Throwin a 60 under my D-MAX

Chopperman · 06-16-2009, 09:39 PM

OK, so maybe this could go in chit chat, tow rigs, or other, but I think it fits here OK.. mmmkayyy

You and I know that after the first real dent / flop, you'll see this beast camped at buck lol.. trying to avoid any real CARNAGE, but WTF... if you wheel it, it will come

Diagnosis - after two years of "light" wheeling, mild trails, snow and fire roads my IFS finally took a major DUMP.... I tagged a rock while doing some whooops at moonrocks, then got high centered on a rock, and then it just went down hill from there, shredded the lift kit, snapped a tie rod end, destroyed the rear Dline and tranny mount

blah blah vlah IFS BLOWS

Solution - Do what chevy should have done in the first place

- steel rear drive shaft
- HP kingpin (79 ford ) 60

- King RESY coilovers

- hysteer
- 4 link front
- 4.10 gearing
- ARB front
- beadlocked 37's

I just order my PLATES "NOMOIFS"

LOL

Here are a few initial PICS until the parts start rolling in... No real fab pics as I haven't broken out the hypertherm yet

Chopperman · 06-16-2009, 09:41 PM

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guidolyons · 06-16-2009, 09:42 PM

This should be good

Chopperman · 06-16-2009, 09:43 PM

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LowDown · 06-16-2009, 09:59 PM

don't you need the axle level relative to the truck, not the ground?

Chopperman · 06-16-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LowDown

don't you need the axle level relative to the truck, not the ground?

yup.. IFS is still under the MANG.. I was just showin off my new axle jacks

level was on ther for another reason !!!

that pic was just show and tell

kiyul4130 · 06-16-2009, 10:21 PM

looks like you bailed out on the double cab taco idea/plan?

Chopperman · 06-16-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kiyul4130

looks like you bailed out on the double cab taco idea/plan?

Needone of those too !!! . .actually I came to realize, that i would absolutley destroy a rig like that...

I need a 4 seater 1 ton buggy BAD..

my D-MAX is a light trail/ snow / DD / camping / tow rig

kiyul4130 · 06-16-2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopperman

Needone of those too !!! . .actually I came to realize, that i would absolutley destroy a rig like that...

ya your right. the 4runner was still sick as fuck, even if beat down.

Blue-Beard · 06-16-2009, 11:44 PM

Should be a sweet project. Any particular reason you are thinking 4 link instead of 3 link plus a panhard? Just seems as a daily driver having the panhard would be better because of the reduction of bumpsteer.

bigbaggedbeast · 06-16-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue-Beard

Should be a sweet project. Any particular reason you are thinking 4 link instead of 3 link plus a panhard? Just seems as a daily driver having the panhard would be better because of the reduction of bumpsteer.

id have to agree either way your gonna need a pan hard on that beast the three link should give you more room for drive shaft and exhaust clearance even if you radius arm the one side as this thing is not gonna need to be a flex monster but handling will be a priority id assume ... you have proven you have skills can't wait to see what you come up with

Chopperman · 06-17-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbaggedbeast

id have to agree either way your gonna need a pan hard on that beast the three link should give you more room for drive shaft and exhaust clearance even if you radius arm the one side as this thing is not gonna need to be a flex monster but handling will be a priority id assume ... you have proven you have skills can't wait to see what you come up with

the "kit" I'm thinking about buying is a parallel 4 link with pan hard... Bottom line on this one is, I need to get this thing back up and running ASAP as its my DD, i have ZERO time to sit, stare and think about a system that might work.... I need something that's already been designed.. bolt / weld and go so to speak.... I would swap out their shocks for resy kings though, buy some balaistc fab arms / steering parts and pitman arm and brake lines from ORU

I'm still up in the air on this kit vs fabbing my own stuff.... I just don't have the time .. REALLY... Been working 12-14 hour days 6-7 days a week now, so time is a HUGE priority for me right now...

If I buy this kit I'm looking at one weekend worth of work to get back on the road...

I don't know.... Either way, I'm buying parts tomorrow, I need to get this thing rolling...

bigbaggedbeast · 06-17-2009, 12:40 AM

we both know once you get that shit in your hands all your gonna see is it's limitations and what you should do

i hear the time crunch part thou ...

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...t-p-16803.html

that kit minus the upper frame brackets, the upper shock mounts are just 2 hoops w tabs, lowers are tab's on the axle so you have to make the upper frame mounts and tie the hoops together and you know that shit will take a pounding.

just trying to play devils advocate for ya ..

good luck looking forward to see what you come up with

Chopperman · 06-17-2009, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbaggedbeast

we both know once you get that shit in your hands all your gonna see is it's limitations and what you should do

i hear the time crunch part thou ...

