I have to be crazy

[WertyzMom]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

I know 3.slows are notorious for headgaskets going out, but is there anything else that should be noted on them? Should I just get set on swapping out the engine with something else? BTW Damn Craigslist.

After the HG gets done... like RIGHT AFTER... the bottom end will start going.

[PONY_DRIVER]

Originally Posted by WertyzMom

After the HG gets done... like RIGHT AFTER... the bottom end will start going.

ACK! Fawk that. Thanks, you've cured me of the ailment.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

A runner with a MB diesel would be a low-rent (compared to a TDI or 2.8 TGV) and low-tech alternative..........

[PONY_DRIVER]

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

A runner with a MB diesel would be a low-rent (compared to a TDI or 2.8 TGV) and low-tech alternative..........

How many mpg? I forgot how much the runner weighed. My pickup is only 5k and with a 4.6 I still get mo bettah (or close tot it) gas mileage than a gas 4runner.

[WertyzMom]

It's not just you... We just sold our last Toyota (my 85 4runner ) in July... in August we gathered EVERY Toyota related part (filled a 12x24 area in the storage ) and sold all that! :whew:



... and yesterday a 'friend' called and told us about a primo 92 4runner with a gimp engine... Tim drove over - looked it over - got told it's 1500 - or best offer... AGH!!! ... and took pics so he could 'show me'

I immediately logged on and looked in the engines and trannys for sale section on here!

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

How many mpg? I forgot how much the runner weighed. My pickup is only 5k and with a 4.6 I still get mo bettah (or close tot it) gas mileage than a gas 4runner.

Keep a sane tire size on it and I would bet you could hit 25.

[PONY_DRIVER]

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

Keep a sane tire size on it and I would bet you could hit 25.

Seriously it would be a DD beater, not a crawler, so 31's maybe 33's if I got crazy. Too bad there isn't a company that offeres adapters for 240/300ds to yota 5 speeds.

A non computer controlled MBZ with a manual 5 speed might be the ticket. Of course it will still sound like a wound up tractor.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

Seriously it would be a DD beater, not a crawler, so 31's maybe 33's if I got crazy. Too bad there isn't a company that offeres adapters for 240/300ds to yota 5 speeds.

A non computer controlled MBZ with a manual 5 speed might be the ticket. Of course it will still sound like a wound up tractor.

Well......

OM617 into 4runner:
http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?p=74969

OM617 swapping parts:
http://4x4labs.com/productspecs/dieselFAQ.html

MB vs Toyota diesel discussion:
http://www.toyotadiesel.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1621

OM617 into Tacoma:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...ck-5speed.html

Acme adapters will help you put a VW watercooled (including NA, TD and TDI) against a Samurai or Toyota trans:
http://www.acmeadapters.com/index.php

OM617 into YJ Jeep:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/3...49/index3.html

Various OM615/616/617 into Jeep photos:
http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/pp276/ulendo/

[PONY_DRIVER]

I read a couple of those already. I'd still be left to my own devices for the motor mounts from what I've seen. Oh yeah, someone mentioned the engines being hard to balance with flywheels since they came with autos and the TC used to take care of whatever imbalance was there. I dunno, just read it on the net.

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

I read a couple of those already. I'd still be left to my own devices for the motor mounts from what I've seen. Oh yeah, someone mentioned the engines being hard to balance with flywheels since they came with autos and the TC used to take care of whatever imbalance was there. I dunno, just read it on the net.

The balance guff was just that. Guff.

Not hard to do at all. For your best bet, though, run the MB automatic that comes with the engine, and the OTT divorced-yota case setup. Presto!

[PONY_DRIVER]

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

The balance guff was just that. Guff.

Not hard to do at all. For your best bet, though, run the MB automatic that comes with the engine, and the OTT divorced-yota case setup. Presto!

That's probably the best bet, but I WANT a 5 speed. It's why I bought the other beater, but my wife's all but laid claim to it. I occasionally get to drive it.

[fullygruntled]

Why haven't you bought one of my 4Runners yet?

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

That's probably the best bet, but I WANT a 5 speed. It's why I bought the other beater, but my wife's all but laid claim to it. I occasionally get to drive it.

