Tool loaned, now back with a catch!

jpboyjeep · 01-07-2007, 07:40 PM

So, I made a 1 5/16 socket to get the pinion nut off my rear D60 a few years back, you have to machine the outside diameter down to get it to fit into the yoke. The socket cost me about 20 bucks and I had to turn it down on the shops lathe.

My buddy asked to borrow it maybe a year ago or so, I loaned it out. Maybe 3 months later, I wanted to change my pinion seal, so I ask for it back. Says he doesn't have it. Said he gave it back to me. So, crap, I tear apart the house, don't remember getting it back, but whatever, I can't find it anywhere, so I never change the pinion seal.

Last week, I notice some play in my pinion, so I wanted to take it apart to check my bearings and maybe remove a shim to tighten it back up a bit, so I search yet again to no avail. I call my buddy and ask him if he has it again. He walks out and checks his tool box and says he doesn't have mine, but I could borrow his. Said he got one from a local mechanic to use, the guy apparently just ground down the outside of one to fit he said.

So, I swing by pick up "his" socket. I swear its mine!! It looks EXACTLY like the one I made. Craftsman 12 point 3/4" drive, thats what I had. I turned it down roughly 1" down on a lathe. It looks like someone just marked up the outside of it with a grinder to scuff up the outside of it, but they didn't do a good job, there are a few spots where you can see a precision machined surface!

So, I am 100% sure its mine. Question is, do I not bring it up to my buddy? Do I just say it looks just like mine, offer a way out and see if he fesses up? He's a pretty good friend, but its like he is steeling from me and lying to my face! Its only 20 bucks, but if he wanted one, he could have given me a socket to turn down!!!

Pics:

toyrunner · 01-07-2007, 07:42 PM

fork, neck, curb

drydocker · 01-07-2007, 07:56 PM

Hard as it may be for you, LET IT PASS.

You "have his number now" as my Dad always says. His punishment for doing shit like that, is that he has to live the rest of his life as HIM. Wish him a long one.

edit: (oh, and mark you farkin tools with an engraver)

whistle pig · 01-07-2007, 07:58 PM

Some friend

TrikeKid · 01-07-2007, 08:00 PM

I'd never let him see it again.

StinkBug · 01-07-2007, 08:00 PM

I'd just make it a point to keep it and when he asks for in in a few months tell him you gave it back to him.

Dallas

threadkiller · 01-07-2007, 08:02 PM

Ask him who the mechanic buddy is and when he answers, tell him that you loaned it out to that guy a while back.

Then keep the damn thing locked up in your tool box.

notstock · 01-07-2007, 08:04 PM

The only person I loan tools to is my neighbor. He gave me a brand new 35" Buckshot for a spare recently as payback out of the blue. He shows respect for my tools. I have lost too many tools to others or had them returned broken or rusted to loan anyone else.

62d100 · 01-07-2007, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkBug

I'd just make it a point to keep it and when he asks for in in a few months tell him you gave it back to him.

Dallas

I would have to go with this idea myself.

Dookey · 01-07-2007, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkBug

I'd just make it a point to keep it and when he asks for in in a few months tell him you gave it back to him.

Dallas

I'm starting to see a pattern

Indyguy · 01-07-2007, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkBug

I'd just make it a point to keep it and when he asks for in in a few months tell him you gave it back to him.

Dallas

Brilliant!

currupt4130 · 01-07-2007, 08:32 PM

Funny my 1 5/16 Mac Impact socket fits in my pinion just fine...

Doc Holiday13 · 01-07-2007, 08:36 PM

"Borrow" it for a really long time and then do what he did to you. Tell him you returned about a month later :

TrikeKid · 01-07-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Holiday13

"Borrow" it for a really long time and then do what he did to you. Tell him you returned about a month later :

Maybe even turn a little bit off of it again to get the machined surface back.

Travis Waldher · 01-07-2007, 09:55 PM

I'de say he's not really your friend.

I can't imagine any of my friends that I'de loan tools to doing that.

Heck, my BIL is borrowing my MM210 and aquired a much better regulator for it than came with it. (the style that has the floating ball)

Chopperman · 01-07-2007, 10:13 PM

This is exactly why I have a borrowed / loaned board in my garage

Shit I've borrowed and shit I've loaned

Is this guy on the board ?

94stepsideford · 01-07-2007, 10:24 PM

keep it and kick him in the taint.

45acp · 01-08-2007, 06:40 AM

Stick the machined end in a vise and break it. Give it back to him and shrug your shoulders.

Seriously, WTF kind of friend does this shit?

