My official 80 build

JERM83 · 10-23-2009, 07:18 PM

I am a new member but i have been lurking on this board for years but now i finally have a project. It is a 62 Scout that already had a sbc 350, with a sm420, & dana 20. It has a 4" body lift so the motor will clear. I was told that it sat for about 3 years. I bought it in February and since then i have been hard at work. Here are some pictures from when i bought it.

[IMG]http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t51/drummondj

/4X4/P1070703.jpg[/IMG]

JERM83 · 10-23-2009, 07:19 PM

Since I got it home i have spent a lot of time under the hood getting the motor running better, changing all fluids, going through the brakes, upgraded to stainless brake lines, extended shock towers, custom radiator support, electric fans. Took it camping in July, here are a few pictures.

And here it is now how it sits. I installed a set of 33" BFG Mud Terrains, a set of flowmasters, and painted it olive drab. I am currently gathering parts for power steering.

Blind Driver · 10-23-2009, 07:31 PM

Ummm...I don't know what to say. Except wtf is with the body lift

dboy · 10-23-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Driver

Ummm...I don't know what to say. Except wtf is with the body lift

Looks like a real nice starting point!

but x2 on the body lift.

JERM83 · 10-23-2009, 07:37 PM

The person who did the body lift used solid aluminum blocks that are not pictured. What you see in the picture is support for the inner fender. It will be replaced.

okkool77 · 10-23-2009, 07:37 PM

What the hell is with that body lift?
otherwise....
Welcome to the addiction of scouts...
Now just remember that "Search" is your best friend.
Whats next after the power steering?

Blind Driver · 10-23-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JERM83

The person who did the body lift used solid aluminum blocks that are not pictured. What you see in the picture is support for the inner fender. It will be replaced.

Carry on then. So far, so good, but...ummm..might want to get better at your welding skillz

JERM83 · 10-23-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by okkool77

Whats next after the power steering?

After power steering I will be swapping in a front 44 with reverse shackles, and chevy 52" springs.

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Originally Posted by Blind Driver

Carry on then. So far, so good, but...ummm..might want to get better at your welding skillz

I had a friend do the welding for me. They might not be pretty but they are strong. A lot of the problem with welding is that my house has old wiring and the breaker keeps popping making it a pain!

rkscout · 10-23-2009, 11:35 PM

Nice starting point. Are you planning on running the 52" springs up front? I'm running chevy 47" up front and 52"s out back. I'd watch the 52"s up front, you will be running into obstackles before the tire can climb them. Even on 38's I still have my spring hitting before the tire can climb. The 350 will fit without the body lift, you might have to notch out the drivers fire wall a little bit though. Nice start though.

Urban Wheeler · 10-23-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rkscout

Nice starting point. Are you planning on running the 52" springs up front? I'm running chevy 47" up front and 52"s out back. I'd watch the 52"s up front, you will be running into obstackles before the tire can climb them. Even on 38's I still have my spring hitting before the tire can climb. The 350 will fit without the body lift, you might have to notch out the drivers fire wall a little bit though. Nice start though.

Even with factory manifolds I had to notch a bit for clearance. You don't need much.

Look in the FAQ, there are a number of 80/800 builds.

Brandon · 10-23-2009, 11:47 PM

Are you using a dryer plug? You should run a dedicated plug rated for your welder not a dryer. Are you going to keep the stock column? If not.. dibs

I'll have to swing by sometime and check it out, your practically walking distance..

Feel free to check mine out for ideas on the steering etc.. I have no body lift and fit my V8 just fine, some cutting involved though.

Creative thread title

JERM83 · 10-24-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rkscout

Nice starting point. Are you planning on running the 52" springs up front? I'm running chevy 47" up front and 52"s out back. I'd watch the 52"s up front, you will be running into obstackles before the tire can climb them. Even on 38's I still have my spring hitting before the tire can climb. The 350 will fit without the body lift, you might have to notch out the drivers fire wall a little bit though. Nice start though.

