E-Locker vs. ARB

OB · 02-12-2003, 11:42 PM

With the thread posted about what you could have done differently I need some more opinions before I drop some serious cash. Some would swap the e-locker for an ARB, other wish they had a better setup for the ARB. Is ther an advantage for one over the other? Strength issues? I'd like to run 5.29's and am ready to go with the factory e-lock unit, but will hold out for the ARB if it's a little stronger. What say you?

Ben Holloway · 02-12-2003, 11:46 PM

kinda wish i had an arb instead of my e-locker

Ben

OOP'S · 02-13-2003, 12:00 AM

Five years on an ARB and I have never had a problem!!

OB · 02-13-2003, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben Holloway
kinda wish i had an arb instead of my e-locker

Ben

Reason? Is it front or rear?

Ben Holloway · 02-13-2003, 12:08 AM

front, just easier and works quicker

Ben

crash · 02-13-2003, 12:12 AM

ARB all the way, have had one since 94, and just recently broke it, and went down to there main distribution center here in seattle and they fixed it up for me, and even putting one in my new d60 for the rear

OB · 02-13-2003, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben Holloway
front, just easier and works quicker

Ben

Would the Downey kit fix this or would you still have to roll it to disengage?

Ben Holloway · 02-13-2003, 12:25 AM

it would fix it but tack on another 125 bucks or so

Ben

Arnold · 02-13-2003, 09:52 AM

It looks like ARB wins.

sleepertoy · 02-13-2003, 10:41 AM

Despite the problem I noted in the other thread (what you would do different). I need to point out tha I *really* do like the ARB.

I run 5.29s from US Gear. I was worried about snagging the lines going to the difs on brush and what not but if properly routed there's no need to worry that I can see. In my case, I'd have to blow away both drive shafts in order to expose the air lines. I run ARBs in both front and rear but i see a lot of folks that like to go detroit in back and ARB up front. Since mine is a DD as well as trail rig, I chose ARB for both.

Up here in the Oregon, the roads are icy every so often and I do a lot better than some guys here with detroits and such since I can turn mine off.

brocbronc · 02-13-2003, 11:05 AM

Id vote for an ARB. I have one in the front of my 69 bronco and it works great. For the Toyota, I would go with the ARB because if you ever do break it you can throw in an open diff or welded diff. The elocker requires housing modifications and if you break, you have to replace with another elocker. You can move it around easier ie, front , rear, another truck, rent it to a friend for a week etc. Gotta love those TOyotas....my2cents.

DRM · 02-13-2003, 12:06 PM

All I know is I have been VERY happy with ARB lockers since I got the first one back in 1995, and IMHO - *ANY* selectable locker for a front axle is the BEST option.

ROKTOY · 02-13-2003, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by DRM
All I know is I have been VERY happy with ARB lockers since I got the first one back in 1995, and IMHO - *ANY* selectable locker for a front axle is the BEST option.

Agree!....ain't the first time either.

I like ARBs, especially in the front.
Jay

montezuma · 02-13-2003, 12:49 PM

Don't ARB's need to be rebuilt every couple of years or so? I don't own one, but had heard this.

DRM · 02-13-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by montezuma
Don't ARB's need to be rebuilt every couple of years or so? I don't own one, but had heard this.

Just more myths spread by people who are scared of the technology that an ARB represents

Seals *can* and *do* go bad. The seals in my ARB lasted from around 1996 to 2001 - installed some new ones one afternoon and back in action...

rockota · 02-13-2003, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DRM

Just more myths spread by people who are scared of the technology that an ARB represents

Seals *can* and *do* go bad. The seals in my ARB lasted from around 1996 to 2001 - installed some new ones one afternoon and back in action...

Agreed - easy solution. If you open your diff, replace the seals - no brainer. Doesn't matter why you pulled the diff, just replace the seals if you do.

Mine was installed in 96 (Jack?) and still works fine today. I had a bad pinion bearing and replaced the seals when that was fixed as a preventative measure.

Benny · 02-13-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben Holloway
front, just easier and works quicker

Ben

How the hell would you know. You have yours permanently locked

Buy a damn wiring kit and quit whining

I'll give ya $150 for it.

Ben Holloway · 02-13-2003, 07:41 PM

install wise jackass

Ben

Oatmeal · 02-13-2003, 07:44 PM

My buddy kept blowing the seals on his ARB due to too much pressure (he was running a non ARB compressor) we put a regulator on it and he has had no problems for years now. Also you might consider running a moisture trap to keep,well, moisture out of the piston and all. Just for extra insurance.

BJ On Roids · 02-13-2003, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brocbronc
Id vote for an ARB. I have one in the front of my 69 bronco and it works great. For the Toyota, I would go with the ARB because if you ever do break it you can throw in an open diff or welded diff. The elocker requires housing modifications and if you break, you have to replace with another elocker. You can move it around easier ie, front , rear, another truck, rent it to a friend for a week etc. Gotta love those TOyotas....my2cents.

agreed, run ARB front and back, run the rear for maybe 2-3 years now and the front for another year and a bit, and apart from electrical and compressor dramas its fine, mines a soft top, sees a lot of hard conditions and even a lot of water which is why im not impressed with the electrics, although:

with OBA and manual switchs itd be hard to beat

TNToy · 02-13-2003, 08:13 PM

If I were building another rig, I'd ARB a hi-pinion front and spool my V6 rear end. Keep the 4.10s. IMO, I'd save the diff-gear money for a 30MPG car to drive every day, and put the low gears where they belong. The T-case.

sleepertoy · 02-13-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TNToy
If I were building another rig, I'd ARB a hi-pinion front and spool my V6 rear end. Keep the 4.10s. IMO, I'd save the diff-gear money for a 30MPG car to drive every day, and put the low gears where they belong. The T-case.

