7.62x39 (AK47) 6x or 8x scope

usmcdoc14 · 09-09-2005, 08:32 PM

gonna pick up one of the russian military 42mm scopes

illuminated reticle, rangefinder, german lens, gas filled, multi coated ,blingity bling

This will be a "multi use" weapon. emergency animal slayer, plinker, pest dispatcher, human stopper.

from your experience would you run a 6x or and 8x scope with a 7.62x39

thanks and any input and poking fun is fair game

TheRipper · 09-09-2005, 10:04 PM

I just got a 6x on my sk that I traded for.I have not got to shoot it yet but it has some decent range when scoping in.

Halogrinder · 09-09-2005, 10:07 PM

i cant give you a DAMN thing in repsonse other than it looks definatly *bling*. i hope you dont think im going to be a copy cat..lol

some crap is on order for mine BTW

Triaged · 09-09-2005, 10:30 PM

I'd go with something more like a 2X or maybe 4X tops. An AK is not a sniper rifle.

Ive thought about something more on the lines of a cheep red dot (1X...aka no magnifaction) scope. I like the mount that goes where the gas rod is (in front of the action) but they are $$$.

Brainer · 09-09-2005, 10:47 PM

When you coming down to the shop in Leesburg Gil? No surplus russian stuff to look at, but plenty of toys to keep you busy for hours. Hook you up with a discount too

usmcdoc14 · 09-10-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Triaged

I'd go with something more like a 2X or maybe 4X tops. An AK is not a sniper rifle.

Ive thought about something more on the lines of a cheep red dot (1X...aka no magnifaction) scope. I like the mount that goes where the gas rod is (in front of the action) but they are $$$.

I am also thinking 8x "might" be a little high. My short barreled AK has a simple red dot and is accurate as fuck (fo an AK)

as for the gas tube mount: they are good (the UNIMaK ones) but will still move the zero but no where near as much as the cheap dust cover ones

I have seen the ones that replace the normal steel rear sight with a weaver rail and those are nice also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halogrinder

i cant give you a DAMN thing in repsonse other than it looks definatly *bling*. i hope you dont think im going to be a copy cat..lol
some crap is on order for mine BTW

Remember you need a side rail in order to mount one of these

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainer

When you coming down to the shop in Leesburg Gil? No surplus russian stuff to look at, but plenty of toys to keep you busy for hours. Hook you up with a discount too

hey what is your FFL fee ? I might need to order some more AK recievers. now i kow i cant get a pistol there but what about long guns ? more specificly ya got any stainless 10-22's with synthetic stocks?

Pappa Smurf · 09-10-2005, 08:17 AM

My uncle has a thats scope. I have no clue if it is 6x or 8x. I liked it.

Toyoda · 09-10-2005, 08:25 AM

I would think a 1x or very little magnefication would serve the purpose better. The only reason you would need a high magnification scope would be hunting or varmint shooting, and I really can't see shooting a serious shot outside 100-125 yards with a 7.62x39.
They (the ak/sks) look really good with scopes on them though.

schitzangiggles · 09-10-2005, 08:36 AM

Wouldn't putting an 8x scope on an AK be akin to putting a blower on a Yugo?

usmcdoc14 · 09-10-2005, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyoda

I would think a 1x or very little magnefication would serve the purpose better. The only reason you would need a high magnification scope would be hunting or varmint shooting, and I really can't see shooting a serious shot outside 100-125 yards with a 7.62x39.
They (the ak/sks) look really good with scopes on them though.

I do 200m groups with my short barreled AK

the full size AK is as accurate as the shooter

I dont plan on doing 500-1000m dime sized shooting with this bitch .

Like i said the weapon will be a well rounded tool. emergency food hunter,people hitter, and general fun. The problem is i cant get a 4x in that big of an objective so that leaves the 6x.

a red dot zero magnification covers the entire center of the target at 200 yards and i would like something thats not so much of a guesstamate of where i am hitting.

Hey the iron sites on a AK go to 800m anyway

animator · 09-10-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

Hey the iron sites on a AK go to 800m anyway

yeah but that doesn't mean it's effective up to that range

my 4x posp has been more than enough for 100 yards.... haven't tried it at 200... hmm

One cool thing about those scopes, they've got additional chevrons for 100 and I believe 200 also, so you don't have to make any adjustments when going from 50 yards to 100 or whatever...

usmcdoc14 · 09-10-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by animator

yeah but that doesn't mean it's effective up to that range

...

who says

the speedometer in my Amigo goes to 100mph so it MUST go to 100mph

besides i love giving the "AK's are not accurate" people some shit

animator · 09-10-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

who says

the speedometer in my Amigo goes to 100mph so it MUST go to 100mph

besides i love giving the "AK's are not accurate" people some shit

Know what you mean.

But I have seen some AKs that are lucky to hold a 10" group at 100 yards.

Now my 74's nothing compareed to a VEPR, but it'll hold it's own

flecker · 09-10-2005, 09:21 AM

I gotta tell you Doc, the 6x42mm would be my choice... if I had to choose. Max effective range for an AKM-47 is all of about 4-500 yds. IMO, pending on the target and the shooter. I don't put scopes on my ak's, not that it may not be worth it. Just that theres a place for optics and a place not for em'. Those scopes should be mounted on a dragunov or something along those lines, fpk's and such. Now a red dot!!! That would be the ticket for an ak

Quick aquisition, lightweight and etc..

usmcdoc14 · 09-10-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flecker

I gotta tell you Doc, the 6x42mm would be my choice... if I had to choose. Max effective range for an AKM-47 is all of about 4-500 yds. IMO, pending on the target and the shooter. I don't put scopes on my ak's, not that it may not be worth it. Just that theres a place for optics and a place not for em'. Those scopes should be mounted on a dragunov or something along those lines, fpk's and such. Now a red dot!!! That would be the ticket for an ak

Quick aquisition, lightweight and etc..

my shorty AK is red dot. I REALY need to get a FAL or other MBR so i have a distance shooter.

