Rock moving on the Rubicon

[Simple Man]

Hello everyone,

I finally got around to calling the key player in this operation, the front load operator, and we've decided on June 9/10 2007 for this project.

This project is important for many reasons. This hole was hood deep for most rigs during the wet months last year. This is the spot that was photographed and sent to Lahonton Water Authority with a request to seasonally close the trail. This spot also had a bypass that cause further erosion and evidence that other bypasses had been tried. We need to fill this hole and put this section of the trail behind us.

For those of you unfamiliar with this hole, it is about one mile west of the intersection of the Rubicon trail and Barker Pass Road. Just west of a section I know as Potato Patch. It is just east of the area I've heard described as Helicopter Flat, an area tha opens out of the trees to a somewhat flat granite area.

This will be a trailer project. The more trailers the faster the project goes. I'm hoping for 15-20 trailers. The trailers will be loaded by the use of a front loader with a one or half yard bucket. Great care will be taken while loading trailers. You will be in charge of deciding how and how much rock gets loaded in your trailer. Unloading will most likely be done by unhooking the trailer and lifting the tounge. In theory, there should be minimal hand moving of rock.

We are working on providing dinner at the Blackwood Canyon Campground Saturday night. Sunday should be an easy day of wrapping up of loose ends and enjoying the fruits of our labor.

Attached is an outline of the project. I'm looking for a few people to step up and fill in the available lead positions: Medical (2), Sign-in, Campground, Chow Team, Communications, Safety Officers (2).

Please post up if you have any questions.



Rock & Roll Party
June 9/10, 2007, Rubicon Trail
Blackwood Canyon, Lake Tahoe


Goal: Prevent further water retention and erosion at THE mud hole

Objectives: Clear drain, Place rocks in hole
Fill holes along trail to the mud hole as needed

Elements: Front loader at rocks to load trailers
Rocks to mud hole a half yard at a time
Camping at Blackwood Canyon campground
Dinner hosted (still need to confirm)

Plans: Decide where to place boulders
Bottom of hole
Small holes along the trail
Play area along trail at split in trail
Increase and/or cover dirt at Potato Patch
Edge of trail as needed

Logistics: 100 yards of rock one mile from intersection
Two miles of total distance rocks need to move

50 cubic yards of Grapefruit size
50 cubic yards of small boulders
45 - 60 trips
12 – 15 trailers and vehicles to tow them
3 – 5 trips per rig
1 – 1.5 hours round trip
3 – 7.5 hours

40+ people to feed
Sign-in at Blackwood Canyon
15 Trailers and tow rigs
Signage and locations




Timetable: Friday: Loader arrives at rocks

Saturday: Send off early crew to start on trail work
Sign in and briefing at Blackwood
Work begins
Lunch break
Work is finished up
Dinner and camaraderie

Sunday: Move more rock if needed
Wrap up any loose ends


Staffing
1 – IC Doug
2 Safety Officers – loading & unloading
2 Medical staff – loading & unloading
1 – Ops Gary
6 – Team leaders
Sign-in team Leader
Campground Leader
Load Leader Don
Transport Leader Erik
Chow Team Leader
Communications Team Leader

6 - 10 unloading: 2 teams of 3-5
Start unloading along the trail to make it easier for the trailers
4 – Loading Team
Don to bring small front loader
3 – 5 on Communication Team
Communications along the trail to ease congestion

30 - 40 people for a full crew




We really need trailers for this operation. Please step up if you have one. If you have one and can't make it that day, loan it to your buddy so he can bring it and use it.

Thanks again for all you help,


Doug



(This forum really does a number on my layouts! Sorry.)

[Jeepndel]

Rubicon Trail 2007 workday sign up forms are now available. Please jump in and sign up for these projects as soon as you can.

Here are the workday signups: http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/workday.htm

Thanks, Del

[peesalot]

this is the big hole where there is a bypass which is a pretty rocky and short?
100 yards of rock would fill the area like 3 ft high, is that the goal?

[Simple Man]

The bypass was a short deep two rut bend around to the south. It only bypassed about half of the mud hole.

The minimum I want to achieve is covering the bottom so even if it fills with water, it won't be mud. We'll have to keep an eye on the drain after each rain.

I'd like to get enough rock in there to keep it to hub deep at the most. More would be better. The county ordered enough rock to fill it completely. 3 feet deep, 8 feet wide and like 150 feet long!

Placer County really stepped up to help maintain one of their "unmaintained" county roads!

[peesalot]

that bypass has broke some parts. That area through the tree's there seems to have short loop bypasses every where.

[Simple Man]

I need to hear from you trailer owners out there.

Here are the workday signups: http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/workday.htm

[64YellowTux]

Come on people we need early signups so we can plan the menu.

