79CJ-5 with a 94 FI 4.0 Tanny/X-fer Case ??

NEWMANS OWN · 01-09-2006, 05:50 PM

HI looking for a few ideas.

Its curently running a t-150 and a d-20 x-fer case. I wanted to go to a Automatic but of course I can't find one that will fit without a nub of a driveshaft.
I plan on keep the stock axles.
Also the jeep is running a 3 inch suspension lift 1"BL and 33's curently.

Just wondering if you have any ideas for a tranny and x-fer case swap that might fit without an awsome amount of work to get them to fit.
Thanks for anyhelp in advance.

J

NEWMANS OWN · 01-09-2006, 07:45 PM

anyone have a measurement on an "AW4" with a dana300 twin stick looking like a idea that might pan out so I can keep the passenger side droop.

J

NEWMANS OWN · 01-09-2006, 07:54 PM

Looks Like adapters might be my best friend.lol Any ideas before I have to go to a stretched frame.

NEWMANS OWN · 01-11-2006, 11:37 AM

Any Ideas'

thanks again
j

NEWMANS OWN · 01-13-2006, 10:21 PM

up for the people who know.

J

bigbirdcj · 01-14-2006, 06:08 AM

I don't know about the auto in the CJ5. I'm sure its been done. If you want to go 4 speed, a Ford T-18 will bolt right up to your T-150 bellhousing. Then just get an adapter for the T/C. I would definately find a D300 and lose the 20. Good luck!

jeremi · 01-15-2006, 01:42 PM

I just measured my AW4 it is 26 1/4 long the d300 is 11 1/2 to center of ujoint and I am using a 7/8 thick ring to make up for the longer input bearing. I know you can save a small amount by using a sealed front bearing and milling down the bearing retainer for a shorter ring( maybe no ring at all never tried) hope this helps.

sixshooter · 01-15-2006, 01:52 PM

If you go with a AX15 5 speed out of a YJ, TJ, XJ; a NP dodge transfer out if an 80's dodge should bolt right up. We checked the factory adapter from the dodge, and a 242 bolted right up to it. You will need to find out the spline counts and shaft size to make sure, but that will allow you to keep the passenger side drop on the rear and you can run the factory bell that has the crank trigger in it on the 4.0 and save on aftermarket crank trigger.

NEWMANS OWN · 01-15-2006, 04:44 PM

Not sure if that will work I'll start searching ggogle for the spline counts. Thanks for your help

Ideas, are all great Time to put some stuff together thanks again

jason

sixshooter · 02-12-2006, 12:20 PM

What did you find with the spline count? Anything?

My1stNiceJeep · 02-12-2006, 12:28 PM

Pretty sure the spline is 23 on the ax15.Could also use an nv3500/3550 I would use a dana 300 before an np tcase.They should bolt up with a clocking ring.

katesoffspring · 02-12-2006, 01:51 PM

dont know about the length but the jeep 904 or 999 will work and the d300 will work on both any auto in a cj5 will make for a short D/S good luck

tubehead · 02-12-2006, 06:59 PM

Jason,

I was going to run a 904 and a D300 in that Jeep before I sold it. That way you will not have to worry about tranny pan clearance. I think you would be happy with that setup. It will shorten up your rear driveshaft though. Keep me informed with what you do with it.

Good Luck

NEWMANS OWN · 02-12-2006, 08:49 PM

Thanks!!!

Right now I have been stripping it and bending some 12 ga for the tub. Going to have it blasted and coated in por-15 and paint and apply herculiner to a few spots. and the whole bottom of it. Lots of things going on to it. I'll get some pics and send them to you oh yeah a set of 44d

ctms blah blah blah ..

J

Chato · 02-12-2006, 10:10 PM

Your biggest problem is space or room lengthwise for whatever it is you decide to go with. The AX 15 is way too long . I think your best bet considering space and a favorable crawl ratio is the T 18 and the D 300.

My1stNiceJeep · 02-13-2006, 06:13 AM

Well I think we all know the problem is the legnth.And Im sure we all know that a T18 or NP435 would be a good trans with the dana 300.It sounds like he wants an auto and 1 with overdrive.Maybe alittle more info on what you want to end up with will help.
The ax15 is only 16" long according to novak and the t18 is 11" so its not that long.If your looking for overdrive Ide say either the ax15 or nv3500/3550 if you want the granny low/overdrive go with the nv4500.

