TNF - Fordyce Letter Generator is UP!!!

Bebe · 10-29-2008, 03:19 PM

Letter Generator is up, follow the link in my HUGE sig line

jethrodeg · 10-29-2008, 04:52 PM

Great information!!!! Nice job.

Tinman · 10-29-2008, 05:48 PM

Excellent!

I suggest posting the letter generator link on other off road sites you visit to get it to as many people as possible.

If I wasn't sitting in the parking lot in Pleasant Hill waiting for the DEIS meeting to start with only about 10 minutes of battery power left I'd be writing my letter right now. As soon as I get to a plug I'll send mine.

Thanks Bebe and Kurt!

Savage100 · 10-29-2008, 07:07 PM

I sent one in. Thanks for putting it up!

jethrodeg · 10-30-2008, 01:15 PM

Takin this bad boy to the TOP

Kurtuleas · 10-30-2008, 05:04 PM

It's kicking back an e-mail...but do not worry, it's still going through to TNF.

The e-mail that is kicking back is Bebe's that we are using to keep track of the comments

elarsen · 10-31-2008, 08:45 AM

Good to know about the email- I was just about to contact you Kurt.

Thanks for all the hard work.The generator is fantastic!

Bebe · 10-31-2008, 05:43 PM

It's all fixed now!!

We have 17 letters Woo Hoo!!! Thank you to all who have taken the time!

We need a few (like 5000K) more please

We could use some LU Leader help, like posting on all sites/forums, emailing the link to your email lists etc.

Thank you.

Bebe
_____

yotasmob · 11-01-2008, 02:42 PM

I posted this on marlin, greasemonkey4x4 and ih8mud.com.

microtus · 11-02-2008, 09:17 AM

Our club does a "Founders run" on the TNF each year in celebration of our clubs founding in February of 1967. It is a snow run to the Bowman lake area.

The club received this email..

Founders run canceled:

NO JOKE!!!!!!!

Write a friggin letter people!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/letters/

With that said. I have to admit that I really hate writing letters, as opposed to actually doing work on the trails. I really like to see the fruits of my efforts
, which letters seldom seem to provide. Time will tell.

Kurtuleas · 11-03-2008, 08:36 PM

We know who sent letters in thru the generator, and when the FEIS comes out, it will have the names of everyone who has sent in comments.

Next season, My fat ass will take off my shirt and give a skin to skin hug to everyone on the trail that DID NOT send a letter.

tb05rubi · 11-04-2008, 10:07 AM

letter sent. Once again thanks for the generator. It was very helpful.

Rubicrawler · 11-04-2008, 05:41 PM

Sent

Slapahoe · 11-07-2008, 03:16 PM

sent!

microtus · 11-07-2008, 04:40 PM

Does a person need to be a member of Pirate in order to use the letter generator? There are a few hunting forums I could link to the thread that could generate a few more letters from those outside of the 4wheel community.

Bebe · 11-07-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microtus

Does a person need to be a member of Pirate in order to use the letter generator? There are a few hunting forums I could link to the thread that could generate a few more letters from those outside of the 4wheel community.

No.

That would be great!

jethrodeg · 11-13-2008, 03:29 PM

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jjeep71 · 11-14-2008, 09:56 AM

Done, Thanks for putting this together!

Tinman · 11-16-2008, 12:49 PM

Here's an excerpt from a letter that may give some ideas for topics for your own letters you want to send.

"My comments in this letter are directed toward the Fordyce Jeep Trail. These are in order moving from the Eagle Lake side of the trail to the Meadow Lake side or “up trail”. I have broken these down into each section of the trail that have been marked by a “YRS-F1” on alternative number 6. It is my intent to keep these sections of trail on the map. I do believe they serve an important purpose and pose little to no environmental impact as stated in the DEIS.

YRS-F1
Eagle Lakes area
short spur to dispersed camping
No GPS on this location
A section that allow used to get to camping areas with little to no environmental impact. This is a needed part of the trail that allows used to reach a destination spot for camping.

