Tauras Fan wiring Diagram

RSWORDS · 02-01-2006, 01:51 PM

Picked up my fan today for $35... Gonna go find som 80 amp relays tonight... Here is how I am planing on wiring it.... What you think?

The way it should work is it should come on at a pre-set temp... unless I over ride it by switching it off or over to High...

RSWORDS · 02-01-2006, 02:08 PM

Thinking of using this relay...
http://www.oznium.com/relay80

1998chevy1500 · 02-01-2006, 03:38 PM

http://www.offroad-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2224

Hope that this helps a little

rustynuts · 02-01-2006, 03:45 PM

looks good. i need to do the same.

RSWORDS · 02-01-2006, 08:01 PM

I'm thinking of doing a real detailed write-up on it... seems like a whole lot of info on the board about it but nothing that is a step by step walk through... I'll most likly put it in the newbie section...

Evilwhitey · 02-01-2006, 09:02 PM

I was just thinking about putting a taurus fan on my yota but haven't got a clue of how to do it. Please do a nice detailed write up on it for all of us stupid newbies that don't know the 1st thing about wiring. Thanks!

JeepinDoug · 02-01-2006, 10:21 PM

Looks fine to me, the only thing I would change is your ACC switched power. Run it on 12v continuous, that way if you need to shut down the fan can keep coooling. If you don't want it to run, you over-ride it with the master kill switch.

RSWORDS · 02-02-2006, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepinDoug

Looks fine to me, the only thing I would change is your ACC switched power. Run it on 12v continuous, that way if you need to shut down the fan can keep coooling. If you don't want it to run, you over-ride it with the master kill switch.

Well here are my thought's behind that...

How often do you NEED to run the fan with the engine off? W/O water flow from a water pump it won't help alot to cool off the engine...
How many times would I (because I'm forgetfull as shit) leave the fan on and drain the battery
or worse how many times would I (again because I'm forgetfull as shit) forget to trn the fan on and roast the engine
I let others drive my truck... The less switches they have to flip the better I feel
If I need to run the fan with the truck off all I have to do is tuirn the key on

I was thinking of up-dating my design to be more like this... with the On-Off switch protected so that you can't "accidentaly" turn it off...

RSWORDS · 02-02-2006, 09:56 AM

Started getting the parts together...

Here is the fan... $35 from the junk yard... They pulled it for me.

And a universal temp controled switch from autozone... PN 226203... $18.89 after tax

Just need to figure out which wire goes where on the switch... No instructions with it.

demonranger · 02-02-2006, 10:22 AM

for a cheap relay that will work rather well get the glow plug relay for a 96 F350 7.3L Diesel.

They are in every parts store look roughly like a starter relay but are intended for a longer use and ground through one of the studs as opposed to many of the starter relays that ground through backing plate.

zx11kllr · 02-02-2006, 10:22 AM

How big is that fan. I am using a setup out of a mustang. It is a two fan system and it sure pulls a lot of air. Unless you just want to spend the money on a blingy relay you can buy an early model Ford starter solenoid. They are pretty much the same thing.

Here's my setup:

RSWORDS · 02-02-2006, 10:25 AM

The relay above is $17 and rated for 100% duty cycle...

RSWORDS · 02-02-2006, 11:02 AM

Just got the override switch... Found it in the ricer section of AutoZone for $10... The only problem with these kind of switches is that when the protective cover is dow (protecting) the switch is off... well I need it on 99.9% of the time so I had to reverse it... easy enough just pull off the cover and flip it around... now when the cover is down protecting the switch my fan will be on...

Urban Wheeler · 02-02-2006, 11:28 AM

The only thing wrong with it is that when you flip it to high the low side will still be powered. From what I gather on the board here, it makes the motor fight itself trying to run on both high and low at the same time.

Fan link

ironpig70 · 02-02-2006, 12:02 PM

also these fans take alot of amps to start up like in the 60-70 amp range. and they spin at 2000rpms

and they make 4-5 differnt sized 2 speed taurus fans iirc and this one should be around 22 1/2" wide 16" long and 4" thick shroud and 5" to the top of the motor. most are close to this but some have a notch like this / in the lower right corner. thats how mine is but its so small don't think it will hurt.

RSWORDS · 02-02-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Wheeler

The only thing wrong with it is that when you flip it to high the low side will still be powered. From what I gather on the board here, it makes the motor fight itself trying to run on both high and low at the same time.

Fan link

I looked my diagrams over thinking I had drawn something wrong but I don'r see how it would power both... The low speed is only on The Auto setting... when the switch is thrown over to High all the power is removed from the low side of the switch... Unless I am missing something...