CJ5inFourWheelDrive · 02-13-2006, 08:51 AM

Turbo 350 to a Dana 20 or 300 is the most common auto swapped into a 5, if you want overdrive do it to a big hole Dana 18 and put a warn overdrive on it. Reguardless of what auto you run your shaft will be short. With the 350/18 combo you might have to swap in a quadratrac AMC 20 from a CJ7 or a late 60's D44 out of a 5 as they're both offset. The late 60's D44 would be your best bet as it's stronger after ditching the low spline shafts and going to something like a Warn FF kit, you'll probably have to re-gear it as they're pretty low, 4.10 to 4.56 is common. Just a note, if you go with one of the other T-Cases (20 or 300) you can do a 4:1 low kit, and run 3.73's in your axles as they'll drop your RPM's and give you a good cruising speed.

NEWMANS OWN · 02-13-2006, 11:41 AM

Great Information

thanks again!

Jason

tubehead · 02-13-2006, 06:23 PM

If he goes with an AMC tranny he will not need an adaptor. The Jeep has a good FI 4.0 in it now.

Chato · 02-14-2006, 10:32 PM

Here's what Advance Adapters' Buyers Guide shows:
T-150 = 9.25"
T-18 = 11.875"
AX 15 = 24.000"
TH -350 = 21.5"
Get out your tape measure. Have fun.

NEWMANS OWN · 02-15-2006, 11:31 AM

Ouch, I might as well stick with the 150. Or I'll have to use 1" bolts as my driveshaft.lol

I'll keep everyone posted on this.
thanks for all the help

01-09-2006, 05:50 PM	#1
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	79CJ-5 with a 94 FI 4.0 Tanny/X-fer Case ?? HI looking for a few ideas. Its curently running a t-150 and a d-20 x-fer case. I wanted to go to a Automatic but of course I can't find one that will fit without a nub of a driveshaft. I plan on keep the stock axles. Also the jeep is running a 3 inch suspension lift 1"BL and 33's curently. Just wondering if you have any ideas for a tranny and x-fer case swap that might fit without an awsome amount of work to get them to fit. Thanks for anyhelp in advance. J __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH

01-09-2006, 07:45 PM	#2
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	anyone have a measurement on an "AW4" with a dana300 twin stick looking like a idea that might pan out so I can keep the passenger side droop. J __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH Last edited by NEWMANS OWN; 01-09-2006 at 07:47 PM.

01-09-2006, 07:54 PM	#3
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	Looks Like adapters might be my best friend.lol Any ideas before I have to go to a stretched frame. __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH Last edited by NEWMANS OWN; 01-09-2006 at 07:54 PM.

01-11-2006, 11:37 AM	#4
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	Any Ideas' thanks again j __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH

01-13-2006, 10:21 PM	#5
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	up for the people who know. J __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH

01-14-2006, 06:08 AM	#6
bigbirdcj Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38734 Location: MD Posts: 134	I don't know about the auto in the CJ5. I'm sure its been done. If you want to go 4 speed, a Ford T-18 will bolt right up to your T-150 bellhousing. Then just get an adapter for the T/C. I would definately find a D300 and lose the 20. Good luck! __________________ '67 CJ-5, '03 Rubicon, '79 CJ-7

01-15-2006, 01:42 PM	#7
jeremi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55577 Location: Woodslee ON Canada Posts: 48	I just measured my AW4 it is 26 1/4 long the d300 is 11 1/2 to center of ujoint and I am using a 7/8 thick ring to make up for the longer input bearing. I know you can save a small amount by using a sealed front bearing and milling down the bearing retainer for a shorter ring( maybe no ring at all never tried) hope this helps. __________________ The brave man may not live long but the cautious man never lives 2006 Ram Megacab Cummins 610 1991 Jeep Cherokee oversized tires

01-15-2006, 01:52 PM	#8
sixshooter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43046 Location: Hellertown, PA Posts: 152	If you go with a AX15 5 speed out of a YJ, TJ, XJ; a NP dodge transfer out if an 80's dodge should bolt right up. We checked the factory adapter from the dodge, and a 242 bolted right up to it. You will need to find out the spline counts and shaft size to make sure, but that will allow you to keep the passenger side drop on the rear and you can run the factory bell that has the crank trigger in it on the 4.0 and save on aftermarket crank trigger.

01-15-2006, 04:44 PM	#9
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	Not sure if that will work I'll start searching ggogle for the spline counts. Thanks for your help Ideas, are all great Time to put some stuff together thanks again jason __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH

02-12-2006, 12:20 PM	#10
sixshooter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43046 Location: Hellertown, PA Posts: 152	What did you find with the spline count? Anything? __________________ EC4WDA jeep racer-too much to list 97 XJ- 8" custom lift, 35" procomp M/T, 242 SYE, Tom Woods shafts, 8500 winch, OBA 79 CJ-4" skyjacker springs, 35" M/Ta, double cardan shafts... 98 6v powerwheels-4wd, lifted around 3", 13" plastic dozer tires, painted like sand racer.