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...t-p-16803.html

that kit minus the upper frame brackets, the upper shock mounts are just 2 hoops w tabs, lowers are tab's on the axle so you have to make the upper frame mounts and tie the hoops together and you know that shit will take a pounding.

just trying to play devils advocate for ya ..

EDIT: if that pure performance kit was about 500 less without coilovers... I would be collecting disney points RIGHT NOW....

good luck looking forward to see what you come up with

I know... I spoke with dave about that very kit for about 30 minutes. Honestly, I'm torn between that kit and the pure performance kit thats a 100% fit, but is about 2K without coilovers

I just need to get the axle under their and start looking around.... no time though...

bigbaggedbeast · 06-17-2009, 01:00 AM

lol of course you did

tell dave he needs to prototype this swap so he can sell lots of them and you will be kind enough to let him use your truck for it ...

im out the am is coming to fast have good one man

Chopperman · 06-17-2009, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbaggedbeast

lol of course you did

tell dave he needs to prototype this swap so he can sell lots of them and you will be kind enough to let him use your truck for it ...

im out the am is coming to fast have good one man

told him that VERY THING.. his response.... Sooooo, how many people are throwin 60's under their D-maxs BRO... LOL

Out

Ben Segrest · 06-17-2009, 01:45 AM

Dumb question, will the stock T-case work with that drivers drop axle?

Black Dog · 06-17-2009, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Segrest

Dumb question, will the stock T-case work with that drivers drop axle?

The stock 261/263 is drivers drop if that's what you mean. It does have a slip yoke front output which is less than ideal for a lifted solid axle rig.

chevyforlife502 · 06-17-2009, 05:38 AM

Its going to be sick when shes all said and done

confederate muscle · 06-17-2009, 06:11 AM

Be carefull with ordering that steering from ORU....a few weeks ago, my swap that would only took two days took three weeks due to the steering arms being on back order and no one telling me about it when i placed my order. Ended up playing phone tag and finally got things lined out.

good look....youll love it, just wish i had went DMAX

Azzy2000 · 06-17-2009, 07:57 AM

That Ford blue 60 looks good under the chebby

I would just buy the material and fab your own mounts/links. We all know you can do it and do it right, judging from your other builds.

Looking forward to a non bolt-on update

mobil1syn · 06-17-2009, 08:40 AM

drop $9k and pick it up when its done

http://www.blitzkriegoffroad.com/pro...SOLID_AXLE_KIT

Ten_Bucks · 06-17-2009, 08:47 AM

Looks like this is gonna be a cool rig when its all done. Will you be retaining the front ABS or getting rid of it completely?

Scott

Blue-Beard · 06-17-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopperman

the "kit" I'm thinking about buying is a parallel 4 link with pan hard... Bottom line on this one is, I need to get this thing back up and running ASAP as its my DD, i have ZERO time to sit, stare and think about a system that might work.... I need something that's already been designed.. bolt / weld and go so to speak.... I would swap out their shocks for resy kings though, buy some balaistc fab arms / steering parts and pitman arm and brake lines from ORU

I'm still up in the air on this kit vs fabbing my own stuff.... I just don't have the time .. REALLY... Been working 12-14 hour days 6-7 days a week now, so time is a HUGE priority for me right now...

If I buy this kit I'm looking at one weekend worth of work to get back on the road...

I don't know.... Either way, I'm buying parts tomorrow, I need to get this thing rolling...

Since this is just going to be a mild trail runner and daily driver a radius arm setup is not a bad option. It will give you good all around performance and will be pretty easy for you to fab and setup. You could make it even easier copying the ford radius arm or the aftermarket tj type radius arm (rubicon express) and just buying the majority of the parts from one of those companies. (james duff or cage off road for ford type or rubicon express for jeep type)

guidolyons · 06-17-2009, 09:55 AM

What "kit" are you looking at? You know you can build something better, cheaper, and stronger...you got the skilz

I understand the time issue though.

If you got an extra $7,200 laying around

The short arm kit is still $3,000 yikes

Rock Krawler is very proud to release its first solid-axle swap kit for the '00-'06 Chevy 2500/3500 trucks. The system provides around 9 inches of lift with the help of coilover racing shocks. The system is designed to work with an '03-and-up Dodge Ram axle, but brackets are available to make any driver-side pumpkin axle work with the kit. Heavy-duty steering kits are also available to complement this kit while giving minimal bumpsteer. Rear coilover kits are available as well, or you can stick with a conventional rear leaf setup.

