rubicon update:

[orangefj45]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...php?t=416038:(

[ranger]

Unreal........
I don't even want to think about what is store next......
A road through the con so the jeeper jamboree can bring worldwide yuppies to test drive the newest models.

[Tomsryd]

All just memories

[docroh]

I'm glad I was able to run it at least once before they killed it. Dang! took me 10 minutes to figure out the line, I was planning on sailing through it next trip out....guess I really won't have a problem now!!!

[rockthedog]

bummer

the Gate Keeper was fun. it banged up the Pig run pretty good this year for one last hurah.

whats next?

[rockthedog]

Originally Posted by docroh

I'm glad I was able to run it at least once before they killed it. Dang! took me 10 minutes to figure out the line, I was planning on sailing through it next trip out....guess I really won't have a problem now!!!

and i got all 10 minutes of it on video Dan...... give me call

592-7770

[smurfblue40]

Thats fawked

What genius thought that one up???

Glad I got to run it before and after lockers & gears

Hell... if they do anymore "improvements", I'll be able to get to the springs
in the Sienna

[teapot]

We have the wife on video in her rig before and after the build up. She is crying herself to sleep tonight.

[cardinal fang]

Now we an call it the gateway Unbelievable! Lots of fond memories of watching rocker panels getting munched there. Well, I guess I can take off my 5" angle iron I have on my rocker panels

[bryzuki]

thats bulllllllllllllllllllllll shit i was looking forward to seeing my girl friend go through in her fj60 i bought and was going to do a spoa on with 35s now im thinking of leaveing it stock by the time those yuppies get done (IMPROVEING) it she can just do it stock

[Rockzar]

its the only place you have to go through that doesn require a good tug, rockerpanels, or 35's. such a shame. I actually built my rockers just for gate keeper since it had a habit of grinding on min with 33's
RIP Gatekeeper. Now its just a flat section of fireroad.

[ironpig70]

By Time My Rig Is Done I Won't Need It To Run The Con

[Toploader]

Little Sluice is next.

[Gunmetalcruz]

this sucks

[Rockzar]

its too fun! lets blow it up!

[ddestruel]

Originally Posted by toploader

Little Sluice is next.

WE DID IT TO OURSELVES.

Many didnt take the hint with the lake closure. nor have we taken the hint every year the FS makes some comment about the trails getting wider errosion ect. i recall reading several reports outlining how the area is supposed to be two tracks wide......8' -10' ECT Everytime we pull up on an embankment or up onto bushes to let another rig get around us. we add to the errossion and the widening of the trail....these morons that make bypasses, tear up things and move rocks around, roll onto other peoples rigs pass people like idiots ect its all a recipe for self destruction.

Then you have the club rivalries, all clubs claim to be unified but no one chages or makes sacrifices, where one club claims sponsorship of a trail and then dubs themselves the king of one trail or another ordering others around instead of working with all users of the trail. this isnt an exclusive thing but many seem to think it should be. this drive towards continuing to divide all factions will be the demise, those who are still trying to make things happen are wearing out.... Dont believe me read some of Del's recent postings hes fed up with the politics between clubs, the bickering on small details and the unwillingness of all clbs to make a few sacrifices in the name of saving the trail.

[65SWB45]

It would be nice if you guys would chime in on the other thread with some support for cruzilla and Del. They're taking a lot of heat right now for the way this went down, and it would be nice to know that their efforts to help us are still being appreciated.

I personally witnessed some of the hill eroding lines [high side on the right, Rubithon '04] being taken that lead to this event, and IMO to the extent that they stop that one line from being an option we will all be better off at not being attacked by the greenies. I don't think they're out to level the whole thing, just trying to take a stab at some better drainage.

We all know in our hearts that the 'Con will never be truly tamed. Every winter, Nature WILL have her way. The control of Nature is a phrase conceived in arrogance-Rachel Carson

[orangefj45]

there was an interesting point brought up on the main thread: maybe if gate keeper is that tough then J**P can't bring in their 20 stock rigs so the big execs can have their fun. J**P is big money. we're not.

[fourlofirst]

Makes me wonder why any "wheelers" still support(buy) jeep/dodge/products. For all the chit about boycotting the Sierra Club, etc...

[2manycruisers]

And of course it's not just the Rubicon. BLM is throwing around the same hints in Moab. Read the Environmental Assessment for the renewal of the Special Use Permit for Easter Jeep Safari and others. (http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab/) It's clear they absolutely support renewing the permit. But they make clear there are problems that need addressed, too.

Originally Posted by ddestruel

WE DID IT TO OURSELVES.

Many didnt take the hint with the lake closure. nor have we taken the hint every year the FS makes some comment about the trails getting wider errosion ect. i recall reading several reports outlining how the area is supposed to be two tracks wide......8' -10' ECT Everytime we pull up on an embankment or up onto bushes to let another rig get around us. we add to the errossion and the widening of the trail....these morons that make bypasses, tear up things and move rocks around, roll onto other peoples rigs pass people like idiots ect its all a recipe for self destruction.

[85toyboy]

I only got to run the Rubi once when I still lived in CA, back in 2000. Gatekeeper was the first obstacle I remember on the trail, but it didn't look near as tough as some of the pictures from recently. I guess it all about money, if the Jambo can't get through, blow it up. We all build our rigs to be more and more capable, and there are going to be less and less trails to use them on, which only increases the amount of traffic on trails.

[mr_manny]

Going through Gatekeeper is definitely a moment you remember.
I will never forget that morning, and the friends I shared it with...

Gatekeeper RIP
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/t230cl...3yz_DBTuq_Zjw_

[smurfblue40]

Originally Posted by mr_manny

Going through Gatekeeper is definitely a moment you remember.
I will never forget that morning, and the friends I shared it with...

Gatekeeper RIP
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/t230cl...3yz_DBTuq_Zjw_

Patti's bummed that she will never have the opportunity to run the gate keeper again...

Thanks for the link... some stuff there I don't have in the collection,
like Bagsmo's 45 "before" picture, I can still hear those rockers

[Rat70FJ]

Got this e mail from Bob Brown, fellow Toys on the Rocks member, yesterday. Seems he witnessed the event.

Kent....
Not all of the big rocks were reduced to rubble...actually four large rocks were blasted. Two at the very start that were in the middle of the trail, and two up where the pinch area was located. This was done to prevent the massive erosion that has been taking place in the area. 400lbs of Boom! Made a pretty big Boom and a bit of a mushroom cloud. The effort was a combo of Forest Service, DOT, Parks and Rec with reps from FOTR and even TOTR. Was a pretty interesting thing to see....Bob

Hopefully the paving isn't as bad as it initially sounded.

Kent

[peesalot]

You all have to little faith in mother nature. Those that felt the blasting was a nec. act to sustain future trail use with less enviro impact are so , so kidding themselves. Nature can and will totally change whatever is there after blasting. They may think it is fixed or whatever but
MARK MY WORDS :
That section is gonna be twice as nasty and with bigger ledges after a few winters , it aint gonna stay like they left it , no way , it's gonna erode and what ever new rocks they unearthed are gonna be there waiting. It is gonna happen just to fawk with the FS. Then they will say , shit , that did not work , must blast a better road bed and stabilize it with curbs and gutters.
I pray for one hellaova winter that just tears it up.