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Old 06-09-2007, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hobart HH180

I can pick this up for a decent price. Used, but very lightly. Comes with cart, a few misc. consumables (tips and wire), regulator, small bottle, autodarkening helmet. $450. Guy says he's only ran one spool of wire thru it, and I can believe it.

Anything I should look for? Besides the obvious does it turn on and work (couldn't turn it on when I was at his house earlier, he has to share the only 220 outlet with the stove and his wife was making supper).

It will be my first welder. Just small projects, like spring perches, making bumpers, sheet metal work, etc. Basic 4x4 hobbyist use.
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Go back and try it when the wife is not cooking. Bring the maximum plate thickness the unit will weld and see how it works.
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I've got one and love it.

I've used plenty of other mig setups, and have no regrets after getting the HH180. As long as it works, grab it, of course, try to talk him down a bit, 450 is a good price for a lightly used machine, but a bargain is a bargain.
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HH180 should do most everything you want to do 4x4 and hobby related.

The only time I crank up my powermig 255 is to spray and that's SUPER rare. You could of course use more power for axle tubes, cast, etc but I highly doubt that's "average" 4x4 hobbyst stuff

Get him down on price some and/or checkout ebay they go for pretty decent on their too.

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Old 06-09-2007, 09:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That is a good price, but keep in mind that HH187 replaced the HH180. HH187 has 7 voltage taps compared to 4 on HH180. Also, the HH187 fixed the issues of HH180 not welding very well on metal thicker than 1/8". HH187 will weld better on all voltage tap settings than the HH180.
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Sears.com has been selling the HH187 for 20% off recently and providing free shipping.
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I'm ing at the lincon 180C the c has varible voltage, & the miller 180, also varible, $715 FREE SHIPING on the miller EBAY
$699.95 on the lincon FREE SHIPPING EBAY

trying to get my welder buddys opinion, but he must be outa town.

might get a miller 210 he has used very little too.

I just sold a hobart 135-115v & it did great, but since I got a 220 generator for my plasma, I decided to upgrade, it sold in less then 24 hours, so if you want that used maching, you better jump on it, they don't seem to last long!

recon 180's are $459 on ebay by the way, you might think about that too

& a bottle will run ya $120-150, a fill up $35-55
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recon 180's are $459 on ebay by the way, you might think about that too

& a bottle will run ya $120-150, a fill up $35-55
I had seen that, I think this is a good deal because the bottle comes with it. I don't know if that will present a problem or not when I have to refill it. It is one of the smaller bottles tho, not the tall one.

It also has the cart and some extras. That was why I thought it was a good deal.

I looked at Sears.com and did not see the HH187? Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
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might get a miller 210 he has used very little too.
If there is any way you an buy the MM210, I'd do it. MM210 is a VERY good welder that will lay down some nice beads. It has a very nice arc and works well in all voltage tap settings.
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I had seen that, I think this is a good deal because the bottle comes with it. I don't know if that will present a problem or not when I have to refill it. It is one of the smaller bottles tho, not the tall one.

It also has the cart and some extras. That was why I thought it was a good deal.

I looked at Sears.com and did not see the HH187? Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
bottle & cart sounds like a good deal!

I use the gold mix gas I think it's called, suposed toi be cleaner then plain CO2, no idea, never tried CO2 only,swapping bottles at a refill place is iffty,I own my bottle so I swap, you could end up with a rentel bottle they take away if you have no poper work, also look for latest date stamped on bottle, they need tested every ? 6 years ?
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If there is any way you an buy the MM210, I'd do it. MM210 is a VERY good welder that will lay down some nice beads. It has a very nice arc and works well in all voltage tap settings.

