Lincoln Locker Just installed (pics)

nickbike · 10-18-2001, 02:16 AM

Lincoln Locker just put in tonight. I am just waiting till tomorrow for the silicon to dry before filling it with fluid. It will be trail tested on Saturday on a pretty mild trail (the AZ Crown King run). Hope it holds up. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">
Does it look good to you guys? It was welded at Kong's 4x4.

Pazuzu · 10-18-2001, 02:28 AM

Ya know, thanks for the pics. I've never seen a welded diff, and couldn't visualize what was to be welded, and where. Now it makes total sense.

Al Kaholick · 10-18-2001, 03:06 AM

damn and i thought the pinion got welded to the ring gear, who'd a thunk? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">
seriously though, i saw one of my buddies almost burn down a truck doing that it was hilarious, it was an s10, and they cleaned it carb cleaner (i think) left the drippan under while welding, it caught fire, I yelled at him, he kept welding, yelled again "hey jimmy, thats not normal" he keeps goin, all of a sudden i see his hood go flyin and he jumps out from under the truck, im laughing my ass of drunk as hell, he says he thought it was getting hot under there, i asked him why didnt listen, i guess he thought i was joking

[ 10-18-2001: Message edited by: rokcrawla ]

OOP'S · 10-18-2001, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickbike:
[QB]I am just waiting till tomorrow for the silicon to dry before filling it with fluid.

I love this line, do you watch paint dry also!!!
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Serously looks pretty good. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

crawler#976 · 10-18-2001, 07:51 AM

ya had the right guy's do it!

see ya sat.- you'll get to test it!

Mark

clearn · 10-18-2001, 01:07 PM

This is what mine looked like. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

97Taco · 10-18-2001, 02:48 PM

Is that a plate of steel welded on there? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">

Brent

nickbike · 10-18-2001, 07:07 PM

So I filled 'er up with some gear oil this afternoon and took it for a spin. Wasn't quite expecting that much tire sqealing, but I found the secret. The faster you go around corners, the less they squeal. It lightens up the inside tire the faster you go. I also did a few donuts in the dirt lot by the house, that's kinda cool.

AZToy · 10-18-2001, 08:49 PM

glade to here you got it ready to go for the weekend. Did you use the seal? if not feel free to return them and I'll refund you.
Mark

NE-RokToy · 10-18-2001, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clearn:

This is what mine looked like. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

this is how I'm gonna do mine!liiks beefy <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

GRABBER · 10-18-2001, 09:10 PM

Sweet, I love mine. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> The cheepest best mod. ever.

clearn · 10-19-2001, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 97Taco:
Is that a plate of steel welded on there? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">

Brent

Yup! A little newbie trick.

<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

Works great and it aint gonna break (I hope). <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> The truck was running a 4.3TBI with 4.88 gears and 35"s. I say was because I sold it to work on another project. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

Skyetone · 10-19-2001, 07:17 AM

So what are some "tricks" to this mod? I see the plate but that seems to be a PITA. So do you clean the gears extra good? Welld REALLY hot or just hot? I would guess one pass but how thick of weld? Any particular rod better than another? Hella way to get a trail spare diff. Got a friend that can setup gears and then weld the piss outa em.
BTW Like pic #1&2 but an't see the welds well in #3 or is thatto show off your cylicone? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

NE-RokToy · 10-19-2001, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Just make it stop Skyetone:
So what are some "tricks" to this mod? I see the plate but that seems to be a PITA. So do you clean the gears extra good? Welld REALLY hot or just hot? I would guess one pass but how thick of weld? Any particular rod better than another? Hella way to get a trail spare diff. Got a friend that can setup gears and then weld the piss outa em.
BTW Like pic #1&2 but an't see the welds well in #3 or is thatto show off your cylicone? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

how is cutting down a peice of flat stock to fit between the spider gears a pain in the ass??? it might be more troble then just welding the gears together but it is a hell of a lot stronger. Also why setup gears then weld? you wouldnt be able to get to all the spiders and you would risk focking up your new gears

<IMG width=792 height=507 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/welded.jpg">

here is what I'm gonna do

clearn · 10-19-2001, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Just make it stop Skyetone:
So what are some "tricks" to this mod? I see the plate but that seems to be a PITA. So do you clean the gears extra good? Welld REALLY hot or just hot? I would guess one pass but how thick of weld? Any particular rod better than another? Hella way to get a trail spare diff. Got a friend that can setup gears and then weld the piss outa em.
BTW Like pic #1&2 but an't see the welds well in #3 or is thatto show off your cylicone? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

Well the plate wasn't that hard to do. Slight bend in it to form with the gears then some notching around the gears.

