Yes Virginia there is a Liberal bias in the media

APRILRAZZ · 11-11-2005, 07:08 AM

Fawk why doesn't the Washington Post just go over there and offer to finance the whole protest and kick a few wounded solders as well. Made me want to vomit just reading this. Funny how they don't mention the fake caskets they have out there every Friday night

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...r=emailarticle
A Weekly Battle Over War in Iraq
Outside Walter Reed on Friday Nights, Two Camps Stand Their Ground

By Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 30, 2005; C01

Every Friday night, Gael Murphy and Kristinn Taylor meet in Northwest Washington, separated by a bustling four-lane road -- and a whole lot more.

Since spring, the two have stood firmly on opposite sides of Georgia Avenue NW in front of Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Murphy leading a coalition of war protesters, Taylor marshaling supporters of the Iraq war.

Both sides say they are there to support the troops. Beyond that, there's little common ground.

"They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name," said Murphy, a co-founder of the women's antiwar group Code Pink. "It's aimed at disrupting our vigil."

To Taylor, a spokesman for the local chapter of FreeRepublic.com, a politically conservative Web site, disruption is an honorable goal.

"It's galling for us to see them across the street," he said. "They've endorsed the terrorists."

The Friday night gatherings near the District's northern tip, about six miles north of the White House, have become one of the most visible reminders in Washington of a war that has claimed the lives of more than 2,000 U.S. troops. That they are being staged outside a military hospital that treats the war's wounded makes the standoffs all the more pointed -- and controversial.

The war supporters, many of them known as "Freepers" because of their devotion to FreeRepublic.com, insist it is unpatriotic and demoralizing to protest the war in clear view of wounded soldiers. They started congregating along Georgia Avenue on Fridays after learning that the protesters were out there delivering a "despicable" message.

"We believe this is an obscene blood dance to exploit the war wounded for their twisted propaganda purposes," said Bill Floyd, 51, of Alexandria, a Freeper and Friday night regular. "It's indecent. Leave the wounded alone."

The antiwar forces say they chose Walter Reed as a backdrop when they started gathering in March to remind the public of the wounded troops and to point out inadequacies in their medical benefits.

"The administration sent these soldiers to war. Now that they're back and injured, they don't want to see them or hear about them," said Bruce Wolf, 58, of Takoma Park. "I don't want anyone to forget these guys are here."

Some Friday nights, up to three dozen people gather on each side of the street, although the groups can dwindle to about a dozen some weeks. Most are from the Washington area, but protesters -- and those who protest the protesters -- have come from as far away as California and Texas.

Motorists whiz by, many of them heading home from work for the weekend. Some honk or give a thumbs-up, although it's often hard to tell which side the gesture is meant for.

In signs and songs that often hearken back to the Vietnam War, the peace activists urge, "Bring the troops home!" and join in on "We Shall Overcome."

On the other side of the street, the entreaty is to "stay the course" and "let our troops finish their mission." Also famous from long ago are some of their taunts: "commie" and "pinko."

Murphy, 51, a full-time activist and former Peace Corps volunteer and public health adviser in Africa and the Caribbean, said she has tried to find common ground and create a dialogue.

Early on, she crossed the street more than once and suggested to her Friday night acquaintances that both sides had deeply held beliefs and were willing to stand up for them. It didn't work.

The war supporters, she said, responded: "We're alike? No way. Code Pink is evil. You're nothing like us."

Taylor, 43, also a full-time activist, scoffed at the notion of any solidarity.

"She has pulled that common-ground shtick on us before, and we reject it," he said.

Taylor calls Murphy and Code Pink -- "Code Pinko" to the Freepers -- traitors, saying members of the group were guests of Saddam Hussein when they went to Baghdad on a peace mission before the war. Murphy rejects that claim, saying she and others paid their own way on the fact-finding mission, which also sought to let Iraqis know that not all Americans supported war.

Murphy and Taylor both say wounded soldiers at Walter Reed have thanked them for what they're doing.

But one recent Friday night, Staff Sgt. Jeff Schaefer, 40, of New Smyrna Beach, Fla., was less than pleased to see the war protesters.