\mmmmm red dot

Halogrinder · 09-13-2005, 08:34 PM

whaddabout these guys?

these doods seem to have some nice stuff floating around....like the AR15 butt stock adapter to AK47s like you built

http://www.ultimak.com/default.htm

4runner · 09-13-2005, 08:36 PM

move up...you can have this one for $800

oh yeah, a scope...this Nikon is over $900...little much for an AK...but hella scope

usmcdoc14 · 09-13-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halogrinder

whaddabout these guys?

these doods seem to have some nice stuff floating around....like the AR15 butt stock adapter to AK47s like you built

http://www.ultimak.com/default.htm

they make some pricy nice stuff

oh and that adapter is a POS plastic

come awn ya read this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392681

Aron82 · 09-13-2005, 09:05 PM

I would go with a four, or a six if you must. Overmagnification will hold you back if you need to find your target fast. If the place you are ordering from is out of stock, do not order!!! After 9-11 Kalinka had trouble getting their scopes into the US for a while, a lot of people had to wait for quite a while.
Tantal is a great place to buy Russian military optics and mounts. Centerfire systems usually has some in stock as well.

These scopes are very fun and unique, my good friend who is a hunting guide did not like them due to the reticle. They are made for AKs and the look good and work well on them.

This reminds me I need to sight in my .308 for bear season tommorow.

4runner · 09-13-2005, 09:06 PM

couple nice ones here: http://www.copesdist.com/scopes.htm

4runner · 09-13-2005, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

they make some pricy nice stuff

oh and that adapter is a POS plastic

come awn ya read this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392681

Like this:

Halogrinder · 09-13-2005, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usmcdoc14

they make some pricy nice stuff

oh and that adapter is a POS plastic

come awn ya read this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392681

believe me i have read and subscribed to it. i didnt see in the discription anywhere saying it was plastic

hoohaa · 03-11-2006, 09:05 AM

doc what did you end up going with? Also, how are those side rails mounted to the AK?

animator · 03-11-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hoohaa

doc what did you end up going with? Also, how are those side rails mounted to the AK?

Both of my AKs have the side rails welded on, and both have 4x scopes that doc posted. Both came from centerfiresystems.com.

To attach the rails, there's a couple options. It will depend on your type of mount as to which is the best method to mount. If you get one that is already tapped, just drill holes and screw it on. The screws will go on the inside of the receiver. I think Tantal has these on their website.

If you get the ones like I've got, you can screw, rivet, or weld them on. Ideally, they'd be riveted on, and the riviting is not difficult if you know what you're doing. For me, for the sake of being easy and quick, I welded mine on and they work just fine. Both of mine came from K-var and came with rivets that I didn't use.

Benzz0 · 03-11-2006, 03:39 PM

will the windage and elevation thumbwheels be in Engrish?

those sumbithces are PIMP!

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Triaged Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5110 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,976	I'd go with something more like a 2X or maybe 4X tops. An AK is not a sniper rifle. Ive thought about something more on the lines of a cheep red dot (1X...aka no magnifaction) scope. I like the mount that goes where the gas rod is (in front of the action) but they are $$$. __________________ Link to thread on my calculator http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204893

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Toyoda Rock God Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13707 Location: Fresno, Ca Posts: 1,635	I would think a 1x or very little magnefication would serve the purpose better. The only reason you would need a high magnification scope would be hunting or varmint shooting, and I really can't see shooting a serious shot outside 100-125 yards with a 7.62x39. They (the ak/sks) look really good with scopes on them though. __________________ 85 xtra cab, EFI, 5.29's, ARB, detroit, 37 MTR's, all pro's and chevies.

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Halogrinder i win bish Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16980 Location: places i shouldnt be Posts: 7,104	whaddabout these guys? these doods seem to have some nice stuff floating around....like the AR15 butt stock adapter to AK47s like you built http://www.ultimak.com/default.htm __________________ BIGUGLYFABRICATIONS.COM YouTube - Ron Paul's What If ? Remastered please watch. it will make goosebumps.

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4runner OSRSW ????? Join Date: May 2000 Member # 946 Location: WTF TX USA Posts: 4,162	move up...you can have this one for $800 oh yeah, a scope...this Nikon is over $900...little much for an AK...but hella scope __________________ 4.3runner ---A golf course is a pointless exploitation of a perfectly good rifle range--- buy my ultra rare Omega III presentation rifle special price $47500.00 Last edited by 4runner; 09-13-2005 at 09:10 PM.

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Aron82 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3000 Location: Seeley Lake, Montana, United States Posts: 379	I would go with a four, or a six if you must. Overmagnification will hold you back if you need to find your target fast. If the place you are ordering from is out of stock, do not order!!! After 9-11 Kalinka had trouble getting their scopes into the US for a while, a lot of people had to wait for quite a while. Tantal is a great place to buy Russian military optics and mounts. Centerfire systems usually has some in stock as well. These scopes are very fun and unique, my good friend who is a hunting guide did not like them due to the reticle. They are made for AKs and the look good and work well on them. This reminds me I need to sight in my .308 for bear season tommorow.

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hoohaa Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55546 Location: Dallas Posts: 926	doc what did you end up going with? Also, how are those side rails mounted to the AK?

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