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Old 05-28-2008, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question HF TUBE KINKER modded to TUBE BENDER

I know from the HAMB and from this site and about 20 others that everyone says to avoid the HF pipe bender because, well it's a pipe bender not a tube bender. I can't afford to build a real tube bender so I had been searching for a long time to find a cheap one that will suit my needs when I stumbled upon this.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=266004
look for the posts from joescoolcustoms he is the guy who moded the thing.
It is a modified HF tube kinker and this guy swears it works great here is a picture of the roll cage he built with it.
Tell me what you guys think.
$69.99 on sale- 15%coupon=$59.49
I respect your opinions but I think this might be a good thing to try.
Please read the link and check out the pics before commenting
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hmm....
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Can someone explain what modification he did?
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I've done similar bends with mine with pipe to make bumpers no problem, wonder what mods he did to the dies to make them work with tube.
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Can someone explain what modification he did?
He basically added some metal straps/collars to go over the tubing that is in the HF die.. keeps the tubing from wanting to rise up out of the die in the middle and wrinkle.
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He basically added some metal straps/collars to go over the tubing that is in the HF die.. keeps the tubing from wanting to rise up out of the die in the middle and wrinkle.
Pictures would be good. Also, what size tube is he using? Pipe dies are different OD than tube OD so he had to modify something on the die, not just put some metal straps on.

Nevermind found the pictures. I might have to try that!
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Pictures would be good. Also, what size tube is he using? Pipe dies are different OD than tube OD so he had to modify something on the die, not just put some metal straps on.

Nevermind found the pictures. I might have to try that!
1 1/4" pipe dies fit 1 5/8" tubing.
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I read it about three or four times when I first stumbled upon it...but can't remember if he did anything else but the strap, but if I need to I can PM the guy.
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I saw a post once on a fabrication forum where a guy modified a HF pipe kinker. He built a bender similar to a Pro Tools, but using modified pipe bender dies. He built his own follower die. I think he was selling plans. I bookmarked it, and later found the post was removed. I think the forum considered it spam and banned the guy. I haven't found anything like it since.

As for me, I have a Pro Tools 105.
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think I may have to spring for one of these with my gov. check on sale right now 69.99
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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think I may have to spring for one of these with my gov. check on sale right now 69.99
I'm also thinking about trying this. The website doesn't list it for $69.99, is it on sale only in the store?

Anybody have some better pics of this guys mod? Is the only thing he added was the bend leaf spring? kinda hard to tell from the pics

I've got a cage that needs to be finished, but my friend sold his bender so now i'm stuck.
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I read it about three or four times when I first stumbled upon it...but can't remember if he did anything else but the strap, but if I need to I can PM the guy.

That would be good, I've look through it a few times and I must be missing something. That seems too easy to just be able to bend up tube.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I know what you mean seems too good to be true. Especially since everyone hates the things and tons of people always ask about them. And all it takes is a little modification and suddenly it is a perfectly good tube bender!??
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its only good to like 20 or 30 degrees nomatter what because of the die. and thier have been ways to stop the tubing from kinking for allong time. capping the ends and filling with water or sand. but i know guys that built hole truck cages using these benders. they just sanded the shit out of them for 1 3/4 inch tubing
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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strange? I see a 90 degree bend in the first picture posted.....
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I posted up here a few years ago about a bunch of bends I made using my kinker. The only ugly ones, were where I went over 90d. The key is finding a good die, some are poorly cast and cause kinks. I never had any problems on bends up to 45d.

The strap is a good idea, for tube that may not fit too well. One thing he does not show is how he kept the rollers from denting the tube. The old kinker thread describes how to eliminate this.
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strange? I see a 90 degree bend in the first picture posted.....
repositioning of the dies. takes a few times to get 90*. i mean 20-30 on first shot.
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I posted up here a few years ago about a bunch of bends I made using my kinker. The only ugly ones, were where I went over 90d. The key is finding a good die, some are poorly cast and cause kinks. I never had any problems on bends up to 45d.

The strap is a good idea, for tube that may not fit too well. One thing he does not show is how he kept the rollers from denting the tube. The old kinker thread describes how to eliminate this.
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got a link?
prob. this thread:
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old news.

i did this 2 years ago.
my buddy machined the pipe dies to fit tube. it works awsome for thicker tube. the tube pictured is 1.5 .250wall.
for .120 it works good but still has some minor deformation.

we also bent 2" .250 w/ it and it worked great.





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I used beer cans *hic* to fill the gap - aaaaalllllost of em *hic* - from the tubing fitting loose in the die - one shot deal but it helped stop some of the kinking - I haven't used that thing for quite a few years but won't sell it because sure as hell it'll come in handy for something.
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old news.

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for .120 it works good but still has some minor deformation.

we also bent 2" .250 w/ it and it worked great.

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prolly IMO the best way to bend tube that thick..

my puny ass pro to0ls would blow up it I tried to bend tube that thick
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I was planning on just using this thing for smaller crap like this .875 Outside diameter .083 Wall thickness.
Think it would work?
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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F The haters. I bet this works just fine if you use some finesse and care. Lube the die, make sure the fit is good, and take your time.

Post pictures.
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got a link?

sorry for the late reply,

That link above is the one I was refering to, see post #57 & beyond for my experiences.

here are some link from Ih8mud :

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...been-busy.html

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...e-carrier.html


some pics here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...uty-build.html
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