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Old 05-01-2007, 09:42 PM   #1
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Front 3 link upper link location

I am about to start my front links and I cant figure out which side to put the upper link on. I have a passenger drop d60 so should it be on the diff side or does it not really matter??
I have seen it both ways and dont see how one would be better then the other.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:13 PM   #2
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I see you have a red star, so I suggest you search. There is literally a ton of post concerning 3-link set up. I would only br regurgitating what I've read here.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:30 PM   #3
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I see you have a red star, so I suggest you search. There is literally a ton of post concerning 3-link set up. I would only br regurgitating what I've read here.
You dont think I searched?? I have not found one thing that says why to put it on one side or the other. I have found hundreds of people that have done it on both sides.
I just want to know if there is a reasoning behind either side.
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It makes sense to me to put it on the side with the pinion to make sure that your angle does not change causing damage. But if that won't work the middle of the axle is a good place if you are going to run a wishbone style upper link.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:51 AM   #5
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It must go on the diff side to keep your pinion from rotating. if you run a wristed arm on both sides it binds. just 2 on the diff side and one on the other.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:57 AM   #6
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Well, don't know what you used for search "argument", but they're there. Based on what I've gleaned from the various posts, you can put it on either side, BUT, your attachment points at the frame-end are at different heights, depending on what side they're located. The angles of the arms differ in order to get "ant-dive" correct, and to keep from raising the passenger-side tire, if you mount the UCA on the driver's side.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:27 AM   #7
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Here's a couple of threads to get you started.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=534764
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ht=track+mount
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthrea...t=3+link+front
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:11 AM   #8
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It must go on the diff side to keep your pinion from rotating. if you run a wristed arm on both sides it binds. just 2 on the diff side and one on the other.
Huh?

Plenty of people run a 3-link on the opposite side of the diff.

Two wristed arms won't bind, you'll just have no wrap or braking control. One wristed arm works fine in a radius arm setup, and a 3-link has no wristed arms anyway because it doesn't need it.
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I have posted a bunch of times about which side to put it on.

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By having one upper you can use it to counteract driveshaft rotation torque. But the front suspension is really loaded in braking and not acceleration. So there isnt any significant driveshaft rotation torque to counteract. Even in 4wd it really isnt that big of a deal. So put it where it fits. Does NOT have to be on the same side as the pinion.
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I have posted a bunch of times about which side to put it on.

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By having one upper you can use it to counteract driveshaft rotation torque. But the front suspension is really loaded in braking and not acceleration. So there isnt any significant driveshaft rotation torque to counteract. Even in 4wd it really isnt that big of a deal. So put it where it fits. Does NOT have to be on the same side as the pinion.
There has to be some kind of driveshaft torqe, esp when the rear output is disco'd. So if that were the case, which side would be better to counter act the torque?
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There has to be some kind of driveshaft torqe, esp when the rear output is disco'd. So if that were the case, which side would be better to counter act the torque?
In a high-traction situation, if I go in reverse in front-wheel-drive only and really get on it, I can get some decent torque jacking out of mine. That's the extent that I've noticed it.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:12 PM   #13
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I have posted a bunch of times about which side to put it on.

Here it goes again:

By having one upper you can use it to counteract driveshaft rotation torque. But the front suspension is really loaded in braking and not acceleration. So there isnt any significant driveshaft rotation torque to counteract. Even in 4wd it really isnt that big of a deal. So put it where it fits. Does NOT have to be on the same side as the pinion.
Main reason I like it on the pinion side is you can truss it to spread that load out and also keep the tubes from spinning all in one shot.
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