Dieselmh · 01-08-2007, 07:19 AM

When you're done with it, throw it through his fucking window. Then make yourself a new one and don't loan it out.

Welby · 01-08-2007, 07:29 AM

Buddy of mine loaned an old "friend" of ours Tesla's 5 man acoustical jam on cassette (remember those

) a long time ago, and didn't see it for months. He was over his house one day and asked for it back and the dude insisted it was his and he paid for it. My buddy never did get his tape back.
This guy was nothing but a stoner lump of shit. Still is, 15 years later. I have other tales about the guy, but I'm not getting into them, I'll just get re-pissed off about them

spencurai · 01-08-2007, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopperman

This is exactly why I have a borrowed / loaned board in my garage

Shit I've borrowed and shit I've loaned

Is this guy on the board ?

Dibs on the first spot for borrowing the rat rod when you get it done...I will even bring a new set of sharpies and a GPS locator so you can track me

k thanks!!

mike · 01-08-2007, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45acp

Seriously, WTF kind of friend does this shit?

Donno, I can trust my friends with my tools

With the exception of one.. who just don't know no better.

actionpaintball · 01-08-2007, 08:01 AM

If the guy honestly thinks he returned it-it could possibly be a legimate mistake-how many times would you bet your right arm on something-only to find out you were wrong? A socket is not worth a friendship, or even a thread in my opinion...

If he has a history of doing this, or it becomes a regular habbit-then its a different story. One time deal-forget it; life is too short

McCracken · 01-08-2007, 08:08 AM

If he's a good friend, let it go. One of my best friends is constantly helping me out but I rarely get the chance to pay him back. Sometimes he loans me a $20 and I might not get the chance to pay him back till 6 months later (out of town constantly). It all comes back around and he knows it. I just wish I could do more to help him out sooner.

jstandle · 01-08-2007, 08:32 AM

Keep it, tell him he's an idiot because that is the one you loaned him.

01-07-2007, 07:40 PM	#1
jpboyjeep Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22119 Location: New Baltimore, MI Posts: 136	Tool loaned, now back with a catch! So, I made a 1 5/16 socket to get the pinion nut off my rear D60 a few years back, you have to machine the outside diameter down to get it to fit into the yoke. The socket cost me about 20 bucks and I had to turn it down on the shops lathe. My buddy asked to borrow it maybe a year ago or so, I loaned it out. Maybe 3 months later, I wanted to change my pinion seal, so I ask for it back. Says he doesn't have it. Said he gave it back to me. So, crap, I tear apart the house, don't remember getting it back, but whatever, I can't find it anywhere, so I never change the pinion seal. Last week, I notice some play in my pinion, so I wanted to take it apart to check my bearings and maybe remove a shim to tighten it back up a bit, so I search yet again to no avail. I call my buddy and ask him if he has it again. He walks out and checks his tool box and says he doesn't have mine, but I could borrow his. Said he got one from a local mechanic to use, the guy apparently just ground down the outside of one to fit he said. So, I swing by pick up "his" socket. I swear its mine!! It looks EXACTLY like the one I made. Craftsman 12 point 3/4" drive, thats what I had. I turned it down roughly 1" down on a lathe. It looks like someone just marked up the outside of it with a grinder to scuff up the outside of it, but they didn't do a good job, there are a few spots where you can see a precision machined surface! So, I am 100% sure its mine. Question is, do I not bring it up to my buddy? Do I just say it looks just like mine, offer a way out and see if he fesses up? He's a pretty good friend, but its like he is steeling from me and lying to my face! Its only 20 bucks, but if he wanted one, he could have given me a socket to turn down!!! Pics: __________________ 2000 TJ 4.0L 5 spd. D44HP Front, D60 Rear, Detroits, 5.13's, 36" TSL, winch etc.. Custom: Radius arms front, leaves SOA rear, Belly up skid, tank in bed, 5" ext. wheelbase, OBA, H1 Beadlocks, etc.. Currently rebuilding for family wheeling anywhere. Last edited by jpboyjeep; 12-28-2008 at 08:21 PM. Reason: update pictures

01-07-2007, 07:42 PM	#2
toyrunner Retro Wheeler Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 36 Location: Ventura County Posts: 1,307	fork, neck, curb __________________ 1985 4Runner SR5/ e Locker

01-07-2007, 07:56 PM	#3
drydocker Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34052 Location: northern lower Michigan Posts: 68	Hard as it may be for you, LET IT PASS. You "have his number now" as my Dad always says. His punishment for doing shit like that, is that he has to live the rest of his life as HIM. Wish him a long one. edit: (oh, and mark you farkin tools with an engraver) Last edited by drydocker; 01-07-2007 at 07:57 PM.