YRS-F1
Just past the log ramp is an existing trail that forks left and ties back into the trail shortly ahead.
Very sustainable surface conditions and provides a turnout to let used pass without going off trail.
GPS (N lat)= 39 21 718 (W long)= 120 32 007

YRS-F1
Carlisle Mine Spur
Short section mostly on hard surface
Good camping destination spot on flat ground. Long enough to get people off the trail for camping.
Approx GPS (N lat)= 39 21 640 (W long)= 120 31 750

YRS-F1
Winch Hill 1 bypass
The Winch Hill #1 bypass is a critical part of the Fordyce Trail. It allows users to get around a harder section of trail as well as an alternative for vehicles that have damaged and are unable to continue on the main section of trail. Without the bypass there is the potential use users becoming stranded.
GPS (N lat)= 39 21 667 (W long)= 120 32 761

YRS-F1
Spur road to lagoon
This is a small spur road leading to a destination camping spot. It is long enough to get vehicles off the main trail and provides a very enjoyable location to camp.
GPS (N lat)= (W long)= No Data

YRS-F1
Committee crossing area
This is an area that I would call a turnout more than anything. It will allow used to get around each other without going off trail. It is mostly rock and provides some camping as well.
GPS (N lat)= 39 22 626 (W long)= 120 30 169"

I would suggest using one of the trail sections you are familiar with and elaborate on it and include reasons you like the section, what it means to your enjoyment of your use of the Fordyce trail and a bit about how the area is enviormentally stable for use. If anyone has GPS coordinates for the ones listed that are missing please share them here. Sending a file with a map section with the area circled was sugested at the DEIS meeting in Pleasant Hill.

Tinman · 11-17-2008, 05:46 PM

Whoo hoo, comment period extended!! Get those letters in!

Tinkerbelle · 11-17-2008, 07:16 PM

I sent mine!!

2187ccs · 11-18-2008, 08:04 PM

sent my letter. is there anything else i can do

Tinman · 11-18-2008, 09:37 PM

Buy the forest and open it up as a free private OHV park.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Keep informed

Keep making noise about public access.

Don't do anything stupid that makes OHV use look bad in the general public's eyes.

Tell others to do the same if they want to keep enjoying the TNF.

Tinman · 11-18-2008, 09:41 PM

Wait a minute. You're in Nagasaki and you sent a letter?

Damn, you just did a lot.

OK all you Californians that actually have a chance to use our forest. If a guy in Japan can send a letter you sure can!!

No excuses. The internet is a powerful thing.

10-29-2008, 04:52 PM	#2
jethrodeg H Rated Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36099 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 875	Great information!!!! Nice job. __________________ aka: Rainfly Friends of Fordyce

10-29-2008, 05:48 PM	#3
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,030	Excellent! I suggest posting the letter generator link on other off road sites you visit to get it to as many people as possible. If I wasn't sitting in the parking lot in Pleasant Hill waiting for the DEIS meeting to start with only about 10 minutes of battery power left I'd be writing my letter right now. As soon as I get to a plug I'll send mine. Thanks Bebe and Kurt! __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER, UNITED 4WD ASSOCIATION Last edited by Tinman; 10-29-2008 at 05:48 PM.

10-30-2008, 01:15 PM	#5
jethrodeg H Rated Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36099 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 875	Takin this bad boy to the TOP __________________ aka: Rainfly Friends of Fordyce

10-30-2008, 05:04 PM	#6
Kurtuleas Little Sluice Idiot Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 5,331 Blog Entries: 1	It's kicking back an e-mail...but do not worry, it's still going through to TNF. The e-mail that is kicking back is Bebe's that we are using to keep track of the comments __________________ The Friends of Eldorado 4405 KOH Pledge #2 OV ROCK-SPORTS KOH 2010 #4405 MFS "Land-use" Buggy Motorsport Fabrication Services

10-31-2008, 05:43 PM	#8
Bebe chicks dig bandaids Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75270 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 4,476	It's all fixed now!! We have 17 letters Woo Hoo!!! Thank you to all who have taken the time! We need a few (like 5000K) more please We could use some LU Leader help, like posting on all sites/forums, emailing the link to your email lists etc. Thank you. Bebe _____ __________________ The 4405 MFS Land Use Buggy KOH RACE-A-THON Click here to make your pledge Facebook Friends of the Rubicon Website Rubicon Trail Talk Forum