02-12-2006, 12:28 PM	#11
My1stNiceJeep Rock God Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 65637 Location: Northeast Pa Posts: 1,077	Pretty sure the spline is 23 on the ax15.Could also use an nv3500/3550 I would use a dana 300 before an np tcase.They should bolt up with a clocking ring.

02-12-2006, 01:51 PM	#12
katesoffspring Granite Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 66838 Location: Harrison, AR Posts: 708	dont know about the length but the jeep 904 or 999 will work and the d300 will work on both any auto in a cj5 will make for a short D/S good luck

02-12-2006, 06:59 PM	#13
tubehead Rock God Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13221 Location: Olive Hill,KY Posts: 1,299	Jason, I was going to run a 904 and a D300 in that Jeep before I sold it. That way you will not have to worry about tranny pan clearance. I think you would be happy with that setup. It will shorten up your rear driveshaft though. Keep me informed with what you do with it. Good Luck __________________ Roark Fab Works Atlas Support Ring

02-12-2006, 08:49 PM	#14
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	Thanks!!! Right now I have been stripping it and bending some 12 ga for the tub. Going to have it blasted and coated in por-15 and paint and apply herculiner to a few spots. and the whole bottom of it. Lots of things going on to it. I'll get some pics and send them to you oh yeah a set of 44d ctms blah blah blah .. J __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH Last edited by NEWMANS OWN; 02-12-2006 at 08:51 PM.

02-12-2006, 10:10 PM	#15
Chato Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 40958 Posts: 213	Your biggest problem is space or room lengthwise for whatever it is you decide to go with. The AX 15 is way too long . I think your best bet considering space and a favorable crawl ratio is the T 18 and the D 300.

02-13-2006, 06:13 AM	#16
My1stNiceJeep Rock God Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 65637 Location: Northeast Pa Posts: 1,077	Well I think we all know the problem is the legnth.And Im sure we all know that a T18 or NP435 would be a good trans with the dana 300.It sounds like he wants an auto and 1 with overdrive.Maybe alittle more info on what you want to end up with will help. The ax15 is only 16" long according to novak and the t18 is 11" so its not that long.If your looking for overdrive Ide say either the ax15 or nv3500/3550 if you want the granny low/overdrive go with the nv4500.

02-13-2006, 08:51 AM	#17
CJ5inFourWheelDrive Got a BFH? Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19668 Location: Central, PA Posts: 767	Turbo 350 to a Dana 20 or 300 is the most common auto swapped into a 5, if you want overdrive do it to a big hole Dana 18 and put a warn overdrive on it. Reguardless of what auto you run your shaft will be short. With the 350/18 combo you might have to swap in a quadratrac AMC 20 from a CJ7 or a late 60's D44 out of a 5 as they're both offset. The late 60's D44 would be your best bet as it's stronger after ditching the low spline shafts and going to something like a Warn FF kit, you'll probably have to re-gear it as they're pretty low, 4.10 to 4.56 is common. Just a note, if you go with one of the other T-Cases (20 or 300) you can do a 4:1 low kit, and run 3.73's in your axles as they'll drop your RPM's and give you a good cruising speed. __________________ (1975 Jeep CJ-5) Being built: 2x4 A-500C frame, C&C 14 bolt w/discs & Detroit, D44 mini-spool, Flat Tops, Mad Mac Double Arms, 4.56's, SM420, D300, AA & Novak adapters, SOA on 2in. BDS YJ springs with a reversal, extended wb; 6in. front, 3in. rear, TJ flairs, hummer rims, hydroboost w/68' Vette M/C…

02-13-2006, 11:41 AM	#18
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	Great Information thanks again! Jason __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH

02-13-2006, 06:23 PM	#19
tubehead Rock God Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13221 Location: Olive Hill,KY Posts: 1,299	If he goes with an AMC tranny he will not need an adaptor. The Jeep has a good FI 4.0 in it now. __________________ Roark Fab Works Atlas Support Ring

02-14-2006, 10:32 PM	#20
Chato Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 40958 Posts: 213	Here's what Advance Adapters' Buyers Guide shows: T-150 = 9.25" T-18 = 11.875" AX 15 = 24.000" TH -350 = 21.5" Get out your tape measure. Have fun.

02-15-2006, 11:31 AM	#21
NEWMANS OWN Diablo Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24650 Posts: 802	Ouch, I might as well stick with the 150. Or I'll have to use 1" bolts as my driveshaft.lol I'll keep everyone posted on this. thanks for all the help __________________ Give up your Freedom for your security and Become like everyone else, or Be different and KEEP BOTH

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