RSWORDS · 02-02-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironpig70

also these fans take alot of amps to start up like in the 60-70 amp range.

hense the 80 amp relay in the 2nd post...

plug ugly · 02-08-2006, 04:42 PM

couldnt you just get a adjustable controller and run it off your temp sender you probably already have?

RSWORDS · 02-10-2006, 10:26 AM

I could... I looked at this {url}http://www.dccontrol.com/index.htm[/url]
but I found some high amp relays for free... and Have all the things I need to do this now. My dad is the service manager at a marina here and he snaged some relays off of a power trim and tilt unit that they replaced in a repower job... HE said that it was working fine when it came off a week ago... I got the whole unit including the electric-hydrolic pump... I'm keeping the pump in my shed to see what he flow rate and Pressures are so it can maybe be retrofitted to some sort of rear steer...

ItsaCJ6 · 02-10-2006, 10:36 AM

Something I have toyed with, but never set up is a water level (Jeep in creek water level) shut off for the fan. Something like this could be mounted below the fan near the bottom of the radiator. You would use a relay that is set for {normaly closed on open contacts}. When water shorts your senosr (say two wires close together) it opens your {normaly closed contacts on close} and shuts down your fan. This would elimiate the need for a manual fan switch for creek crossings deep enough to get water up to the fan. Or a small float switch could be mounted under the radiator the same way.

resqme · 02-25-2006, 05:49 PM

I know this fan controller is pricey, but a very trick way to control your electric fan. THought you might be interested.

plug ugly · 02-25-2006, 07:07 PM

any idea what kinda amps it can handle?

resqme · 02-25-2006, 07:28 PM

Nope, but that would be important, wouldn't it? I am using one of their tach signal interface modules to set my VSS pulses so the computer likes it...works very well, and their support was excellent.

Murfman · 02-27-2006, 12:22 AM

I did the Tarus fan last winter in my YJ. Works great. I discovered that driving down the road, I don't even need the fan on. I run it on low most times and only once, while wheeling a long slow uphill, did it get even close to overheating. I will hook up another relay on the high side so I won't have to worry about those long uphills. This is all switched through a 3 way switch on the dash.

plug ugly · 03-03-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plug ugly

any idea what kinda amps it can handle?

for anyone else, I emailed them and here is their response.

Quote:

Hello,
The pac-2000 will only control relays and the limits or relay
dependant. If you have a 30amp relay the max is 30amps at 14.4 volts.

Thanks for your interest in Dakota Digital products.
Dakota Digital Inc. 1-800 852-6513

Techsupport@dakotadigital.com
Jared VerBeek
Electronic Technician

02-01-2006, 01:51 PM	#1
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	My Tauras Fan wiring Diagram Picked up my fan today for $35... Gonna go find som 80 amp relays tonight... Here is how I am planing on wiring it.... What you think? The way it should work is it should come on at a pre-set temp... unless I over ride it by switching it off or over to High... Last edited by RSWORDS; 02-01-2006 at 01:59 PM.

02-01-2006, 03:45 PM	#4
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02-02-2006, 09:56 AM	#9
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	Started getting the parts together... Here is the fan... $35 from the junk yard... They pulled it for me. And a universal temp controled switch from autozone... PN 226203... $18.89 after tax Just need to figure out which wire goes where on the switch... No instructions with it. Last edited by RSWORDS; 02-02-2006 at 09:57 AM.

02-02-2006, 10:22 AM	#10
demonranger Rock God Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18283 Location: Florida Posts: 1,068	for a cheap relay that will work rather well get the glow plug relay for a 96 F350 7.3L Diesel. They are in every parts store look roughly like a starter relay but are intended for a longer use and ground through one of the studs as opposed to many of the starter relays that ground through backing plate. __________________ There are no rules. You have to think!

02-02-2006, 11:28 AM	#14
Urban Wheeler Low level terrorist Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26369 Location: In the lab Posts: 3,720 Blog Entries: 5	The only thing wrong with it is that when you flip it to high the low side will still be powered. From what I gather on the board here, it makes the motor fight itself trying to run on both high and low at the same time. Fan link __________________ Time to party like it's 1775! Last edited by Urban Wheeler; 02-02-2006 at 11:28 AM.