10-29-2008, 03:19 PM	#1
Bebe chicks dig bandaids Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75270 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 4,476	TNF - Fordyce Letter Generator is UP!!! Letter Generator is up, follow the link in my HUGE sig line __________________ The 4405 MFS Land Use Buggy KOH RACE-A-THON Click here to make your pledge Facebook Friends of the Rubicon Website Rubicon Trail Talk Forum

10-29-2008, 07:07 PM	#4
Savage100 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 94923 Location: Meadow Vista Posts: 83	I sent one in. Thanks for putting it up!

10-31-2008, 08:45 AM	#7
elarsen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18320 Location: Lake County Posts: 1,004	Good to know about the email- I was just about to contact you Kurt. Thanks for all the hard work.The generator is fantastic!

11-01-2008, 02:42 PM	#9
yotasmob Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 42484 Location: California Posts: 583	I posted this on marlin, greasemonkey4x4 and ih8mud.com. __________________ ...

11-02-2008, 09:17 AM	#10
microtus Granite Guru Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19251 Location: Dixon, Ca Posts: 729	Our club does a "Founders run" on the TNF each year in celebration of our clubs founding in February of 1967. It is a snow run to the Bowman lake area. The club received this email.. Founders run canceled: NO JOKE!!!!!!! Write a friggin letter people!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.pirate4x4.com/letters/ With that said. I have to admit that I really hate writing letters, as opposed to actually doing work on the trails. I really like to see the fruits of my efforts , which letters seldom seem to provide. Time will tell. __________________ RIP Dennis Mayer KI6MLD

11-03-2008, 08:36 PM	#11
Kurtuleas Little Sluice Idiot Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 23188 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 5,331 Blog Entries: 1	We know who sent letters in thru the generator, and when the FEIS comes out, it will have the names of everyone who has sent in comments. Next season, My fat ass will take off my shirt and give a skin to skin hug to everyone on the trail that DID NOT send a letter. __________________ The Friends of Eldorado 4405 KOH Pledge #2 OV ROCK-SPORTS KOH 2010 #4405 MFS "Land-use" Buggy Motorsport Fabrication Services

11-04-2008, 10:07 AM	#12
tb05rubi throw dem bones! Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 80007 Location: Brentwood, CA Posts: 57	letter sent. Once again thanks for the generator. It was very helpful. __________________ 05 rubicon 3.5 RE s/f 33's, tom woods, warn armor, currie

11-04-2008, 05:41 PM	#13
Rubicrawler Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2037 Location: Brentwood, CA 150 mi. from the 'Con Posts: 5,409	Sent __________________ Mark Langford KI6TMK '86 CJ7, ProRock60's, 4.88's/Detroits/35 Spline Alloys/CTM's, TBI 350, 700R4, 4:1 D300 w/Twin Stick Want to help a "Little guy" race at King of the Hammers? Dysfunctional Rockcrawlers (TDO)

11-07-2008, 03:16 PM	#14
Slapahoe Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50068 Location: Napa Valley Posts: 911	sent! __________________ [COLOR="DarkOrange"][URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617094"]89 Toy xcab[/URL][/COLOR] [COLOR="DimGray"]93 YJ[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkRed"]08 Yamaha Raptor 700R[/COLOR] [QUOTE=Landslide;7336622]So, you have a micrometer eye huh? Probably a torque wrench built into your wrist too.[/QUOTE]

11-07-2008, 04:40 PM	#15
microtus Granite Guru Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19251 Location: Dixon, Ca Posts: 729	Does a person need to be a member of Pirate in order to use the letter generator? There are a few hunting forums I could link to the thread that could generate a few more letters from those outside of the 4wheel community. __________________ RIP Dennis Mayer KI6MLD

11-13-2008, 03:29 PM	#17
jethrodeg H Rated Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 36099 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 875	t __________________ aka: Rainfly Friends of Fordyce

11-14-2008, 09:56 AM	#18
jjeep71 71 CJ5 Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 110523 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 109	Done, Thanks for putting this together! __________________ 71' CJ5, 87' 231 V-6, SM465, D-18 w/Warn OD, D44-Detroit, D27 Powerlock & disc brakes, Warn 9000# winch.

