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Old 01-02-2011, 04:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best bender for the price

I know the protools is a great bender as is the JD2, but which is better and why? I want to get a bender this week and they both look appealing.

Is it true that the JD2 dies will work in the protools bender but not the other way around?

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Old 01-02-2011, 05:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pepsi or Coke? I just got a protools 105 check out Tmr customs, he is a vendor here on the board and has excellent customer service.
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Is it true that the JD2 dies will work in the protools bender but not the other way around?

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JD2 dies vary by model (just so you know).
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I liked the finish on the pro tools a little better, and i think it has the better degree ring. The deciding factor for me was when i called to ask a few questions of both companies the pro tools guys actually answered the phone.
The JD2 is priced a little cheaper when you look at the website pricing, but if you call around you can get a better deal on the protools. I got my 105HD with degree ring cheaper than i could have gotten the regular JD2 bender. I am very satisfied with the 105HD.

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Geez Dima, you are acting like a fawkin' newb
Try the Search button, fawker.

The dies are not interchangeable between the pro-tools 105 and JD2 model 3.

IIRC JD2 Model3 bender arms are ~1/2" wereas the Pro tools 105 has 5/8" arms:
*standard 105 has 1/2", 105HD has 5/8"
http://www.pro-tools.com/105_4.htm
http://www.pro-tools.com/105_3.htm

Take die prices into account, too.

http://vansantent.com/model_3_bender.htm

3 way review of JD2, Pro-tools 105, and JMR benders:
http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/...ead.php?t=1668

Check out the Pro-Bender vertical bender (uses Pro-tools 105 dies) TMI is the PBB vendor.
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The deciding factor for me was what came up used in good condiiton at a fair price.

Baby-on-the-way deals can score you a bender and several die sets for way below retail.
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i have the protools 105hd i was about to pull the trigger on a jd2 model 3 but came across deal on a new in the box bender with the die i needed(ended up not being the right die but the guy made it right). after using my bender and my cousins model 3 i like the pt105 degree ring alot more than the jd2 otherwise they are about the same.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Can someone tell me why JD2 has the dies in .5 increments vs protools that is set at an even .0

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Old 01-03-2011, 08:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I could not help myself but I have to chime in.

If you are looking for the "best bender for the price". The NEW 2011 Pro4 Limited Edition for $999.95. Smokes the competition. Or should I say there is no competition...

I am going to be posting all the specs up sometime this week but I can give you a sneak peak.

Upgrades to our currant Pro4 now at an unbeatable price.
  1. Patent Pending *New foot pedal with release* (No more bending over to release the ram)
  2. The ram is 2x faster than the currant HF ram.
  3. Full 100 degrees of bending before having to pull the pin. (Industry first at under a $1000)
  4. Main arm bushings (Allows you to remove the die pin and die with out the bender falling apart)

All this along with the new race inspired look and our great costumer service.

If you can find a better bender at a better price? I would love to see it.
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Old 01-03-2011, 11:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I bought the model 32 from TMI/Probender. Its BEEFY and is well made. Rob is great to talk to and is very helpful.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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get u a jd model 32
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Scored a jd2 with a die/stand/arm etc. on craigslist for 2 bones, works great. If you know anyone with a bender I'd say get the same one so you can share dies
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I've used the shit out of my Pro Tools 105 and aside from some severely chipped paint it's still like new, even after bending way too much .250 wall, and had a JD2 model 3 at my old work which I broke almost monthly with .120 wall.
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Old 01-09-2011, 10:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The New Limited Edition Pro4 In Action


YouTube - New 2011 Limited Edition Pro4 from Probender.com

Only 25 LE Pro4's are available! Don't miss out!
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I just bought a jmr sportsman series converted it to the hf ram the bender was on sale for 195 it will bend up to 2.5 in tube or 2in 250 wall same as the regular jmr bender it also will accept pro tools dies so if you like theres and has bushings in it so it dont fall apart when you replace the dies like shown with the pro bender. I would really like to get there mechanical drive for the bender instead of the the ram so i dont need anything other than a ratchet to drive it. Also what ram are you using pro bender instead of the hf and is the foot drive shown in the vid just the hf air over they sale for around a 100 bucks it seems faster than the one supplied with the ram.
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I just bought a jmr sportsman series converted it to the hf ram the bender was on sale for 195 it will bend up to 2.5 in tube or 2in 250 wall same as the regular jmr bender it also will accept pro tools dies so if you like theres and has bushings in it so it dont fall apart when you replace the dies like shown with the pro bender. I would really like to get there mechanical drive for the bender instead of the the ram so i dont need anything other than a ratchet to drive it. Also what ram are you using pro bender instead of the hf and is the foot drive shown in the vid just the hf air over they sale for around a 100 bucks it seems faster than the one supplied with the ram.
Your right the ram is much faster than the HF#94562 ram. Along with the fact that you have a foot pedal and 2.5"'s of more overall travel.

Just a side note. The Pro-Tools die will "not" bend .250 wall 2" tube. I did testing for Pro-Tools last year when we built the 105VB and it failed for more than one reason. These are guarded testing results so I am not at liberty to discuss the failures. But what I can tell you is....I will not be in the room when you try it.
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$225 for the bender
$235 for the die set 240deg
$ 65 hf jack
Still needs leveling feet welded on and then broke down for paint.
Does the same thing as $999.99 benders and i have seen 2" 1/4 wall dom bent in a protools 105 hd and nothing exploded.


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Love to see the YouTube of the 105 bending .250 wall 2" DOM. This I have to see.
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Here is some pictures of the die after doing .250" wall 2" DOM. It is up to you if you want to try but I know that the dies failed when we did it. Plus even on the Pro-Tools website they only rate the 105 brute die at .134" wall. Not a big deal but I don't want anyone to get hurt trying.



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I know the pro tools dies are not rated for that thickness but the jmr dies are just if you dont need to bend that thick you can save some cash by using pro tools dies with the jmr benders.
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I've broken my 1.5" Pro Tools die the same way with .250 DOM, beveled the shit out of it, 3 passes with the tig and a gusset and can now bend .375 4130 no problem.
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We tried to gusset too. But when we did that the 7/8" hardened pin on the backing block bent. The only way to beef that up is to do what JD2 did. Come out with the M32. That is why you see the gusset on the die and a 1 1/4" backing block pin. We tried to do it with a 1" pin and it was not strong enough. I am not saying that you might not get lucky once or twice, but that set up is really not designed to handle 0.250' wall 2" DOM.
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No vid sorry, but it did 2 20 deg bends. I am not saying that this is something I would suggest doing just that I have seen it done.
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I made my first 180 with 1.5 120 dom with my jmr bender converted to air/hydro i have to radius the end of the die alil it did mark the tube.


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I am probably getting to get tore up for asking this, but how about www.affordablebender.com I saw a complete hydraulic bender for $300 on their site with the die. Will I regret getting this thing?

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