Dry Cut Saw Blades - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Nigel · 11-16-2005, 07:33 PM

Those of you who own dry cut saws- What kind of blades are you using?

i have a milwaulkee that has been great but I replaced the blade with a dewalt (what I could get on short notice) and the cut quality sucks and it is dulling much more quickly.

Any advise?

Old Scout · 11-16-2005, 08:36 PM

If you think the blades suck you should try the saw!

Check out e-bay for Freud Steel Demons. Best blade I've put in my POS DeWalt.

Todd W · 11-16-2005, 08:49 PM

OS - How long do those last?

Nigel · 11-16-2005, 08:58 PM

How much do you pay for the freud blades?

Old Scout · 11-16-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nigel

How much do you pay for the freud blades?

I bought a 4 pac off of e-bay for ~135.00 to my door.

Ive yet to ware one out so I don't know how long they last. There a shit load sharper and smoother than my last $110.00 Dewalt blade.

Todd W · 11-16-2005, 10:01 PM

Guessing you can't use one of these on a chopsaw can ya

Old Scout · 11-16-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd W

Guessing you can't use one of these on a chopsaw can ya

No need to guess, just look!

customfab · 11-16-2005, 10:09 PM

Yeah, my brother has the DeWalt. The Dewalt blades SUCK ass! I've heard that Evolutions are good. I'm cutting with a Tenryu blade and it is of better quality that the Dewalt blades.
Both the Milwaukee and Dewalt machines are essentially economy machines. But the DeWalt does a good job from what I've seen.

Old Scout · 11-16-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by customfab

Yeah, my brother has the DeWalt. The Dewalt blades SUCK ass! I've heard that Evolutions are good. I'm cutting with a Tenryu blade and it is of better quality that the Dewalt blades.
Both the Milwaukee and Dewalt machines are essentially economy machines. But the DeWalt does a good job from what I've seen.

At ~$450.00 and 2x the cost of a cut off saw there not that much of a " economy machine"

The Milwaukee has a nice stiff/heavy cast iron base. The dewalt has a flimsy and thin pressed sheet metal base. If you don't take the time and set up your material perfectly in the dewalt it will distort and cut crooked.

Todd W · 11-16-2005, 10:36 PM

At $8 a blade for the chopsaw I guess i`ll be sticking to that for now... I think for the $500 range I`ll be looking for a used horizontal bandsaw.

Old Scout · 11-16-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd W

At $8 a blade for the chopsaw I guess i`ll be sticking to that for now... I think for the $500 range I`ll be looking for a used horizontal bandsaw.

Let me know if you find a place to sharpen your $8 blade!

Todd W · 11-16-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Scout

Let me know if you find a place to sharpen your $8 blade!

my wallet

Reflexx · 11-16-2005, 11:47 PM

do these work on metal siding 26/24ga???

I'm assuming you use these in a regular circular saw?

Yes, someone has to ask the obvious questions.

thanks,

REFLEXX

Nigel · 11-17-2005, 05:26 AM

the chop saw arguement always come up from people that have not used one of these. Every sceptic I have had in the shop has sworn off chop saws after one cut. I think alot of the issue with teh dewalt blade is poor construction, and thinner material. I have nothing bad at all to say about the milwaukee saw just this blade. i ordered a freud off ebay last night to give that a try.

Old Scout · 11-17-2005, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflexx

do these work on metal siding 26/24ga???

I'm assuming you use these in a regular circular saw?

Yes, someone has to ask the obvious questions.

thanks,

REFLEXX

Let me know when you find a 14" circular saw!

Trailer Guy · 11-17-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Scout

Let me know when you find a 14" circular saw!

They do make blades just like these for circular saws. We use them in my shop to rip sheets of steel, with a worm drive saw.
We use the industrial version dry/cold cut saw from Makita in our shop. Works great! The dry/cold cut saws have many great things going for them. Yes they cost more than a standard cut-off saw, about the same as a band saw. But they are just as fast as a cut-off saw (way faster than a band saw), and you can touch the cut area right away without feeling any heat from the material. For production, they are great. And after having one, I wouldn't buy a cut-off for my home, I would go with a dry/cold cut saw. When building cages, or any tube work, they are very nice. You can quickly make a cut, double check the length of the tube and then notch. Yes, you can do this with a cut-off saw, but the material gets really hot. No heat with these types of saws. Having the material stay cool to the touch is a huge deal, you just never notice it untell you use one. We have two band saws, neither one gets very much use now that we have the dry/cold saw. The cut-off saw is now just a dust collector. Our iron worker doesn't even get used as much now (which to me is stupid). I pay about $80 per blade from our local welding supplier. Each blade last us about 2 months. The shop runs through about $5,000 of steel each month, so the blades do last a while. Using one at home, you may only go through one blade a year, or less.

Toyota_Jim · 11-17-2005, 03:38 PM

Freud's here.

customfab · 12-06-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Scout

At ~$450.00 and 2x the cost of a cut off saw there not that much of a " economy machine"

The Milwaukee has a nice stiff/heavy cast iron base. The dewalt has a flimsy and thin pressed sheet metal base. If you don't take the time and set up your material perfectly in the dewalt it will distort and cut crooked.

Only reason I say economy is because they are not industrial strength saws. Having said that, I haven't personally used a Milwaukee but have heard from experienced users that they don't quite cut it for industrial applications. I'm also biased because a own a Jepson dry cut saw which is ONLY $1000. Yes, ouch but I bought mine used for a steal on Ebay. These saws are top of the line and the quality is very noticeable. Would I pay the additonal $500 for the Jepson line? Not retail.

85 Chevota · 12-06-2005, 10:25 PM

I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great.