Dennis Mayer
Treasurer - Rubicon Trail Foundation
Chow team leader

[Snow4Phil]

Is that fathers day weekend?

[resqme]

Nope, that's June 17th.

[chartdog]

Sorry, can't make it. We'll be in Florida for a family wedding.

[resqme]

Hey Doug,

I can be the Comm Unit Leader and provide another comm person.

I also have enough VHF portables to do a common frequency, either an FMRS frequency or maybe JJ will give us permission to use their simplex frequency for the event? That will work much better than CB, I think, though we can monitor that as well if we have to. I can ask Richie or you can. Let me know if you like the idea or would prefer something else.

I can also do medical if you don't mind me mixing disciplines.

Is Blackwood Canyon Campground the same as Kaspian Campground?

John Arenz

Edit: sorry, I don't have a trailer that can be used for this.

[rockwrangler]

Doug

I'm going to come but and Help.

Is there any RV camp grounds that I can park my 36' RV and 25' car trailer at. I have been looking on the net but have had no luck as of yet! Any Ideas? I'll be bringing my Jeep trailer to haul rock.
Jerry Sparkman

[resqme]

Originally Posted by rockwrangler

Doug
Is there any RV camp grounds that I can park my 36' RV and 25' car trailer at. Jerry Sparkman

Same question...

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by prtsnpcs

Come on people we need early signups so we can plan the menu.

Dennis Mayer
Treasurer - Rubicon Trail Foundation
Chow team leader

I can help on the chow team Dennis.

[Simple Man]

I believe that there will be room for RV's. I'll try and double check and get back with specifics.

Kaspian and Blackwood I think are the same. There is one campground right at highway 89 at the lake. There is a second camp ground a mile or so up Blackwood Canyon. We'll be at the one a mile in from 89.

The Canyon is currently closed for winter. When it opens (May 1st) I'll do a recon of the area and re-post with more details.


John (resqme),

The Communications Lead position is yours. I will bring my Ham radio as well. If you feel like taking on both positions, I think they can be done by one person. I'd like to see at least two EMT's under you that are not tied to a lead position. (I'm an EMT and will jump in when needed but as IC I'm going to be too busy to be available through out the project.)

Thanks for everyone for signing up.


Doug

[64YellowTux]

Originally Posted by Bebe

I can help on the chow team Dennis.

Thanks Bebe, I think I have your phone and I will contact you as soon as we have some more details.

Dennis

[resqme]

Originally Posted by Simple Man

John (resqme),

The Communications Lead position is yours. I will bring my Ham radio as well. If you feel like taking on both positions, I think they can be done by one person. I'd like to see at least two EMT's under you that are not tied to a lead position. (I'm an EMT and will jump in when needed but as IC I'm going to be too busy to be available through out the project.)

Thanks for everyone for signing up.


Doug

Sounds good, Doug. I don't think taking both one of the medical positions and the Comm lead will be a problem. Hopefully the former won't be needed. look forward to seeing you then.

John

[rockwrangler]

Originally Posted by Simple Man

I believe that there will be room for RV's. I'll try and double check and get back with specifics.

Kaspian and Blackwood I think are the same. There is one campground right at highway 89 at the lake. There is a second camp ground a mile or so up Blackwood Canyon. We'll be at the one a mile in from 89.

The Canyon is currently closed for winter. When it opens (May 1st) I'll do a recon of the area and re-post with more details.


John (resqme),

The Communications Lead position is yours. I will bring my Ham radio as well. If you feel like taking on both positions, I think they can be done by one person. I'd like to see at least two EMT's under you that are not tied to a lead position. (I'm an EMT and will jump in when needed but as IC I'm going to be too busy to be available through out the project.)

Thanks for everyone for signing up.


Doug

Thanks Doug

[Sluice Sally]

Eric and I will be there...I'll do sign in's. Our trailer is not going to be fixed in time, sorry , and Eric says, he'll be where you need him .

Should we plan on camping friday night?

[peesalot]

Get a radiator first.

[SCHooch]

Originally Posted by Bebe

I can help on the chow team Dennis.

Pizza?














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[64YellowTux]

Originally Posted by SCHooch

Pizza?
.

Don't know yet, but it does sound good.

I am waiting for a confirmation and we also kinda need to know how many are going to attend. That's why we are asking for an early sign up.

Sign up here: http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/workday.htm

Dennis

[Sluice Sally]

Originally Posted by peesalot

Get a radiator first.

It's fixed...I hope

[Bebe]

Originally Posted by SCHooch

Pizza? .

Only if your bringing it from you know where

[cruzila]

Doug asked me to post a few pics from last weekend.

The mud hole drain is working very well.

The corner on Cadillac is not too bad, but will have water on it for several more weeks.