Grassroots Victory!!!! SB990 killed last night

YellowSub1962 · 11-21-2002, 09:08 AM

this deserves a seperate post in all forums...

GOOD JOB EVERYONE!!!! WE WON ONE!!!!!

American Land Rights Association - Land Rights Network
PO Box 400 - Battle Ground WA 98604
Phone: 360-687-3087 - Fax: 360-687-2973 - Email: <alra@landrights.org> -
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Legislative Office: 507 Seward Square SE - Washington DC 20003
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GRASSROOTS VICTORY !!!!!!!!

**** INCREDIBLE WIN FOR GRASSROOTS !!!! ****

DARK-OF-NITE ENDANGERED SPECIES LAND GRAB

EXPOSED & DEFEATED !

Senate Bill #990, which was a massive expansion of the Endangered Species
Act combined with hundreds of millions in new land acquisition, was exposed
to the light of day for the first time this week.

And thousands of grassroots activists across the country said NO WAY!

And the United States Senate heard you LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!!!!!

S. 990 could not stand up to public scrutiny this week and was NOT
brought
up for a vote in the Senate. The Senate just concluded its session for the
year, and S.990 is right where it belongs, in the dustbin!!!

Sometimes, democracy works - YOU MADE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!

The Endangered Species Act certainly needs changes. But there should be
input from the public, debate and discussion should occur in the light of
day, and there should be a record of who is for and against various
proposals.

NONE of that occurred with S.990. This was a dark-of-nite land grab
promoted in the back rooms of Washington, DC by powerful environmental
organizations seeking to:

greatly expand their favorite law, the Endangered Species Act,

convert more lands from private property to government ownership, and

3) line their pockets with more, more and more grant money from taxpayers.

S. 990 and other ideas to change the Endangered Species Act may be
considered in Congress next year. But it should be done out in the open.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR calls, YOUR faxes, YOUR emails made the
difference in demanding consideration for private property rights, multiple
use of federal lands, and OPEN GOVERNMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take a look at the legislative history of S.990:

***S. 990 was first approved by the United States Senate just before
Christmas in 2001. It was after the last roll call vote of the year,
nearly
MIDNIGHT, with no debate, and voted through by "unanimous consent" -
when
only three Senators were present, everyone else having gone home to their
home states!

***S. 990 then languished in the House of Representatives Resources
Committee for ELEVEN MONTHS. Property rights activists, having been
caught unprepared by the Senate's sneak action, wanted an open discussion
about the Endangered Species Act in the light of day. But there were NO
hearings, NO debate, NO votes, NO action on the bill for eleven
months.

***Then, late in November 2002, Resources Committee Chairman James V.
Hansen
of Utah, who is retiring from Congress, got into "Legacy Mode." He decided
to create a legacy for himself at taxpayer expense. He stuffed S.990 with
pork projects for Utah. These included the James V. Hansen Shoshone Trail,
which cost $2 million, and construction of a visitor center at the Bear
River Bird Refuge for $11 million, which upon completion would be named
after - you guessed it - James V. Hansen!

***In the wee hours of Friday morning, November 15, 2002, the second sneak
attack was launched. Hansen brought S.990 to the House floor and gained
approval by "unanimous consent" - after nearly every congressman had gone
home, at 2:35am!

HOWEVER - because it was changed in the House, the revised version of S.990
now had to be given final approval in the Senate.

Property rights activists had been burned twice, and would not be caught
again!

******** GRASSROOTS UPRISING !!!!!!!! ********

The "Big Green" enviro machine had only three days to get S.990 through the
Senate, which was already packed with a full agenda of other legislation.
They could not risk an open debate, which would expose S.990's flaws. They
would need one more dark-of-nite "unanimous consent" sneak attack in order
to slide S.990 through.

But it was not to be.

Property owners large and small, cabin owners, inholders, farmers,
foresters,
ranchers, miners, four-wheelers, anyone who wants to make reasonable use of
their private property, or who makes recreational or commercial use of
federal
lands, rose up and spoke out!

For the past three days, Senate offices were swamped with calls, faxes and
emails DEMANDING open discussion of changes to the Endangered Species
Act!

Many Senators listened to their constituents and placed a "hold" on S.990.
A "hold" places a temporary delay on legislation. With only three days in
session, Monday through Wednesday, November 18 to 20, it would be enough to
stop the Endangered Species Land Grab.