Schaefer, wounded by shrapnel from a mortar attack in Iraq, walked tentatively with the help of a cane outside the hospital gates. A large gash scarred his forehead.

"They're not doing any good," he said. "George Bush isn't driving down the street. Neither is Cheney. [The protesters] are just pissing off the soldiers."

The same night, John Bruhns, a former infantry soldier who fought in Iraq from 2003 to 2004, bristled at taunts leveled by war supporters.

"I'm very anti-Iraq war," he said. "I'm a proud American. I'm a patriot."

"The mob scene on the other side is trying to say we're anti-troops," Bruhns, 28, said last week. The war protesters "support the troops; they just don't support the war. That isn't impossible, but it's something the opposition refuses to recognize."

More often than not, Murphy said, soldiers at Walter Reed, their relatives and hospital personnel have said, "'Thanks for being here.' That's why we come back here. That's why we can take the risk of offending. They want the war to end, and they want the wounded to be taken care of."

Most of the standoffs are peaceful, although occasional shoves have been exchanged when supporters of the war have crossed the street and gotten in protesters' faces while taking photos of them, Murphy said.

Some of the pictures end up on FreeRepublic.com, complete with mocking captions and commentary and venomous remarks from bloggers on the site.

In September, a motorist stopped in front of the war supporters and threw an apple into the crowd before speeding off. No one was injured, but police were summoned.

Recently, about a dozen veterans on motorcycles started revving their engines in front of the war protesters, trying to chase them off. The activists stood their ground.

Taylor offers no apology for the war supporters' take-no-prisoners approach.

"We treat them with a contempt that they've earned," he said.

Despite the contentiousness, some demonstrators are obviously enjoying themselves. "FReepers continue to frustrate the Pinkos' evil scheme," a FreeRepublic fan wrote in an August blog post describing the group's 18th "fabulous fun" standoff against the war protesters. And the fan noted: "We ate pizza on site."

How long will the Friday night fights go on?

"As long as it takes," Murphy said.

"Until Code Pink stops protesting outside the hospital," Taylor said.

Nomadic1 · 11-11-2005, 07:18 AM

"Yes Virginia there is a Liberal bias in the media "

====

Surely you jest....

Haole · 11-11-2005, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APRILRAZZ

Recently, about a dozen veterans on motorcycles started revving their engines in front of the war protesters, trying to chase them off. The activists stood their ground.

Should have used old beaters that were smoking really bad.

zgwninja · 11-11-2005, 09:31 AM

the Washington Post is not "the media"

but yes... the WP is bias as hell...

but then again, a hippie dies for every hour of Fox News that airs...

The whole media needs a major overhaul...

Benzz0 · 11-11-2005, 09:36 AM

fuck the WP...that pathetic newspaper or whatever you want to call is a steaming pile

good thing FoxNews is pumped on all TV's near the elevators on all floors here in the building I work out of

bigun · 11-11-2005, 09:37 AM

Read the book "BIAS" The news media can not believe that anyone would be so uncouth as to not think they way they do.

APRILRAZZ · 11-11-2005, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigun

Read the book "BIAS" The news media can not believe that anyone would be so uncouth as to not think they way they do.

I have read Arrogance as well

Hooper · 11-11-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APRILRAZZ

I have read Arrogance as well

Better be careful. The liberals are going to accuse you of foaming at the mouth for pointing out this bias...

APRILRAZZ · 11-11-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooper

Better be careful. The liberals are going to accuse you of foaming at the mouth for pointing out this bias...

They will just deny that it is the Washington
post

Still waiting to see if someone will step up to defend these assholes.

zgwninja · 11-11-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooper

Better be careful. The liberals are going to accuse you of foaming at the mouth for pointing out this bias...

Just like the conservatives do when you point out the tremendous bias to the right from fox news...

zgwninja · 11-11-2005, 09:50 AM

But mostly, the media is bias for...

RATINGS!

Hooper · 11-11-2005, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zgwninja

Just like the conservatives do when you point out the tremendous bias to the right from fox news...

Lot's of talk from you. How about you cite a single instance. One single case. Just one.

In fact, I don't think you have ever backed up what you say about me with a single citation.... you just make comments and then fade into the woodwork...

so, here is your chance. Prove me wrong. Show me where I have accused the liberals of foaming at the mouth when they accuse Fox of being biased.