Or you could run low gears in your dif and BOTH your T-cases and just ride the kid next door's bicycle to work!

soopatoy · 02-13-2003, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by pnwd00d

Or you could run low gears in your dif and BOTH your T-cases and just ride the kid next door's bicycle to work!

or just take the bus. i am gonna say ARB's. when you hit the switch and turn one of them off....you get the sound of excellence and coolness

sleepertoy · 02-14-2003, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by soopatoy

or just take the bus. i am gonna say ARB's. when you hit the switch and turn one of them off....you get the sound of excellence and coolness

Hah, hah. You know, my friends who don't wheel like that sound above all else on my rig. It's so... i dunno "sci-fi".

Rollover Roy · 02-14-2003, 08:41 PM

ARB's front and back since '96.

I'm not nice to them.

Most problems I've heard about were with heavier rigs.

Just take your time and be smart in routing the lines.

02-12-2003, 11:42 PM	#1
OB Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10822 Location: NJ Posts: 260	E-Locker vs. ARB With the thread posted about what you could have done differently I need some more opinions before I drop some serious cash. Some would swap the e-locker for an ARB, other wish they had a better setup for the ARB. Is ther an advantage for one over the other? Strength issues? I'd like to run 5.29's and am ready to go with the factory e-lock unit, but will hold out for the ARB if it's a little stronger. What say you? __________________ www.gclcny.com

02-13-2003, 12:00 AM	#3
OOP'S Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 30 Location: Roseville, CA,To many Yuppies, Not enough Hippies Posts: 14,098	Five years on an ARB and I have never had a problem!! __________________ David & Theresa, Roseville, CA, Excellent Parts Source http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/ http://www.marlincrawler.com/ http://www.12voltguy.com/web/

02-13-2003, 12:12 AM	#6
crash Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1588 Location: GOLDBAR Posts: 11,466	ARB all the way, have had one since 94, and just recently broke it, and went down to there main distribution center here in seattle and they fixed it up for me, and even putting one in my new d60 for the rear __________________ Why is it we all are for doing the same thing--but yet we can not work together to achieve it Mike Crash Kash The new live streaming video crashfab Crashfab Shopcam

02-13-2003, 10:41 AM	#10
sleepertoy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14335 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 510	arb Despite the problem I noted in the other thread (what you would do different). I need to point out tha I really do like the ARB. I run 5.29s from US Gear. I was worried about snagging the lines going to the difs on brush and what not but if properly routed there's no need to worry that I can see. In my case, I'd have to blow away both drive shafts in order to expose the air lines. I run ARBs in both front and rear but i see a lot of folks that like to go detroit in back and ARB up front. Since mine is a DD as well as trail rig, I chose ARB for both. Up here in the Oregon, the roads are icy every so often and I do a lot better than some guys here with detroits and such since I can turn mine off. __________________ ----------------------------------------------- "No matter how slow the film, Spirit waits for the photographer it has chosen." -Minor White ___________________________________

02-13-2003, 11:05 AM	#11
brocbronc Rock God Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3850 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 1,146	Id vote for an ARB. I have one in the front of my 69 bronco and it works great. For the Toyota, I would go with the ARB because if you ever do break it you can throw in an open diff or welded diff. The elocker requires housing modifications and if you break, you have to replace with another elocker. You can move it around easier ie, front , rear, another truck, rent it to a friend for a week etc. Gotta love those TOyotas....my2cents. __________________ 69 Bronco, 72 Bronco, 72 bronco, 66 scout I hate Smog certificates

02-12-2003, 11:46 PM	#2
Ben Holloway Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 6054 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,029	kinda wish i had an arb instead of my e-locker Ben

02-13-2003, 12:08 AM	#5
Ben Holloway Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 6054 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,029	front, just easier and works quicker Ben

02-13-2003, 12:25 AM	#8
Ben Holloway Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 6054 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,029	it would fix it but tack on another 125 bucks or so Ben

02-13-2003, 09:52 AM	#9
Arnold Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1246 Location: Stanwood, WA Posts: 2,104	It looks like ARB wins.

02-13-2003, 12:06 PM	#12
DRM The Quiet One Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 8 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 30,641 Blog Entries: 1	All I know is I have been VERY happy with ARB lockers since I got the first one back in 1995, and IMHO - ANY selectable locker for a front axle is the BEST option. __________________ >David > 4x4Spot.com >It only hurts the first* time you agree with me...* >"A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men." >*FOR SALE: 87 4Runner / 60's / 3link rear / 39" PitBulls - $7500*

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montezuma Rock God Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16789 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,792	Don't ARB's need to be rebuilt every couple of years or so? I don't own one, but had heard this. __________________ The Parts Pimp. I'm looking for highpinion TTB Dana44 gears in a 3.08. Let me know if you've got some. Collision Parts warehouse San Diego for replacement fenders and radiators: http://www.1800bodyparts.com/

02-13-2003, 07:41 PM	#18
Ben Holloway Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 6054 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,029	install wise jackass Ben

02-13-2003, 07:44 PM	#19
Oatmeal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14600 Location: Covina,Ca. Posts: 981	My buddy kept blowing the seals on his ARB due to too much pressure (he was running a non ARB compressor) we put a regulator on it and he has had no problems for years now. Also you might consider running a moisture trap to keep,well, moisture out of the piston and all. Just for extra insurance.

02-14-2003, 08:41 PM	#25
Rollover Roy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14435 Location: Mesa,AZ Posts: 135	ARB's front and back since '96. I'm not nice to them. Most problems I've heard about were with heavier rigs. Just take your time and be smart in routing the lines. __________________ There are no good excuses not to follow the pick-up.

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