<IMG SRC="smilies/rasta.gif" border="0"> Nothing most people couldn't handle. And yes I made sure I washed and waxed the gears thoroughly before welding. It's just wire welded with stainless I believe. <IMG SRC="smilies/sleep.gif" border="0"> And you should probably do the welding before you setup the gears.

Chazzworth · 10-19-2001, 02:37 PM

I have done plenty of rear ends and never waited for the silicone to dry. No need and no leaks. If you use a gasket it will almost allways leak.

nickbike · 10-19-2001, 06:53 PM

Mark, the seals for the axle don't seem to be leaking. They fit in there, but kinda funny. There was an extra lip on the seal that kinda rolled back as the brake backing plates were reinstalled. (Hard to explain)
I was just being careful about the silicon drying. I didn't know if it would leak or not. But it wasn't like I was in a hurry to fill it anyways. But I will know for next time, if I need to fill and drive, its all good. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

miniyota · 10-19-2001, 07:24 PM

damn, i want to do that bad!

i bet it would really suck in the snow. and i don't want to wear out my tires any faster.

but i want traction! to many reasons to and not enough to not. well, i'm gonna do it!
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Skyetone · 10-19-2001, 09:11 PM

True can weld the spiders and still pull it all apart and then setup gears hu? See the plate a little better. I may do it with the plate now. Gonna weld my buddies, We'll see....

jason W · 10-21-2001, 03:02 PM

Is it a good idea to weld up the front? I have a Detroit in the rear of my 82, open up front. I am looking for a budget locker up front. I can swap the the open 3rd back in for winter driving. I could just unlock the hubs for tight turns. What do you guys think?

nickbike · 10-21-2001, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jason W:
Is it a good idea to weld up the front? I have a Detroit in the rear of my 82, open up front. I am looking for a budget locker up front. I can swap the the open 3rd back in for winter driving. I could just unlock the hubs for tight turns. What do you guys think?

That's was my thinking also Jason. From what I've heard though, its not a good idea. People have said that you can't barely make any turns at all with a locked front end and the hubs locked in. I've heard that you will spend most of your four-wheeling time getting out to unlock and lock the hubs. But like I said, this is only what I've heard/read from other people. I haven't tried.

TANKOMA · 10-21-2001, 07:12 PM

Quote:

how is cutting down a peice of flat stock to fit between the spider gears a pain in the ass??? it might be more troble then just welding the gears together but it is a hell of a lot stronger. Also why setup gears then weld? you wouldnt be able to get to all the spiders and you would risk focking up your new gears

<IMG width=792 height=507 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/welded.jpg">

here is what I'm gonna do

---

Arn't you supposed to weld the gears to the carrier too <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0"> Maybe im just a dumbass though... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
??

NCtoy · 10-21-2001, 08:11 PM

I welded my front end after i broke several of the spider gear teeth. Turning definately is harder, depending on how much traction you are getting i guess. I don't usually get out to lock and unlock the hubs, just back up a little if i really have to. I haven't broken anything yet either, and i welded it almost 2 years ago.
BTW I welded mine to the carrier too. When welding in the diff, i always weld a short bead and let the whole thing cool, then weld again on the opposite side, so the whole thing stays as cool as possible, hopefully not losing too much of its temper.

TANKOMA · 10-22-2001, 01:32 PM

Do you weld the gears to the carrier too?? <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">

VT_Toy · 10-22-2001, 02:39 PM

The guy who welded mine did 2 or 3 passes to build it up.

