ultimate shorty c4/klunev

sceep · 10-03-2005, 06:33 AM

I needed more gear, and more space. after muhco research the plan was to swap out the existing c6/205 for a c4/klune-v/205 utilizing the AA #50-2903 (c4 to atlas, short version). This adapter removes the entire tailhousing and governer of the c4 rquiring the use of a full manual valvebody. this kit shortens the c4 approx. 14".

the problem: as far as klune-v reps could tell me noone had done this before, and didnt know if it would work or not. after much help from both the klune v and AA reps/vendors. i think i had it covered that this was in-fact, doable.

fast forward 1 week.

parts in hand.

lets slap this baby together.

problem: the klune input seal retainer was creating an interference with the adapter.

seal retainer before modification:

retainer modifications:
1.remove .150 from the interfering areas
2. countersink the 4 holes to accept a Flat head cap screw. (mod. not shown.)

ahhh.. much better.

overall length. 22.5" without bellhousing. (bell not included do to many different variations of c4 bell depths.)

after some measureing of my dads c6/klune/205 combo, the use of the AA adapter and c4 shortens the overall assembly approx 4"(depending on bell selection). While not alot, the smaller size and less power robbing of the c4 makes this (so far) look like a damn good combo.

Nate

syko · 10-03-2005, 07:01 AM

What stall do you plan to run in your c4?

sceep · 10-03-2005, 07:03 AM

dunno yet... need to make some calls to some people a tad more in the know than myself. ATM i am thinking around 25-2600

rockteeth · 10-03-2005, 07:18 AM

Damm that adapter is short!!
I have been thinking about a Klune between my c4 and atlas using that same adapter.

XJ618 · 10-03-2005, 07:21 AM

damn, creative, nice work.

Gordon · 10-03-2005, 07:38 AM

Do you have any pictures of the modification to the governor and new output shaft for that short adapter?

sceep · 10-03-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Do you have any pictures of the modification to the governor and new output shaft for that short adapter?

i dont. the governor housing just gets whacked down to .530" from its flange surface. and the output shaft.. well.. looks like a short output shaft. LOL

I'll be tearing this whole thing down in a few months to fully build the c4. I'll snap some pics then.

sceep · 10-03-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XJ618

damn, creative, nice work.

thanks.. I'm VERY stoked that it worked out with such little effort. And i've let the folks at klune know what is needed so maybee next time someone wants to do this, they'll have some better answers

ItsaCJ6 · 10-03-2005, 04:02 PM

Nice Work Sceep. I have been considering going auto when I eventualy do the motor swap on my Jeep and since I am going 302 this sounds like very usefull info to have. Thanks

rock-rod · 10-03-2005, 05:36 PM

That's super cool. nice job and very creative.

Jeffh555 · 10-03-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sceep

after some measureing of my dads c6/klune/205 combo...

that's badass, i hope some day my kids are saying shit like that

m016324 · 10-03-2005, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sceep

i dont. the governor housing just gets whacked down to .530" from its flange surface. and the output shaft.. well.. looks like a short output shaft. LOL

I'll be tearing this whole thing down in a few months to fully build the c4. I'll snap some pics then.

Shit you didn't even have it until 3 this afternoon you damn liar!!!

It really doesn't look like much of anything except a flange after all the material is taken off. If you have the right tools it doesn't take too long to do but it's messy.

-ben

bigun · 10-03-2005, 09:36 PM

Looks good Nate I am assuming this is going in the buggy?

sceep · 10-04-2005, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffh555

that's badass, i hope some day my kids are saying shit like that

me too. my youngest son definatly has the wrenchin/wheelin bug already... my father and i spend a shitton of time inthe shop building stuff, and about 5 years ago i got him hooked on the wheelin bug. wouldn't change it for the world.

his rig.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m016324

Shit you didn't even have it until 3 this afternoon you damn liar!!!

It really doesn't look like much of anything except a flange after all the material is taken off. If you have the right tools it doesn't take too long to do but it's messy.
-ben

LIAR??? WTF LIAR?? i never said i had it.. i just said i didnt have pics. ya limey bastid.

Thanks ben.. i owe ya some

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigun

Looks good Nate I am assuming this is going in the buggy?

yep.. ditchin the c6. and this cute lil package is takin its place.. hope to have it all in this weekend... (you know how that goes though)

sceep · 10-03-2007, 02:29 PM

i never added the final pics to this .. here ya go.

Mr.N · 10-03-2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sceep

i never added the final pics to this .. here ya go.

Nice work!

How long from front of the Bell to yoke center?
Don't have any photos of the C4 with the short shaft?

mj · 10-05-2007, 04:56 PM

wassa length from block to rear output yoke?

sceep · 12-17-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.N

How long from front of the Bell to yoke center?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj

wassa length from block to rear output yoke?

back from the dead. have had a couple of people PM me lately with these same questions, that i never answered.

39.5" front of bellhousing to center of rear yoke.

91blaze · 12-17-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sceep

the 90's called - they want their cell phone back

sceep · 12-17-2008, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91blaze

the 90's called - they want their cell phone back

that phone was only a few years old when that pic was taken 3 years ago.

white-rhyno · 12-17-2008, 06:23 PM

Thanks Sceep,

why is it you cant use the 4:1 with a ford 205??

sceep · 12-18-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by white-rhyno

Thanks Sceep,

why is it you cant use the 4:1 with a ford 205??

looking at thier site, they now say it is compatible with the 31 spline fords. i'm gonna get ahold of them about it because if thats the case i want the 4:1 not the 2.7.

sceep · 12-18-2008, 01:41 PM

email from greg at high impact.
"The David is available with Jeep/Dodge 21 and 23 spl, and 31 spl Ford input.The 31 spl input gear was developed around 2000. The new 31 spl David input gear is NOT compatible with the older style David gearset.
The Goliath is available with 21, 23, 27, 29, 31, 32, 34 spl outputs
Output shafts available (Fits both david and Goliath) 6spl (for dana 20 input gear) 10 spl (female), 21, 23, 31 and 32spl
"

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