That is good to know. I probably will run the 52's out back and just get a set of 47's for the front, thanks for the advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon

Are you using a dryer plug? You should run a dedicated plug rated for your welder not a dryer. Are you going to keep the stock column? If not.. dibs

I'll have to swing by sometime and check it out, your practically walking distance..

Feel free to check mine out for ideas on the steering etc.. I have no body lift and fit my V8 just fine, some cutting involved though.

Creative thread title

No, it was a 110v welder, and its not mine. Part of the problem. Are you referring to the stock steering column? If so then no, i am installing a tilt wheel from a chevy van that does not have the ignition on the column. Stop by anytime Brandon, i am working on it this weekend.

Regarding the body lift, look i know it looks horrible and it makes the center of gravity worse, thats how it was when i bought it. It will have to stay for a while because i dont have a welder to do all the firewall notching, and i plan on taking the body off the frame in the future anyway, and i can fix it then. I will also have to make new motor and tranny mounts, and lower them down some, they sit too high.

Thanks for all the comments!

JERM83 · 10-24-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

Creative thread title

war pony · 10-24-2009, 09:46 AM

Can't wait to see more.

JERM83 · 10-24-2009, 01:39 PM

Here is a pic of the condition of my front 44. When i bought the scout it came with the front 44 and a shortened 60 for the rear.

I dont know why anyone would paint them white.

Ole Sarge · 10-25-2009, 12:37 AM

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guidolyons · 10-25-2009, 08:16 AM

Looks like a good start (minus the body lift)

A suggestion for your powersteering upgrade is to use a 88-98 Chevy IFS steering box with drop pitman arm for a late '70's Jeep Wagoneer ($60 from Summit) find some flattop knuckles if you don't already have some ($40-60to get it milled and drilled for highsteer). I used a steering column from an '87 Chevy truck, the splines matched the steering box, but I swapped in a u-joint from Speedway motors for better strength and to clear the radiator. The GM powersteering pump will bolt up to your SBC, (get the ones with O-ring hoses to match the box).

I used 52" Chevy springs up front with a shackle reversal, but I stretched the front frame a few inches. You should have plenty of room in there for a SBC

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JERM83 · 10-25-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by guidolyons

Looks like a good start (minus the body lift)

A suggestion for your powersteering upgrade is to use a 88-98 Chevy IFS steering box with drop pitman arm for a late '70's Jeep Wagoneer ($60 from Summit) find some flattop knuckles if you don't already have some ($40-60to get it milled and drilled for highsteer). I used a steering column from an '87 Chevy truck, the splines matched the steering box, but I swapped in a u-joint from Speedway motors for better strength and to clear the radiator. The GM powersteering pump will bolt up to your SBC, (get the ones with O-ring hoses to match the box).

I used 52" Chevy springs up front with a shackle reversal, but I stretched the front frame a few inches. You should have plenty of room in there for a SBC

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Thanks for the suggestions. We are on the same page with the power steering. This is what i have so far; Saginaw pump from a 92 camaro, power steering pump from a chevy van, steering column from a chevy van, and i ordered 2 u joints from speedway the other day (waiting for them in the mail). I was not sure what pitman arm to use. I have read that the grand cherokees had a 4" drop pitman from factory and used saginaw box. Is it a 3" drop pitman from the wagoneer?

I would like to have high steer, but i want to do it when i put the 44 in front. I was told if i bought a high steer kit for the factory front axle, i might have to buy another for the 44 because they might not be the same length. I dont have a lot of money and i dont like to buy parts twice.When i do a ji-steer, this is what I was thinking about buying.
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...rs_p_1337.html
The current setup (the way i bought it) has a y link that has a lot of slop in it. I was thinking about beefing up he y link and running it (temporarily so it can be moved around) until i swap the front axle.

Shadow man · 10-25-2009, 12:24 PM

Hang there with the rig and try not to get too discouraged.

