rear, Full frontal view of driver and rear view of friend gleefully being pulled across the avenue.
INTRO cheesy theme music and announcer voice:
When it seems you are being pulled down by your work, go ask the
king for a break....Budweiser.
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