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Old 10-22-2008, 07:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Miller Dialarc HF Tig Welder??

I am looking at a used Tig, non-local to me and would need to be shipped. I have heard good things about this unit.

MILLER DIALARC HF 250AMP AC/DC TIG/ARC WELDER

What do they typically go for used, and should I be scared of a used unit?

I've never Tig'd before, but want to learn and need the ability to do aluminum at some point as well.

Anything I should ask about?
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How much are you looking to spend? If i am not mistaken thats a pretty old machine.
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This one?

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/tls/889728016.html

It's just a big old stick welder. Yes you could tig with it, but you could tig with any other AC/DC stick welder as well.
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Its the HF (High Frequency Model) It has all the TIG leads with it, looking at about $600

Rock Mafia, its much newer than that one
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Its the HF (High Frequency Model) It has all the TIG leads with it, looking at about $600

Rock Mafia, its much newer than that one

10-4. That might not be a bad deal.
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nice if it had a water cooler if it has a water cooled torch may have an air cooled torch. Ed
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Pretty good deal if it has accessories. As for age ask for the serial number and post it. It is a mag-amp machine. If using a foot control the output is a bit slow to react. Miller still sells the stick only machine....no HF. Tried and true design.
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Great machine, but sucks up some serious power, I think it requires 70amp service?
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If your going to use this welder at home check your electrical. Also, make sure it is single phase 60hz if your using it at home.
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I bought a Dialarc HF, just like the one shown in the picture below, last year for $1000. It came with an empty ownership bottle, a water cooled Weldcraft torch, cooler, foot remote, and a bunch of extra cups, tips and tungsten. I have used mine a lot for steel, aluminum and stainless and it has performed very well. I run mine on a dedicated 40amp, 220V line and it will easily pop the breaker if I crank up the machine. I originally installed the 40amp line to run my plasma cutter and mig welder. After buying the Dialarc I wish I had installed a 60amp line.

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Are you buying it AS IS or do they stand behind it.

I myself would not buy a used welder with out making sure it all works like it should.

Thing with used welders is they could die at any time. Fix that part the next part in the system fails I have seen it to often.

For what it`s worth my 2 cents
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Great info guys, here is the serial number.

JE766593

It is from a dealer, used, as-is.
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Not water cooled, comes with Miller Foot Control
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They are a good machine. We got one last year for $400, with a water cooled torch, regulator and foot pedal.

Ours was pretty rusty on the panels, so we panted it black and I made a nice bright miller logo for the side of it.
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The Dialarc HF's will run for damn near ever. Back in the day I think the USCG purchased one for every unit they had, at least there has been one every where I've been stationed in the last 13 years. Over that period of time with 4 different HF's, I've had ZERO problems with them, that is ZERO, NONE, they have all run like tops. I've used em for everything, running spoolguns, tig, stick, and carbon arc. Two of those 4 units have been in salt air environments (on ships) and still ran great.

That's the good, now for the bad.

While they will tig, they lack the balance control and square wave of the newer machines. It will get the job done, you just can't fine tune things like a modern machine will let you do. Only TIG specific adjustment you get is gas post flow time, it don't get any more bare bones than that. Running something like a spoolgun off of one has become more expensive than its worth due to the cost and rarity of the control box that is needed. I've never worried about the power consumption, so can't help ya there. They are heavy bastards, 500 lbs I believe. Pretty sure the welding cart at my last unit was over 1000 lbs , I'm glad the shop had nice smooth concrete floors to roll it around on.

Here's the one at my last unit just for shits and grins.
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