02-01-2006, 02:08 PM	#2
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	Thinking of using this relay... http://www.oznium.com/relay80

02-01-2006, 03:38 PM	#3
1998chevy1500 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38330 Posts: 39	http://www.offroad-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2224 Hope that this helps a little

02-01-2006, 08:01 PM	#5
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	I'm thinking of doing a real detailed write-up on it... seems like a whole lot of info on the board about it but nothing that is a step by step walk through... I'll most likly put it in the newbie section...

02-01-2006, 09:02 PM	#6
Evilwhitey Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 64230 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 494	I was just thinking about putting a taurus fan on my yota but haven't got a clue of how to do it. Please do a nice detailed write up on it for all of us stupid newbies that don't know the 1st thing about wiring. Thanks!

02-01-2006, 10:21 PM	#7
JeepinDoug Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 13028 Location: So.S.F., CA Posts: 3,135	Looks fine to me, the only thing I would change is your ACC switched power. Run it on 12v continuous, that way if you need to shut down the fan can keep coooling. If you don't want it to run, you over-ride it with the master kill switch.

02-02-2006, 10:22 AM	#11
zx11kllr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 62912 Posts: 250	How big is that fan. I am using a setup out of a mustang. It is a two fan system and it sure pulls a lot of air. Unless you just want to spend the money on a blingy relay you can buy an early model Ford starter solenoid. They are pretty much the same thing. Here's my setup:

02-02-2006, 10:25 AM	#12
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	The relay above is $17 and rated for 100% duty cycle...

02-02-2006, 11:02 AM	#13
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	Just got the override switch... Found it in the ricer section of AutoZone for $10... The only problem with these kind of switches is that when the protective cover is dow (protecting) the switch is off... well I need it on 99.9% of the time so I had to reverse it... easy enough just pull off the cover and flip it around... now when the cover is down protecting the switch my fan will be on...

02-02-2006, 12:02 PM	#15
ironpig70 NO HOE'S OR BRO'S Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6957 Posts: 4,173	also these fans take alot of amps to start up like in the 60-70 amp range. and they spin at 2000rpms and they make 4-5 differnt sized 2 speed taurus fans iirc and this one should be around 22 1/2" wide 16" long and 4" thick shroud and 5" to the top of the motor. most are close to this but some have a notch like this / in the lower right corner. thats how mine is but its so small don't think it will hurt.

02-08-2006, 04:42 PM	#18
plug ugly Rock God Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 1,650	couldnt you just get a adjustable controller and run it off your temp sender you probably already have? __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

02-10-2006, 10:26 AM	#19
RSWORDS Non omnis moriar Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49595 Posts: 678	I could... I looked at this {url}http://www.dccontrol.com/index.htm[/url] but I found some high amp relays for free... and Have all the things I need to do this now. My dad is the service manager at a marina here and he snaged some relays off of a power trim and tilt unit that they replaced in a repower job... HE said that it was working fine when it came off a week ago... I got the whole unit including the electric-hydrolic pump... I'm keeping the pump in my shed to see what he flow rate and Pressures are so it can maybe be retrofitted to some sort of rear steer...

02-25-2006, 05:49 PM	#21
resqme Rock God Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21815 Location: Pollock Pines, CA Posts: 2,337	I know this fan controller is pricey, but a very trick way to control your electric fan. THought you might be interested. __________________ WWDD? N6YBH - "If you need a tool and don't buy it, you will ultimately find that you have paid for it but don't have it". -Henry Ford Use Goodsearch and support the Rubicon Trail Foundation.

02-25-2006, 07:07 PM	#22
plug ugly Rock God Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16680 Location: Rocklin Posts: 1,650	any idea what kinda amps it can handle? __________________ 94 Mall Rated Bronco wt4x4.com PM me for CPR/First Aid Instruction for you club

02-25-2006, 07:28 PM	#23
resqme Rock God Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21815 Location: Pollock Pines, CA Posts: 2,337	Nope, but that would be important, wouldn't it? I am using one of their tach signal interface modules to set my VSS pulses so the computer likes it...works very well, and their support was excellent. __________________ WWDD? N6YBH - "If you need a tool and don't buy it, you will ultimately find that you have paid for it but don't have it". -Henry Ford Use Goodsearch and support the Rubicon Trail Foundation.

02-27-2006, 12:22 AM	#24
Murfman Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11973 Location: Colorado Springs, Co Posts: 576	I did the Tarus fan last winter in my YJ. Works great. I discovered that driving down the road, I don't even need the fan on. I run it on low most times and only once, while wheeling a long slow uphill, did it get even close to overheating. I will hook up another relay on the high side so I won't have to worry about those long uphills. This is all switched through a 3 way switch on the dash. __________________ Only in a Jeep

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