You know why you can't? Because I have said on NUMEROUS occasions that I recognize Fox is biased. Which is why I ALSO post news from foreign sources. Of couse, when I do that, the liberals claim the foreign sources are lying and have an agenda, despite supportive citations from diverse and diametrically opposed forms of government.

Bubba Ray Boudreaux · 11-11-2005, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zgwninja

but then again, a hippie dies for every hour of Fox News that airs...

Here's to hoping Fox News stays on forever

11-11-2005, 07:08 AM	#1
APRILRAZZ Smells like bacon Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19565 Location: VA not CA Posts: 493	Yes Virginia there is a Liberal bias in the media Fawk why doesn't the Washington Post just go over there and offer to finance the whole protest and kick a few wounded solders as well. Made me want to vomit just reading this. Funny how they don't mention the fake caskets they have out there every Friday night http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...r=emailarticle A Weekly Battle Over War in Iraq Outside Walter Reed on Friday Nights, Two Camps Stand Their Ground By Allan Lengel Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, October 30, 2005; C01 Every Friday night, Gael Murphy and Kristinn Taylor meet in Northwest Washington, separated by a bustling four-lane road -- and a whole lot more. Since spring, the two have stood firmly on opposite sides of Georgia Avenue NW in front of Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Murphy leading a coalition of war protesters, Taylor marshaling supporters of the Iraq war. Both sides say they are there to support the troops. Beyond that, there's little common ground. "They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name," said Murphy, a co-founder of the women's antiwar group Code Pink. "It's aimed at disrupting our vigil." To Taylor, a spokesman for the local chapter of FreeRepublic.com, a politically conservative Web site, disruption is an honorable goal. "It's galling for us to see them across the street," he said. "They've endorsed the terrorists." The Friday night gatherings near the District's northern tip, about six miles north of the White House, have become one of the most visible reminders in Washington of a war that has claimed the lives of more than 2,000 U.S. troops. That they are being staged outside a military hospital that treats the war's wounded makes the standoffs all the more pointed -- and controversial. The war supporters, many of them known as "Freepers" because of their devotion to FreeRepublic.com, insist it is unpatriotic and demoralizing to protest the war in clear view of wounded soldiers. They started congregating along Georgia Avenue on Fridays after learning that the protesters were out there delivering a "despicable" message. "We believe this is an obscene blood dance to exploit the war wounded for their twisted propaganda purposes," said Bill Floyd, 51, of Alexandria, a Freeper and Friday night regular. "It's indecent. Leave the wounded alone." The antiwar forces say they chose Walter Reed as a backdrop when they started gathering in March to remind the public of the wounded troops and to point out inadequacies in their medical benefits. "The administration sent these soldiers to war. Now that they're back and injured, they don't want to see them or hear about them," said Bruce Wolf, 58, of Takoma Park. "I don't want anyone to forget these guys are here." Some Friday nights, up to three dozen people gather on each side of the street, although the groups can dwindle to about a dozen some weeks. Most are from the Washington area, but protesters -- and those who protest the protesters -- have come from as far away as California and Texas. Motorists whiz by, many of them heading home from work for the weekend. Some honk or give a thumbs-up, although it's often hard to tell which side the gesture is meant for. In signs and songs that often hearken back to the Vietnam War, the peace activists urge, "Bring the troops home!" and join in on "We Shall Overcome." On the other side of the street, the entreaty is to "stay the course" and "let our troops finish their mission." Also famous from long ago are some of their taunts: "commie" and "pinko." Murphy, 51, a full-time activist and former Peace Corps volunteer and public health adviser in Africa and the Caribbean, said she has tried to find common ground and create a dialogue. Early on, she crossed the street more than once and suggested to her Friday night acquaintances that both sides had deeply held beliefs and were willing to stand up for them. It didn't work. The war supporters, she said, responded: "We're alike? No way. Code Pink is evil. You're nothing like us." Taylor, 43, also a full-time activist, scoffed at the notion of any solidarity. "She has pulled that common-ground shtick on us before, and we reject it," he said. Taylor calls Murphy and Code Pink -- "Code Pinko" to the Freepers -- traitors, saying members of the group were guests of Saddam Hussein when they went to Baghdad on a peace mission before the war. Murphy rejects that claim, saying she and others paid their own way on the fact-finding mission, which also sought to let Iraqis know that not all Americans supported war. Murphy and Taylor both say wounded soldiers at Walter Reed have thanked them for what they're doing. But one recent Friday night, Staff Sgt. Jeff Schaefer, 40, of New Smyrna Beach, Fla., was less than pleased to see the war protesters. Schaefer, wounded by shrapnel from a mortar attack in Iraq, walked tentatively with the help of a cane outside the hospital gates. A large gash scarred his forehead. "They're not doing any good," he said. "George Bush isn't driving down the street. Neither is Cheney. [The protesters] are just pissing off the soldiers." The same night, John Bruhns, a former infantry soldier who fought in Iraq from 2003 to 2004, bristled at taunts leveled by war supporters. "I'm very anti-Iraq war," he said. "I'm a proud American. I'm a patriot." "The mob scene on the other side is trying to say we're anti-troops," Bruhns, 28, said last week. The war protesters "support the troops; they just don't support the war. That isn't impossible, but it's something the opposition refuses to recognize." More often than not, Murphy said, soldiers at Walter Reed, their relatives and hospital personnel have said, "'Thanks for being here.' That's why we come back here. That's why we can take the risk of offending. They want the war to end, and they want the wounded to be taken care of." Most of the standoffs are peaceful, although occasional shoves have been exchanged when supporters of the war have crossed the street and gotten in protesters' faces while taking photos of them, Murphy said. Some of the pictures end up on FreeRepublic.com, complete with mocking captions and commentary and venomous remarks from bloggers on the site. In September, a motorist stopped in front of the war supporters and threw an apple into the crowd before speeding off. No one was injured, but police were summoned. Recently, about a dozen veterans on motorcycles started revving their engines in front of the war protesters, trying to chase them off. The activists stood their ground. Taylor offers no apology for the war supporters' take-no-prisoners approach. "We treat them with a contempt that they've earned," he said. Despite the contentiousness, some demonstrators are obviously enjoying themselves. "FReepers continue to frustrate the Pinkos' evil scheme," a FreeRepublic fan wrote in an August blog post describing the group's 18th "fabulous fun" standoff against the war protesters. And the fan noted: "We ate pizza on site." How long will the Friday night fights go on? "As long as it takes," Murphy said. "Until Code Pink stops protesting outside the hospital," Taylor said. __________________ But a constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever.-John Adams