The Big Green enviro's point man on S.990 is leftwing Senator Harry Reid of
Nevada. Reid worked desperately to convince Senators to remove their
"holds" and allow S.990 to slip through without a vote or debate. But with
the grassroots tide rising and the light of day shining on S.990, there was
no way.

Sometimes, democracy works.

ACTION ITEM - Pat yourself on the back. YOU DID IT!

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Whitewater · 11-21-2002, 09:19 AM

Although I'm not completely against the Endangered Species Act I think it's turned into a huge front/scam.
Damn I'm glad this one didn't get through! Thanks for posting this sub.

gunracer1 · 11-21-2002, 09:26 AM

as cheif would say woooofawkinnnnnwhoooooo

YellowSub1962 · 11-21-2002, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Whitewater
Although I'm not completely against the Endangered Species Act

I don't think any of us are against trying to help out a speices in need, but when a larva that lives in a mud puddle for two months out of the year and is dormant for the other 8 causes lives to be ruined, or a fly cause a hospital to be postponed and construction costs to skyrocket, I have to draw the line... People are part of the environment, not masters of it....while we can help out and tweak it a little, we can control the evolution of the world....

Lil Uzi · 11-21-2002, 10:10 PM

Do you mean my vote for Barbara Boxer is wasted ?

LOPPY · 11-21-2002, 10:58 PM

thanks Mr. Sub for keeping us posted on this. IMHO, you dont get enough credit for what you do. I'm damn proud to be one of those "thousands"....

My activism is constant, mostly through letters, emails and faxes since I have a young family and am the sole bread winner, getting that in depends on people like you and your devotion to making it easy for us to throw our weight around. Keep up the outstanding work I wish I had the time to devote to. I'd like to extend a hearty :thumbsup: to you and the like.

Cheers Sub.

BJ On Roids · 11-21-2002, 11:23 PM

good work guys!!