10-18-2001, 07:51 AM	#5
crawler#976 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5402 Location: North of Prescott, AZ Posts: 1,028	ya had the right guy's do it! see ya sat.- you'll get to test it! Mark __________________ 2009 Dodge Power Wagon with stuff on it...

10-18-2001, 02:48 PM	#7
97Taco Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4601 Location: butler,PA Posts: 173	Is that a plate of steel welded on there? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> Brent __________________ '84 pickup, longbed '97 tacoma TOYOTA!!!

10-18-2001, 07:07 PM	#8
nickbike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6720 Location: Formerly Tempe, Arizona now Austin, TX Posts: 117	So I filled 'er up with some gear oil this afternoon and took it for a spin. Wasn't quite expecting that much tire sqealing, but I found the secret. The faster you go around corners, the less they squeal. It lightens up the inside tire the faster you go. I also did a few donuts in the dirt lot by the house, that's kinda cool. __________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]FOR SALE[/COLOR][/B] $3000, 85 Toyota with EFI Swap, Turbo tranny, Thorley Header, Dynomax muffler, Sony Stereo with 10 disk CD changer, V6 rear third with lockrite, 3" body lift, and 3" Extended shackels. 32" BFG ATs. Pics [URL="http://www.nickbike.com/four%20wheeling%20pics/85forsale/"]here[/URL]. For Sale Thread [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479125"]here[/URL]

10-18-2001, 09:10 PM	#11
GRABBER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2306 Location: Susanville, CA, USA Posts: 860	Sweet, I love mine. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> The cheepest best mod. ever. __________________ Rig-less): [URL=http://home.earthlink.net/~eandnwilliams/]IRON MOUNTAIN TOYS[/URL]

10-19-2001, 07:17 AM	#13
Skyetone Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 305 Location: SLC utah Posts: 2,783	So what are some "tricks" to this mod? I see the plate but that seems to be a PITA. So do you clean the gears extra good? Welld REALLY hot or just hot? I would guess one pass but how thick of weld? Any particular rod better than another? Hella way to get a trail spare diff. Got a friend that can setup gears and then weld the piss outa em. BTW Like pic #1&2 but an't see the welds well in #3 or is thatto show off your cylicone? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> __________________ I feel like a newbie all over again :D [email]Skyetone@msn.com[/email]

10-18-2001, 02:16 AM	#1
nickbike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6720 Location: Formerly Tempe, Arizona now Austin, TX Posts: 117	Lincoln Locker Just installed (pics) Lincoln Locker just put in tonight. I am just waiting till tomorrow for the silicon to dry before filling it with fluid. It will be trail tested on Saturday on a pretty mild trail (the AZ Crown King run). Hope it holds up. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> Does it look good to you guys? It was welded at Kong's 4x4. __________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]FOR SALE[/COLOR][/B] $3000, 85 Toyota with EFI Swap, Turbo tranny, Thorley Header, Dynomax muffler, Sony Stereo with 10 disk CD changer, V6 rear third with lockrite, 3" body lift, and 3" Extended shackels. 32" BFG ATs. Pics [URL="http://www.nickbike.com/four%20wheeling%20pics/85forsale/"]here[/URL]. For Sale Thread [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479125"]here[/URL] Last edited by nickbike; 11-06-2001 at 01:34 AM.

10-18-2001, 02:28 AM	#2
Pazuzu Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 54 Posts: 4,854	Ya know, thanks for the pics. I've never seen a welded diff, and couldn't visualize what was to be welded, and where. Now it makes total sense.

10-18-2001, 03:06 AM	#3
Al Kaholick Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6421 Location: Citrus Heights Posts: 2,707	damn and i thought the pinion got welded to the ring gear, who'd a thunk? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> seriously though, i saw one of my buddies almost burn down a truck doing that it was hilarious, it was an s10, and they cleaned it carb cleaner (i think) left the drippan under while welding, it caught fire, I yelled at him, he kept welding, yelled again "hey jimmy, thats not normal" he keeps goin, all of a sudden i see his hood go flyin and he jumps out from under the truck, im laughing my ass of drunk as hell, he says he thought it was getting hot under there, i asked him why didnt listen, i guess he thought i was joking [ 10-18-2001: Message edited by: rokcrawla ] __________________ [QUOTE=anvil] your very informative reply has been noted. I think this is the same type of logic you used to draw your conclusion. Place banana in your ear. Observe that there is no alligators around. Conclude bananas placed in ears keep aligators away. [/QUOTE]