Information: Rock Krawler, 518.270.9822, www.rockkrawler.com

06-16-2009, 09:39 PM	#1
Chopperman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2634 Location: Rocklin, Ca Posts: 3,511	Throwin a 60 under my D-MAX OK, so maybe this could go in chit chat, tow rigs, or other, but I think it fits here OK.. mmmkayyy You and I know that after the first real dent / flop, you'll see this beast camped at buck lol.. trying to avoid any real CARNAGE, but WTF... if you wheel it, it will come Diagnosis - after two years of "light" wheeling, mild trails, snow and fire roads my IFS finally took a major DUMP.... I tagged a rock while doing some whooops at moonrocks, then got high centered on a rock, and then it just went down hill from there, shredded the lift kit, snapped a tie rod end, destroyed the rear Dline and tranny mount blah blah vlah IFS BLOWS Solution - Do what chevy should have done in the first place - steel rear drive shaft - HP kingpin (79 ford ) 60 - King RESY coilovers - hysteer - 4 link front - 4.10 gearing - ARB front - beadlocked 37's I just order my PLATES "NOMOIFS"LOL Here are a few initial PICS until the parts start rolling in... No real fab pics as I haven't broken out the hypertherm yet Attached Images __________________ <><

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06-16-2009, 11:44 PM	#10
Blue-Beard Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6892 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,276	Should be a sweet project. Any particular reason you are thinking 4 link instead of 3 link plus a panhard? Just seems as a daily driver having the panhard would be better because of the reduction of bumpsteer. __________________ Yarr! I've been to the Hammers... There in the tool section at Home Depot. Rally for The Hammers post #141 Rally for Tellico post #100 Last edited by Blue-Beard; 06-16-2009 at 11:44 PM.

06-16-2009, 09:59 PM	#5
LowDown Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 129493 Location: Severn, MD Posts: 142	don't you need the axle level relative to the truck, not the ground?

06-17-2009, 12:40 AM	#13
bigbaggedbeast stock sucks Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 78847 Location: BC canada Posts: 129	we both know once you get that shit in your hands all your gonna see is it's limitations and what you should do i hear the time crunch part thou ... http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...t-p-16803.html that kit minus the upper frame brackets, the upper shock mounts are just 2 hoops w tabs, lowers are tab's on the axle so you have to make the upper frame mounts and tie the hoops together and you know that shit will take a pounding. just trying to play devils advocate for ya .. good luck looking forward to see what you come up with

06-17-2009, 01:00 AM	#15
bigbaggedbeast stock sucks Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 78847 Location: BC canada Posts: 129	lol of course you did tell dave he needs to prototype this swap so he can sell lots of them and you will be kind enough to let him use your truck for it ... im out the am is coming to fast have good one man

06-17-2009, 05:38 AM	#19
chevyforlife502 Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2008 Member # 123509 Location: Windsor, Canada Posts: 492 Blog Entries: 1	Its going to be sick when shes all said and done __________________ 1979 Chevy K10 4x4 soon to be 4inch lift with DANA 60 14FF, 205

06-17-2009, 06:11 AM	#20
confederate muscle Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 42023 Posts: 269	Be carefull with ordering that steering from ORU....a few weeks ago, my swap that would only took two days took three weeks due to the steering arms being on back order and no one telling me about it when i placed my order. Ended up playing phone tag and finally got things lined out. good look....youll love it, just wish i had went DMAX __________________ 2007.5 2500HD "Six O" Pain in my ass. 1994 K2500 "From the ground up"

06-17-2009, 07:57 AM	#21
Azzy2000 5FDPFTMFW Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11869 Location: Diamond Offshore Boneyard West Cameron Posts: 3,429	That Ford blue 60 looks good under the chebby I would just buy the material and fab your own mounts/links. We all know you can do it and do it right, judging from your other builds. Looking forward to a non bolt-on update

06-17-2009, 08:40 AM	#22
mobil1syn Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9795 Location: riverside, ca Posts: 6,229	drop $9k and pick it up when its done http://www.blitzkriegoffroad.com/pro...SOLID_AXLE_KIT __________________ We are all born Arminians. It is grace that turns us into Calvinists -George Whitefield FOR SALE - aqualu crossover steering arm

06-17-2009, 08:47 AM	#23
Ten_Bucks Wears a tinfoil hat Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7011 Location: Pollock Pines, California Posts: 768	Looks like this is gonna be a cool rig when its all done. Will you be retaining the front ABS or getting rid of it completely? Scott __________________ http://facebook.com/tenbucks76

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