11-11-2005, 09:31 AM	#4
zgwninja Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18632 Location: 'MERICA.......... FUCK YEAH! Maximize your shopping power! Posts: 104	the Washington Post is not "the media" but yes... the WP is bias as hell... but then again, a hippie dies for every hour of Fox News that airs... The whole media needs a major overhaul... __________________ [COLOR=Red]Like a scrotum... here it is in a nut shell![/COLOR] [COLOR=Lime][B]GO[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Yellow][B]A'S![/B] [/COLOR]

11-11-2005, 09:37 AM	#6
bigun Rock God Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29037 Location: Wheat Ridge Co/Mountainair NM Posts: 1,089	Read the book "BIAS" The news media can not believe that anyone would be so uncouth as to not think they way they do. __________________ “I will not be wronged, I will not be insulted and I will not be laid a hand on. John Wayne “The Shootist.”

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zgwninja Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18632 Location: 'MERICA.......... FUCK YEAH! Maximize your shopping power! Posts: 104	But mostly, the media is bias for... RATINGS! __________________ [COLOR=Red]Like a scrotum... here it is in a nut shell![/COLOR] [COLOR=Lime][B]GO[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Yellow][B]A'S![/B] [/COLOR] Last edited by zgwninja; 11-11-2005 at 09:50 AM.

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Nomadic1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 48320 Posts: 66	"Yes Virginia there is a Liberal bias in the media " ==== Surely you jest....

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Benzz0 Zues of the Juice... Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 22923 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,120	fuck the WP...that pathetic newspaper or whatever you want to call is a steaming pile good thing FoxNews is pumped on all TV's near the elevators on all floors here in the building I work out of