11-21-2002, 09:08 AM	#1
YellowSub1962 108" Smurfmobile Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1494 Location: The Land Of The Free, Thanks To The Brave! Posts: 7,186	Grassroots Victory!!!! SB990 killed last night this deserves a seperate post in all forums... GOOD JOB EVERYONE!!!! WE WON ONE!!!!! American Land Rights Association - Land Rights Network PO Box 400 - Battle Ground WA 98604 Phone: 360-687-3087 - Fax: 360-687-2973 - Email: <alra@landrights.org> - http://www.landrights.org Legislative Office: 507 Seward Square SE - Washington DC 20003 Phone: 202-210-2357 - Fax: 202-543-7126 - Email: landrightsnet@aol.com GRASSROOTS VICTORY !!!!!!!! ** INCREDIBLE WIN FOR GRASSROOTS !!!! DARK-OF-NITE ENDANGERED SPECIES LAND GRAB EXPOSED & DEFEATED ! Senate Bill #990, which was a massive expansion of the Endangered Species Act combined with hundreds of millions in new land acquisition, was exposed to the light of day for the first time this week. And thousands of grassroots activists across the country said NO WAY! And the United States Senate heard you LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!!!!! S. 990 could not stand up to public scrutiny this week and was NOT brought up for a vote in the Senate. The Senate just concluded its session for the year, and S.990 is right where it belongs, in the dustbin!!! Sometimes, democracy works - YOU MADE THE DIFFERENCE!!!! The Endangered Species Act certainly needs changes. But there should be input from the public, debate and discussion should occur in the light of day, and there should be a record of who is for and against various proposals. NONE of that occurred with S.990. This was a dark-of-nite land grab promoted in the back rooms of Washington, DC by powerful environmental organizations seeking to: greatly expand their favorite law, the Endangered Species Act, convert more lands from private property to government ownership, and 3) line their pockets with more, more and more grant money from taxpayers. S. 990 and other ideas to change the Endangered Species Act may be considered in Congress next year. But it should be done out in the open. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR calls, YOUR faxes, YOUR emails made the difference in demanding consideration for private property rights, multiple use of federal lands, and OPEN GOVERNMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take a look at the legislative history of S.990: S. 990 was first approved by the United States Senate just before Christmas in 2001. It was after the last roll call vote of the year, nearly MIDNIGHT, with no debate, and voted through by "unanimous consent" - when only three Senators were present, everyone else having gone home to their home states! S. 990 then languished in the House of Representatives Resources Committee for ELEVEN MONTHS. Property rights activists, having been caught unprepared by the Senate's sneak action, wanted an open discussion about the Endangered Species Act in the light of day. But there were NO hearings, NO debate, NO votes, NO action on the bill for eleven months. Then, late in November 2002, Resources Committee Chairman James V. Hansen of Utah, who is retiring from Congress, got into "Legacy Mode." He decided to create a legacy for himself at taxpayer expense. He stuffed S.990 with pork projects for Utah. These included the James V. Hansen Shoshone Trail, which cost $2 million, and construction of a visitor center at the Bear River Bird Refuge for $11 million, which upon completion would be named after - you guessed it - James V. Hansen! In the wee hours of Friday morning, November 15, 2002, the second sneak attack was launched. Hansen brought S.990 to the House floor and gained approval by "unanimous consent" - after nearly every congressman had gone home, at 2:35am! HOWEVER - because it was changed in the House, the revised version of S.990 now had to be given final approval in the Senate. Property rights activists had been burned twice, and would not be caught again! **** GRASSROOTS UPRISING !!!!!!!! ****** The "Big Green" enviro machine had only three days to get S.990 through the Senate, which was already packed with a full agenda of other legislation. They could not risk an open debate, which would expose S.990's flaws. They would need one more dark-of-nite "unanimous consent" sneak attack in order to slide S.990 through. But it was not to be. Property owners large and small, cabin owners, inholders, farmers, foresters, ranchers, miners, four-wheelers, anyone who wants to make reasonable use of their private property, or who makes recreational or commercial use of federal lands, rose up and spoke out! For the past three days, Senate offices were swamped with calls, faxes and emails DEMANDING open discussion of changes to the Endangered Species Act! Many Senators listened to their constituents and placed a "hold" on S.990. A "hold" places a temporary delay on legislation. With only three days in session, Monday through Wednesday, November 18 to 20, it would be enough to stop the Endangered Species Land Grab. The Big Green enviro's point man on S.990 is leftwing Senator Harry Reid of Nevada. Reid worked desperately to convince Senators to remove their "holds" and allow S.990 to slip through without a vote or debate. But with the grassroots tide rising and the light of day shining on S.990, there was no way. Sometimes, democracy works. ACTION ITEM - Pat yourself on the back. YOU DID IT! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To unsubscribe from future mailings just reply with unsubscribe in the subject line. __________________ Peter S. Di Primo Founding Member and Current President - VCAS4WDC www.axlesnappers.org Help Fight Global Warming- turn your A/C on high and open all your windows. Last edited by YellowSub1962; 11-21-2002 at 09:10 AM.

11-21-2002, 09:19 AM	#2
Whitewater Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 89 Location: ElDoCo Posts: 3,641	Although I'm not completely against the Endangered Species Act I think it's turned into a huge front/scam. Damn I'm glad this one didn't get through! Thanks for posting this sub. __________________ The task is not so much to see what no one yet has seen, but to think what nobody yet has thought about that which everybody sees. Arthur Schopenhauer.

11-21-2002, 09:26 AM	#3
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas Posts: 3,188	as cheif would say woooofawkinnnnnwhoooooo __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad

11-21-2002, 10:10 PM	#5
Lil Uzi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6359 Location: Placer County Where the Green Grass Grows CA Posts: 438	Erucka, eee chee chick chik chik Do you mean my vote for Barbara Boxer is wasted ? __________________ not surprized yer confused yer face was burried in the pillow pretty deep as gizim drunk as you were

11-21-2002, 10:58 PM	#6
LOPPY Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1108 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 3,722	thanks Mr. Sub for keeping us posted on this. IMHO, you dont get enough credit for what you do. I'm damn proud to be one of those "thousands".... My activism is constant, mostly through letters, emails and faxes since I have a young family and am the sole bread winner, getting that in depends on people like you and your devotion to making it easy for us to throw our weight around. Keep up the outstanding work I wish I had the time to devote to. I'd like to extend a hearty :thumbsup: to you and the like. Cheers Sub. __________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end" R. J. Wiedemann LtCol. USMC Ret

11-21-2002, 11:23 PM	#7
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