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Old 11-16-2005, 07:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dry Cut Saw Blades

Those of you who own dry cut saws- What kind of blades are you using?

i have a milwaulkee that has been great but I replaced the blade with a dewalt (what I could get on short notice) and the cut quality sucks and it is dulling much more quickly.

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If you think the blades suck you should try the saw!

Check out e-bay for Freud Steel Demons. Best blade I've put in my POS DeWalt.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How much do you pay for the freud blades?
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How much do you pay for the freud blades?
I bought a 4 pac off of e-bay for ~135.00 to my door.

Ive yet to ware one out so I don't know how long they last. There a shit load sharper and smoother than my last $110.00 Dewalt blade.
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Guessing you can't use one of these on a chopsaw can ya
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Guessing you can't use one of these on a chopsaw can ya
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Yeah, my brother has the DeWalt. The Dewalt blades SUCK ass! I've heard that Evolutions are good. I'm cutting with a Tenryu blade and it is of better quality that the Dewalt blades.
Both the Milwaukee and Dewalt machines are essentially economy machines. But the DeWalt does a good job from what I've seen.
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Yeah, my brother has the DeWalt. The Dewalt blades SUCK ass! I've heard that Evolutions are good. I'm cutting with a Tenryu blade and it is of better quality that the Dewalt blades.
Both the Milwaukee and Dewalt machines are essentially economy machines. But the DeWalt does a good job from what I've seen.
At ~$450.00 and 2x the cost of a cut off saw there not that much of a " economy machine"

The Milwaukee has a nice stiff/heavy cast iron base. The dewalt has a flimsy and thin pressed sheet metal base. If you don't take the time and set up your material perfectly in the dewalt it will distort and cut crooked.
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At $8 a blade for the chopsaw I guess i`ll be sticking to that for now... I think for the $500 range I`ll be looking for a used horizontal bandsaw.
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At $8 a blade for the chopsaw I guess i`ll be sticking to that for now... I think for the $500 range I`ll be looking for a used horizontal bandsaw.
Let me know if you find a place to sharpen your $8 blade!
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do these work on metal siding 26/24ga???

I'm assuming you use these in a regular circular saw?

Yes, someone has to ask the obvious questions.


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the chop saw arguement always come up from people that have not used one of these. Every sceptic I have had in the shop has sworn off chop saws after one cut. I think alot of the issue with teh dewalt blade is poor construction, and thinner material. I have nothing bad at all to say about the milwaukee saw just this blade. i ordered a freud off ebay last night to give that a try.
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do these work on metal siding 26/24ga???

I'm assuming you use these in a regular circular saw?

Yes, someone has to ask the obvious questions.


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Let me know when you find a 14" circular saw!
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Let me know when you find a 14" circular saw!
They do make blades just like these for circular saws. We use them in my shop to rip sheets of steel, with a worm drive saw.
We use the industrial version dry/cold cut saw from Makita in our shop. Works great! The dry/cold cut saws have many great things going for them. Yes they cost more than a standard cut-off saw, about the same as a band saw. But they are just as fast as a cut-off saw (way faster than a band saw), and you can touch the cut area right away without feeling any heat from the material. For production, they are great. And after having one, I wouldn't buy a cut-off for my home, I would go with a dry/cold cut saw. When building cages, or any tube work, they are very nice. You can quickly make a cut, double check the length of the tube and then notch. Yes, you can do this with a cut-off saw, but the material gets really hot. No heat with these types of saws. Having the material stay cool to the touch is a huge deal, you just never notice it untell you use one. We have two band saws, neither one gets very much use now that we have the dry/cold saw. The cut-off saw is now just a dust collector. Our iron worker doesn't even get used as much now (which to me is stupid). I pay about $80 per blade from our local welding supplier. Each blade last us about 2 months. The shop runs through about $5,000 of steel each month, so the blades do last a while. Using one at home, you may only go through one blade a year, or less.
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At ~$450.00 and 2x the cost of a cut off saw there not that much of a " economy machine"

The Milwaukee has a nice stiff/heavy cast iron base. The dewalt has a flimsy and thin pressed sheet metal base. If you don't take the time and set up your material perfectly in the dewalt it will distort and cut crooked.
Only reason I say economy is because they are not industrial strength saws. Having said that, I haven't personally used a Milwaukee but have heard from experienced users that they don't quite cut it for industrial applications. I'm also biased because a own a Jepson dry cut saw which is ONLY $1000. Yes, ouch but I bought mine used for a steal on Ebay. These saws are top of the line and the quality is very noticeable. Would I pay the additonal $500 for the Jepson line? Not retail.
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I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great.
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I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great.
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I've been using a dry cut blade in my regular 4400 rpm chopsaw for the last 4 years. Works great.

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I was given the blade for free, and I already had the chopsaw, so I thought 'what the hell'

It actually does work well.
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there is a MAX RPM on that blade for a reason... I dont know what the reason is, but it is there. After seeing the stiches the guy neeed when he had a grinding wheel break and hit him in the face, I would be real worried about running a metal cutting blade at 2-3 times its MAX speed...
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Max RPM on the blade is 3000, i'm running it at 4400....big deal. I also turn my small block to 7200 rpm, when the factory redline was 4600. Guess I should stop that too, right? The factory tires on my toyota was 28", but it has 35's on it now....I better hurry and get them off before they cause me to crash into a busload of nuns....
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