I'm going to try, he offered up a craxy good deal a few months ago, but I don't have time to drive to get it 6 hours round trip, so I'll see about maybe shipping if he stilll has it
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I looked at Sears.com and did not see the HH187? Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
Go to Sears.com, type in "Hobart 187" in the search box, and hit the enter key.
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Go to Sears.com, type in "Hobart 187" in the search box, and hit the enter key.
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I see free shipping at $679, don't see 20% off, ebay they are $622


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The 20% off expired the second week of May, I'm pretty sure. I was looking at buying the hh187 when sears online had anything over $399 is 20% off sale but didn't have the coin. It was a bit under $550 with that deal and free shipping.
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The 20% off expired the second week of May, I'm pretty sure. I was looking at buying the hh187 when sears online had anything over $399 is 20% off sale but didn't have the coin. It was a bit under $550 with that deal and free shipping.
It was being offered during the week of May 27th. 20% off any tool purchase $500 or more. The prior week, it wasn't offered, and the week prior to that, it WAS offered.

Hell I don't know. Check back next week. I got mine delivered to my door for $597 two or three weeks ago.
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I got my powermig255 w/bottle and spot/stich add-on and some consumables for $900. I see them going for $1000 to $1500 if you are wanting something that big.

Darren, look at the drive roll mechanism on the Lincoln vs. Miller that's why in the end I went w/the Lincoln.

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I got my powermig255 w/bottle and spot/stich add-on and some consumables for $900. I see them going for $1000 to $1500 if you are wanting something that big.

Darren, look at the drive roll mechanism on the Lincoln vs. Miller that's why in the end I went w/the Lincoln.

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Todd,

What are the main differences in the drive roll mechanisms for Miller (not Hobart) and Lincoln? Does Lincoln use a 4 roller like Esab? Just curious since I've never had an issue with feeding on my MM200 or MM210... BTW, nice score on the PM255...

I see you some discussion about the drive roll mechanism here..
http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/...t=powermig+255

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Here's a link they may be of interest to those wanting a HH187 on the cheap.

http://www.toolking.com/productinfo....roductid=25982
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Here's a link they may be of interest to those wanting a HH187 on the cheap.

http://www.toolking.com/productinfo....roductid=25982
I'll second Tool King for welder shipping. I bought a refurb'd Hobart 125 in November, and went with the $7.99 shipping option. I ordered on a Sunday Night or so, and had it by Thursday.
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Here's a link they may be of interest to those wanting a HH187 on the cheap.

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Holy Hell!

thanks for that leenk.
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Dont buy anything yet. Hobart is coming out with a HH210. I know what you are thinking and it is not an Ironman 210. You may want to wait and check it out.

Here's a link talking about it over at the Hobart board.

http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/...ad.php?t=25436
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Dont buy anything yet. Hobart is coming out with a HH210. I know what you are thinking and it is not an Ironman 210. You may want to wait and check it out.

Here's a link talking about it over at the Hobart board.

http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/...ad.php?t=25436

loks like my new welder..........now find it cheaper them $899 for me
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ANy issues with buying a "refurbished" HH187 like on the tool king link? I plan to buy a new MIG soon and was looking hard at the 187 from northern tool. What exactly do they refurbish?

Should I just hold out for the 210 like Seabass? The 210 sounds appealing since I will be narrowing some axle housing & stuff like that.

Basically I can buy the refurbished HH187 and a set of Dimple dies or just buy the HH210? the hh187 and dies was my orginal plan until I read up on the new 210.

Ideas, opinions, comments?
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ANy issues with buying a "refurbished" HH187 like on the tool king link? I plan to buy a new MIG soon and was looking hard at the 187 from northern tool. What exactly do they refurbish?

Should I just hold out for the 210 like Seabass? The 210 sounds appealing since I will be narrowing some axle housing & stuff like that.

Basically I can buy the refurbished HH187 and a set of Dimple dies or just buy the HH210? the hh187 and dies was my orginal plan until I read up on the new 210.

Ideas, opinions, comments?
generally speaking, a refurb is a new item that did not work when new and was sent back to the factory to be fixed, now it can not be sold as new, might have some scratches or little wear, as it could have been used a short time then quit.

I have never bought a refurb, but that 187 deal does look sweet!
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Thanks for the info on refurb units. Its tempting to pony up for the 210 but wow thats a great price on the tool king page, plus its in stock. Then I can get the light racing Dimple die set and still be under the price of the HH210, even after shipping.

I think thats the route I will go.
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