In the long run, it will be worth it. (I think)

guidolyons · 11-02-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JERM83

Thanks for the suggestions. We are on the same page with the power steering. This is what i have so far; Saginaw pump from a 92 camaro, power steering pump from a chevy van, steering column from a chevy van, and i ordered 2 u joints from speedway the other day (waiting for them in the mail). I was not sure what pitman arm to use. I have read that the grand cherokees had a 4" drop pitman from factory and used saginaw box. Is it a 3" drop pitman from the wagoneer?

I would like to have high steer, but i want to do it when i put the 44 in front. I was told if i bought a high steer kit for the factory front axle, i might have to buy another for the 44 because they might not be the same length. I dont have a lot of money and i dont like to buy parts twice.When i do a ji-steer, this is what I was thinking about buying.
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...rs_p_1337.html
The current setup (the way i bought it) has a y link that has a lot of slop in it. I was thinking about beefing up he y link and running it (temporarily so it can be moved around) until i swap the front axle.

Sounds like you got a pretty good handle on it.

The Wagoneer dropped pitman arm was for a 4-6" lift, the actual drop on ther arm itself was only a few inches, but it worked well to clear the front crossmember (which I later cut out to fit the PSD).

I got almost all my highsteer stuff from Ballistic Fab, Arms, DOM, threaded inserts, but I used TREs.

If you need to get your knuckles milled/drilled/tapped, I used John Nutter Ent.

http://www.jnutter.com/ $50 ea includes return shipping.

There's a few others that offer it as well partsmike is another.

JERM83 · 11-07-2009, 07:34 PM

Not too much going on with the build. Still waiting parts from Speedway. UPS lost my package, then UPS had to open an investigation, and now they said they are having speedway re-ship the u-joints.I also spent quite a while stripping the paint from the inside of the top (sorry no pics of that). I cut off the factory steering box mount, then cleaned up the front frame with a flap disk and wire wheel. Took the shocks off each side when painting so i could put in some longer bolts. Here are some pics.

BLK Scout 800 · 11-08-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rkscout

Nice starting point. Are you planning on running the 52" springs up front? I'm running chevy 47" up front and 52"s out back. I'd watch the 52"s up front, you will be running into obstackles before the tire can climb them. Even on 38's

Not true you just have to set them up right....I had 52'' in front and 56's in the rear and they were fine. (see pic) later went to 56's in front and 63's in the rear and they were killer!

*EDIT*
To O/P looks good you have the basic idea for a great start seems like you did your homework

JERM83 · 11-08-2009, 04:08 AM

Thank you for the advice and nice Scout! I like the idea of running 52" springs up front if i don't have to extend the frame. If i do need to extend the frame i will just use 47"s. Got any more pictures of your suspension?

chris fresh · 11-08-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK Scout 800

Not true you just have to set them up right....I had 52'' in front and 56's in the rear and they were fine. (see pic) later went to 56's in front and 63's in the rear and they were killer!

*EDIT*
To O/P looks good you have the basic idea for a great start seems like you did your homework

blkscout, once upon a time huh!

wonder if he realizes where yer at now, show um a current suspention pic

JetFxr · 11-08-2009, 08:59 AM

Nice Scout Welcome to Pirate, nice to someone that understands the system

10-23-2009, 07:18 PM	#1
JERM83 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125140 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 23	My official 80 build I am a new member but i have been lurking on this board for years but now i finally have a project. It is a 62 Scout that already had a sbc 350, with a sm420, & dana 20. It has a 4" body lift so the motor will clear. I was told that it sat for about 3 years. I bought it in February and since then i have been hard at work. Here are some pictures from when i bought it. [IMG]http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t51/drummondj /4X4/P1070703.jpg[/IMG] __________________ 62 Scout SBC350,SM420,DANA20

10-23-2009, 07:19 PM	#2
JERM83 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125140 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 23	Since I got it home i have spent a lot of time under the hood getting the motor running better, changing all fluids, going through the brakes, upgraded to stainless brake lines, extended shock towers, custom radiator support, electric fans. Took it camping in July, here are a few pictures. And here it is now how it sits. I installed a set of 33" BFG Mud Terrains, a set of flowmasters, and painted it olive drab. I am currently gathering parts for power steering. __________________ 62 Scout SBC350,SM420,DANA20 Last edited by JERM83; 10-23-2009 at 07:39 PM.