11-16-2008, 12:49 PM	#19
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,030	Here's an excerpt from a letter that may give some ideas for topics for your own letters you want to send. "My comments in this letter are directed toward the Fordyce Jeep Trail. These are in order moving from the Eagle Lake side of the trail to the Meadow Lake side or “up trail”. I have broken these down into each section of the trail that have been marked by a “YRS-F1” on alternative number 6. It is my intent to keep these sections of trail on the map. I do believe they serve an important purpose and pose little to no environmental impact as stated in the DEIS. YRS-F1 Eagle Lakes area short spur to dispersed camping No GPS on this location A section that allow used to get to camping areas with little to no environmental impact. This is a needed part of the trail that allows used to reach a destination spot for camping. YRS-F1 Just past the log ramp is an existing trail that forks left and ties back into the trail shortly ahead. Very sustainable surface conditions and provides a turnout to let used pass without going off trail. GPS (N lat)= 39 21 718 (W long)= 120 32 007 YRS-F1 Carlisle Mine Spur Short section mostly on hard surface Good camping destination spot on flat ground. Long enough to get people off the trail for camping. Approx GPS (N lat)= 39 21 640 (W long)= 120 31 750 YRS-F1 Winch Hill 1 bypass The Winch Hill #1 bypass is a critical part of the Fordyce Trail. It allows users to get around a harder section of trail as well as an alternative for vehicles that have damaged and are unable to continue on the main section of trail. Without the bypass there is the potential use users becoming stranded. GPS (N lat)= 39 21 667 (W long)= 120 32 761 YRS-F1 Spur road to lagoon This is a small spur road leading to a destination camping spot. It is long enough to get vehicles off the main trail and provides a very enjoyable location to camp. GPS (N lat)= (W long)= No Data YRS-F1 Committee crossing area This is an area that I would call a turnout more than anything. It will allow used to get around each other without going off trail. It is mostly rock and provides some camping as well. GPS (N lat)= 39 22 626 (W long)= 120 30 169" I would suggest using one of the trail sections you are familiar with and elaborate on it and include reasons you like the section, what it means to your enjoyment of your use of the Fordyce trail and a bit about how the area is enviormentally stable for use. If anyone has GPS coordinates for the ones listed that are missing please share them here. Sending a file with a map section with the area circled was sugested at the DEIS meeting in Pleasant Hill. __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER, UNITED 4WD ASSOCIATION

11-17-2008, 05:46 PM	#20
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,030	Whoo hoo, comment period extended!! Get those letters in! __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER, UNITED 4WD ASSOCIATION

11-17-2008, 07:16 PM	#21
Tinkerbelle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 94899 Posts: 1	I sent mine!!

11-18-2008, 08:04 PM	#22
2187ccs from the dirty 530 Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104889 Location: Sasebo, Japan/ Grass Valley, CA Posts: 7	sent my letter. is there anything else i can do

11-18-2008, 09:37 PM	#23
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,030	Buy the forest and open it up as a free private OHV park. Sorry, couldn't resist. Keep informed Keep making noise about public access. Don't do anything stupid that makes OHV use look bad in the general public's eyes. Tell others to do the same if they want to keep enjoying the TNF. __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER, UNITED 4WD ASSOCIATION

11-18-2008, 09:41 PM	#24
Tinman Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21358 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,030	Wait a minute. You're in Nagasaki and you sent a letter? Damn, you just did a lot. OK all you Californians that actually have a chance to use our forest. If a guy in Japan can send a letter you sure can!! No excuses. The internet is a powerful thing. __________________ Bret Preble President Friends of Fordyce Friends of Fordyce BLUE RIBBON COALITION, CALIFORNIA 4WD ASSOCIATION, AMA LIFE MEMBER, UNITED 4WD ASSOCIATION Last edited by Tinman; 11-19-2008 at 08:11 AM.

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