D60 · 12-07-2005, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 85 Chevota

I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great.

Yikes!

Aces'n'8s · 12-07-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 85 Chevota

I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great.

The Hindenburg, as well as other dirigibles, had been using hydrogen gas for years before its demise.

85 Chevota · 12-07-2005, 09:59 AM

I was given the blade for free, and I already had the chopsaw, so I thought 'what the hell'

It actually does work well.

jeepn4life · 12-07-2005, 10:47 AM

there is a MAX RPM on that blade for a reason... I dont know what the reason is, but it is there. After seeing the stiches the guy neeed when he had a grinding wheel break and hit him in the face, I would be real worried about running a metal cutting blade at 2-3 times its MAX speed...

85 Chevota · 12-07-2005, 11:03 AM

Max RPM on the blade is 3000, i'm running it at 4400....big deal. I also turn my small block to 7200 rpm, when the factory redline was 4600. Guess I should stop that too, right? The factory tires on my toyota was 28", but it has 35's on it now....I better hurry and get them off before they cause me to crash into a busload of nuns....

YEAGER · 12-09-2005, 06:34 PM

I run load B tires at 55 PSI...with great success! ON MY TRAILOR!

11-16-2005, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nigel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10264 Location: Elma, NY Posts: 175	Dry Cut Saw Blades Those of you who own dry cut saws- What kind of blades are you using? i have a milwaulkee that has been great but I replaced the blade with a dewalt (what I could get on short notice) and the cut quality sucks and it is dulling much more quickly. Any advise?

11-16-2005, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	If you think the blades suck you should try the saw! Check out e-bay for Freud Steel Demons. Best blade I've put in my POS DeWalt. __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html Last edited by Old Scout; 11-16-2005 at 08:36 PM.

11-16-2005, 08:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
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customfab Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27595 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 276	Yeah, my brother has the DeWalt. The Dewalt blades SUCK ass! I've heard that Evolutions are good. I'm cutting with a Tenryu blade and it is of better quality that the Dewalt blades. Both the Milwaukee and Dewalt machines are essentially economy machines. But the DeWalt does a good job from what I've seen. __________________ -82 CJ5, 388 stroker, Vortec heads, Q-Jet, 4.56s, F/R ARBs, SM465 & 203/205 32 spline, 37", Hummer rims, F/R D60s, 35 spline shafts F/R, 1410 u-joints, disc brakes, 99" wheelbase, on-board air, Warn 12K. -74 CJ5, in pieces, 392 Windsor stroker awaiting "If you didn't build it then go home."

11-16-2005, 08:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nigel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10264 Location: Elma, NY Posts: 175	How much do you pay for the freud blades?

11-16-2005, 10:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Todd W I make websites! Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12429 Location: Rubicon Trail - CA Posts: 10,332 Blog Entries: 9	At $8 a blade for the chopsaw I guess i`ll be sticking to that for now... I think for the $500 range I`ll be looking for a used horizontal bandsaw. __________________ My 4x4 Blog Rockwell axles too!

11-16-2005, 11:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Reflexx Vocademy founder. Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38100 Location: Riversize, CA Posts: 277	do these work on metal siding 26/24ga??? I'm assuming you use these in a regular circular saw? Yes, someone has to ask the obvious questions. thanks, REFLEXX

11-17-2005, 05:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
Nigel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10264 Location: Elma, NY Posts: 175	the chop saw arguement always come up from people that have not used one of these. Every sceptic I have had in the shop has sworn off chop saws after one cut. I think alot of the issue with teh dewalt blade is poor construction, and thinner material. I have nothing bad at all to say about the milwaukee saw just this blade. i ordered a freud off ebay last night to give that a try.

11-17-2005, 03:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
Toyota_Jim Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2967 Location: Down yonder Posts: 2,247	Freud's here. __________________ Everyone said there would be bad days, I just never figured there would be this many.

12-06-2005, 10:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
85 Chevota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14538 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada Posts: 402	I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great. __________________ -Darren -85 Toy, 4.3, 700r4, 5.29's, Detroits, 35" Swampers -09 Kawasaki Teryx -04 Skidoo MXZ 600 REV -04 Ram 2500, Cummins, 6spd

12-07-2005, 09:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
85 Chevota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14538 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada Posts: 402	I was given the blade for free, and I already had the chopsaw, so I thought 'what the hell' It actually does work well. __________________ -Darren -85 Toy, 4.3, 700r4, 5.29's, Detroits, 35" Swampers -09 Kawasaki Teryx -04 Skidoo MXZ 600 REV -04 Ram 2500, Cummins, 6spd

12-07-2005, 10:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
jeepn4life Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 42292 Posts: 701	there is a MAX RPM on that blade for a reason... I dont know what the reason is, but it is there. After seeing the stiches the guy neeed when he had a grinding wheel break and hit him in the face, I would be real worried about running a metal cutting blade at 2-3 times its MAX speed...

12-07-2005, 11:03 AM	#24 (permalink)
85 Chevota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14538 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada Posts: 402	Max RPM on the blade is 3000, i'm running it at 4400....big deal. I also turn my small block to 7200 rpm, when the factory redline was 4600. Guess I should stop that too, right? The factory tires on my toyota was 28", but it has 35's on it now....I better hurry and get them off before they cause me to crash into a busload of nuns.... __________________ -Darren -85 Toy, 4.3, 700r4, 5.29's, Detroits, 35" Swampers -09 Kawasaki Teryx -04 Skidoo MXZ 600 REV -04 Ram 2500, Cummins, 6spd

12-09-2005, 06:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
YEAGER Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49668 Posts: 31	I run load B tires at 55 PSI...with great success! ON MY TRAILOR!

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