And thus I posit:

Whilst whistling along at the speed limit.
Fine German Oel-Motor lightly going clacketa-clacketa-clacketa.
Modest 31 inch all-terrain radials generating a mild hum.
Local classical station playing at a reasonable volume.

All that 5-speed/automatic controversy will just melt away.

[Never Monday]

isn't Ms. Muddin going to pull a 4 cyl MBZ oil burner shortly?

[rustywagoneersdotcom]

Originally Posted by Never Monday

isn't Ms. Muddin going to pull a 4 cyl MBZ oil burner shortly?

It's brokened. And won't run.

[basketcasejeep]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

6bt runner would be totally nuts. I don't have the fab skills fo dat. I can cut, grind, and bolt. That's about it. I've heard of a 3bt runner and found a thread here that I need to read through. I was shocked at the prices of the half cuts. Crazy. Hmmm, Jetta TDI....

I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but it certainly made me drool... It looks like it would require some fab skills.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=760359

Edit: rustywagoneersdotcom, I'm really liking your current avatar.

[Muddin]

Originally Posted by Never Monday

isn't Ms. Muddin going to pull a 4 cyl MBZ oil burner shortly?

Yeah but it needs to be rebuilt.

[PONY_DRIVER]

Originally Posted by fullygruntled

Why haven't you bought one of my 4Runners yet?

Because you want a brazillion dollars and it's not local. Do you have a gently used 300d for cheap?

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

And thus I posit:

Whilst whistling along at the speed limit.
Fine German Oel-Motor lightly going clacketa-clacketa-clacketa.
Modest 31 inch all-terrain radials generating a mild hum.
Local classical station playing at a reasonable volume.

All that 5-speed/automatic controversy will just melt away.

Actually while not sleeping last night I posited this very post and you know what, I agree. I want to go with the simplest plan. If I can run a yota auto trans behind the MBZ diesel and keep the transfer case and everything else stock I'd be happy.The closer to bolt in the better. I wonder what the mileage difference is between auto and manual in such an application?

Originally Posted by Never Monday

isn't Ms. Muddin going to pull a 4 cyl MBZ oil burner shortly?

Originally Posted by rustywagoneersdotcom

It's brokened. And won't run.

That

Originally Posted by basketcasejeep

I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but it certainly made me drool... It looks like it would require some fab skills.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=760359

That's sick, but WAY out of what I'm looking to do. I want cheap & reliable, preferably simple operation. Nothing trick, nothing fancy. Just a diesel powered, but otherwise mostly stock runner.

Originally Posted by Muddin

Yeah but it needs to be rebuilt.

Well get on it!

[misfitcj]

get a motorcycle....i got a garage

[Muddin]

Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER

B
Well get on it!

[your father]You think money grows on trees around here?![/your father]

I'm real poor, not poor when it's convenient.

[fullygruntled]

Originally Posted by Muddin

[your father]You think money grows on trees around here?![/your father]

I'm real poor, not poor when it's convenient.

I'm confused at how married people with two jobs and no kids can be poor. Confused enough to use the emoticon.

[Muddin]

Originally Posted by fullygruntled

I'm confused at how married people with two jobs and no kids can be poor. Confused enough to use the emoticon.

I'm paying for as much college as possible while attending.

[basketcasejeep]

Do the mercedes autos have a lockup torque converter? If you're still thinking 4bt, look at www.4btswaps.com

[PONY_DRIVER]

Originally Posted by misfitcj

get a motorcycle....i got a garage

Are you wrenching this week? I may make it out this time.

Originally Posted by fullygruntled

I'm confused at how married people with two jobs and no kids can be poor. Confused enough to use the emoticon.

Easily, well wait you said "no kids". NVM.

Originally Posted by basketcasejeep

Do the mercedes autos have a lockup torque converter? If you're still thinking 4bt, look at www.4btswaps.com

I don't know, but I'm off to read. I just found out that the runner I was looking at has title issues and can't be sold right now. Oh well, I didn't need a project right now anyway.

[PONY_DRIVER]

Nuther question


All of the MBZ's I find in this half of the state are a grand plus. How much could one expect for parting one out sans engine and trans? Is it worth much as scrap?