10-18-2001, 01:07 PM	#6
clearn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7383 Location: Kelowna Posts: 18	This is what mine looked like. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

10-18-2001, 08:49 PM	#9
AZToy Granite Guru Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6268 Posts: 517	glade to here you got it ready to go for the weekend. Did you use the seal? if not feel free to return them and I'll refund you. Mark __________________ -BTG Rockcrawlers-

10-19-2001, 02:37 PM	#16
Chazzworth Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3340 Location: US of A. Posts: 1,441	I have done plenty of rear ends and never waited for the silicone to dry. No need and no leaks. If you use a gasket it will almost allways leak. __________________ "I once had wealth, power, and the love of a beautiful woman, now I only have two things, my friends, and...uh... my Thermos."

10-19-2001, 06:53 PM	#17
nickbike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6720 Location: Formerly Tempe, Arizona now Austin, TX Posts: 117	Mark, the seals for the axle don't seem to be leaking. They fit in there, but kinda funny. There was an extra lip on the seal that kinda rolled back as the brake backing plates were reinstalled. (Hard to explain) I was just being careful about the silicon drying. I didn't know if it would leak or not. But it wasn't like I was in a hurry to fill it anyways. But I will know for next time, if I need to fill and drive, its all good. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]FOR SALE[/COLOR][/B] $3000, 85 Toyota with EFI Swap, Turbo tranny, Thorley Header, Dynomax muffler, Sony Stereo with 10 disk CD changer, V6 rear third with lockrite, 3" body lift, and 3" Extended shackels. 32" BFG ATs. Pics [URL="http://www.nickbike.com/four%20wheeling%20pics/85forsale/"]here[/URL]. For Sale Thread [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479125"]here[/URL]

10-19-2001, 07:24 PM	#18
miniyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5963 Location: wyoming Posts: 2,661	damn, i want to do that bad! i bet it would really suck in the snow. and i don't want to wear out my tires any faster. but i want traction! to many reasons to and not enough to not. well, i'm gonna do it! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ GETLOST4X4.COM, 2006 Jeep Commander (Chief) 4.7L V8 Limited 1978 Jeep Wagoneer (Tank) 6.6L V8

10-19-2001, 09:11 PM	#19
Skyetone Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 305 Location: SLC utah Posts: 2,783	True can weld the spiders and still pull it all apart and then setup gears hu? See the plate a little better. I may do it with the plate now. Gonna weld my buddies, We'll see.... __________________ I feel like a newbie all over again :D [email]Skyetone@msn.com[/email]

10-21-2001, 03:02 PM	#20
jason W Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4882 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 64	Is it a good idea to weld up the front? I have a Detroit in the rear of my 82, open up front. I am looking for a budget locker up front. I can swap the the open 3rd back in for winter driving. I could just unlock the hubs for tight turns. What do you guys think?

10-21-2001, 08:11 PM	#23
NCtoy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2756 Location: Waxhaw NC Posts: 194	I welded my front end after i broke several of the spider gear teeth. Turning definately is harder, depending on how much traction you are getting i guess. I don't usually get out to lock and unlock the hubs, just back up a little if i really have to. I haven't broken anything yet either, and i welded it almost 2 years ago. BTW I welded mine to the carrier too. When welding in the diff, i always weld a short bead and let the whole thing cool, then weld again on the opposite side, so the whole thing stays as cool as possible, hopefully not losing too much of its temper. __________________ Will

10-22-2001, 01:32 PM	#24
TANKOMA Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3056 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 601	Do you weld the gears to the carrier too?? <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0"> __________________ --------- Steve Dalton "Tank"/"Trugg" ....Parting out my '96 Tacoma Truggy

10-22-2001, 02:39 PM	#25
VT_Toy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 349 Location: Middlebury, VT Posts: 4,019	The guy who welded mine did 2 or 3 passes to build it up. __________________ www.BladeBase.com

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