10-23-2009, 07:37 PM	#5
JERM83 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125140 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 23	The person who did the body lift used solid aluminum blocks that are not pictured. What you see in the picture is support for the inner fender. It will be replaced. __________________ 62 Scout SBC350,SM420,DANA20 Last edited by JERM83; 10-23-2009 at 07:37 PM.

10-23-2009, 07:37 PM	#6
okkool77 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Member # 121028 Location: California Posts: 117	What the hell is with that body lift? otherwise.... Welcome to the addiction of scouts... Now just remember that "Search" is your best friend. Whats next after the power steering? __________________ '71 Basterd Scout 2...with a 258 from a '73 CJ5... Intake manifold with NHRA markings....go figure Last edited by okkool77; 10-23-2009 at 07:38 PM.

10-23-2009, 11:47 PM	#11
Brandon Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,035	Are you using a dryer plug? You should run a dedicated plug rated for your welder not a dryer. Are you going to keep the stock column? If not.. dibs I'll have to swing by sometime and check it out, your practically walking distance.. Feel free to check mine out for ideas on the steering etc.. I have no body lift and fit my V8 just fine, some cutting involved though. Creative thread title __________________ This Space for rent! Last edited by Brandon; 10-23-2009 at 11:50 PM.

10-23-2009, 11:35 PM	#9
rkscout Wheeler Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100982 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 129	Nice starting point. Are you planning on running the 52" springs up front? I'm running chevy 47" up front and 52"s out back. I'd watch the 52"s up front, you will be running into obstackles before the tire can climb them. Even on 38's I still have my spring hitting before the tire can climb. The 350 will fit without the body lift, you might have to notch out the drivers fire wall a little bit though. Nice start though.

10-24-2009, 09:46 AM	#14
war pony Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 105834 Location: Vacaville, California Posts: 488	Can't wait to see more. __________________ war pony build http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651553

10-24-2009, 01:39 PM	#15
JERM83 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125140 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 23	Here is a pic of the condition of my front 44. When i bought the scout it came with the front 44 and a shortened 60 for the rear. I dont know why anyone would paint them white. __________________ 62 Scout SBC350,SM420,DANA20

10-25-2009, 12:37 AM	#16
Ole Sarge GOT FREEDOM? Join Date: Oct 2009 Member # 144823 Location: Afghanistan... Again Posts: 22	Subscribed __________________ ~Ole' Sarge 71 Scout, EFI, SOA, OBA, Hydroboost, 37s, D60/14b, various body mods.

10-25-2009, 12:24 PM	#19
Shadow man Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1956 Location: Colorado again Posts: 1,428	Hang there with the rig and try not to get too discouraged. In the long run, it will be worth it. (I think) __________________ IH SSII, 42" Pit Bull Rockers, 2007 H3. wheelingcolorado.com

11-07-2009, 07:34 PM	#21
JERM83 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125140 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 23	Not too much going on with the build. Still waiting parts from Speedway. UPS lost my package, then UPS had to open an investigation, and now they said they are having speedway re-ship the u-joints.I also spent quite a while stripping the paint from the inside of the top (sorry no pics of that). I cut off the factory steering box mount, then cleaned up the front frame with a flap disk and wire wheel. Took the shocks off each side when painting so i could put in some longer bolts. Here are some pics. __________________ 62 Scout SBC350,SM420,DANA20

11-08-2009, 04:08 AM	#23
JERM83 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125140 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 23	Thank you for the advice and nice Scout! I like the idea of running 52" springs up front if i don't have to extend the frame. If i do need to extend the frame i will just use 47"s. Got any more pictures of your suspension? __________________ 62 Scout SBC350,SM420,DANA20 Last edited by JERM83; 11-08-2009 at 04:09 AM.

11-08-2009, 08:59 AM	#25
JetFxr Wheeler Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4586 Location: Somewhere in the middle of Montana Posts: 351	Nice Scout Welcome to Pirate, nice to someone that understands the system __________________ I'll have mine on the rocks

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