01-07-2007, 08:00 PM	#5
TrikeKid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 69594 Location: Roy/Eatonville ,Washington Posts: 631	I'd never let him see it again. __________________ Nothing happens when you die.

01-07-2007, 08:00 PM	#6
StinkBug StinkyFab Racing Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4946 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,015	I'd just make it a point to keep it and when he asks for in in a few months tell him you gave it back to him. Dallas __________________ Dallas Ashley StinkyFab Racing (SFR) - Custom Fabrication Crew Chief, RedBull Rockcrawling Team Codriver, Team RockIt #88 - KOH 2010

01-07-2007, 07:58 PM	#4
whistle pig Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43727 Posts: 512	Some friend

01-07-2007, 08:02 PM	#7
threadkiller Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28196 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 471	Ask him who the mechanic buddy is and when he answers, tell him that you loaned it out to that guy a while back. Then keep the damn thing locked up in your tool box.

01-07-2007, 08:04 PM	#8
notstock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 24881 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 696	The only person I loan tools to is my neighbor. He gave me a brand new 35" Buckshot for a spare recently as payback out of the blue. He shows respect for my tools. I have lost too many tools to others or had them returned broken or rusted to loan anyone else.

01-07-2007, 08:32 PM	#12
currupt4130 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 39371 Location: Williamsburg/Blacksburg VA Posts: 1,615	Funny my 1 5/16 Mac Impact socket fits in my pinion just fine... __________________ The mountains are calling and I must go. -John Muir Last edited by currupt4130; 01-07-2007 at 08:32 PM.

01-07-2007, 08:36 PM	#13
Doc Holiday13 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48233 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,044	"Borrow" it for a really long time and then do what he did to you. Tell him you returned about a month later :

01-07-2007, 09:55 PM	#15
Travis Waldher Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4878 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 6,358	I'de say he's not really your friend. I can't imagine any of my friends that I'de loan tools to doing that. Heck, my BIL is borrowing my MM210 and aquired a much better regulator for it than came with it. (the style that has the floating ball)

01-07-2007, 10:13 PM	#16
Chopperman Cage Fighter Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2634 Location: Rocklin, Ca Posts: 3,428	This is exactly why I have a borrowed / loaned board in my garage Shit I've borrowed and shit I've loaned Is this guy on the board ? __________________ <><

01-07-2007, 10:24 PM	#17
94stepsideford Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36399 Location: Hinesburg, VT Posts: 3,181	keep it and kick him in the taint. __________________ 94 F-150 Stepside. BGTL 12" lift, 1-tons, 39" 'roks 95 F-150 6" of lift, SAS 35" BFG's

01-08-2007, 06:40 AM	#18
45acp Custom User Title Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13671 Location: north of Caddo parish Posts: 1,521	Stick the machined end in a vise and break it. Give it back to him and shrug your shoulders. Seriously, WTF kind of friend does this shit?

01-08-2007, 07:19 AM	#19
Dieselmh Hungry! Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6417 Posts: 1,798	When you're done with it, throw it through his fucking window. Then make yourself a new one and don't loan it out. __________________ Everything I type is good natured flaming in the name of fun, not mean spirited or vicious bullshit.

01-08-2007, 07:29 AM	#20
Welby Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7287 Location: Greensburg, PA Posts: 5,891	Buddy of mine loaned an old "friend" of ours Tesla's 5 man acoustical jam on cassette (remember those ) a long time ago, and didn't see it for months. He was over his house one day and asked for it back and the dude insisted it was his and he paid for it. My buddy never did get his tape back. This guy was nothing but a stoner lump of shit. Still is, 15 years later. I have other tales about the guy, but I'm not getting into them, I'll just get re-pissed off about them __________________ It smells like disaster, it looks like a trap. So go by the wayside and never look back

01-08-2007, 08:01 AM	#23
actionpaintball Dabbler Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29562 Location: Hayes Va 23072 Posts: 1,158	If the guy honestly thinks he returned it-it could possibly be a legimate mistake-how many times would you bet your right arm on something-only to find out you were wrong? A socket is not worth a friendship, or even a thread in my opinion... If he has a history of doing this, or it becomes a regular habbit-then its a different story. One time deal-forget it; life is too short

01-08-2007, 08:32 AM	#25
jstandle Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17130 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 806	Keep it, tell him he's an idiot because that is the one you loaned him. __________________ >>>>>> Jordan >>>>>>

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